Obama seeks cuts and higher taxes

[lurkingdirk]

Moving to another country doesn't help. US citizens are obligated to still report/pay taxes even if they didn't earn a dime of US income in a tax year.

Yea, we aren't taxed on the first $92k of our worldwide income for 2011 but we still have to file and someone over at the IRS still has to do the processing.

Think of how much money the US could save if they'd be reasonable like other countries that only care about those that actually work on the country's own soil.

Damn. I had no idea. That blows donkey balls.

Time to drop your citizenship.

 

[Ike Stain]

Not taking sides here but:

It's the typical tax and spend plan by morons who should not be in power.

As opposed to borrow and spend like Bush II who pushed the economy to collapse?

I know those "evil" wealthy people. Why would you want to be wealthy when people just seek ways to penalize you for succeeding?

Maybe they should have other values than simply wanting to be wealthy. If they're taxes were raised substantially, they'd still be wealthy.

 

[Will E Worm]

I'm with Will on this one.
Its just bullshit.
the gov has a very precise plan to put almost everybody in the poorhouse one day and dependent on it ........save a few mega billionares.
don't matter if the prez is an elephant or a jack ass.

Finally some reason. :hatsoff:

Moving to another country doesn't help. US citizens are obligated to still report/pay taxes even if they didn't earn a dime of US income in a tax year.

You live in another country. You should not be paying any taxes to America.

Find someone to help you stop paying. Also, send your SS card back to America and tell them you live in another country and owe them nothing.

I think spending cuts are definitely in order. However, the first thing that should be cut is the Bush tax cuts. That revenue is needed and I don't believe it is crippling. I don't remember seeing any metrics showing that it actually stimulated the economy.

No. :tongue:

 

[pete rose]

Thanks for the intelligent retort to that fact.

 

[Will E Worm]

Not taking sides here but

You just did take sides. :tongue:

As opposed to borrow and spend like Bush II who pushed the economy to collapse?

Obama is pushing the economy to a collapse.

Maybe they should have other values than simply wanting to be wealthy. If they're taxes were raised substantially, they'd still be wealthy.

They should keep their money.

You can't push your "values" onto someone else like you're doing here.

Ike: "Maybe they should have other values than simply wanting to be wealthy."

How do you know they don't? It is their money and no one has the right to take it.

Again, that is you pushing you "agenda" and "values" on someone else.

 

[lurkingdirk]

You just did take sides. :tongue:

No he didn't. He merely questioned something you said. He's right, by the way.


See? I can make declarations, too.

 

[meesterperfect]

it always amazes me just how many people seem to love the tax tax tax mentality even though its their money and they know 90% of it is just wasted.
but then again i guess for many its not their money so fuck it, tax everybody.
in years past their would have been a revolution, but todays humans are just so used to it its no big deal, practically masochistic.
so hell with it, let THE GOV take have the working mans money.
let them screw up the economy with it.
no big deal if the guy who works 10 hours a day, 6 days a week is in the same finacial status as the welfare family next door who sleep till 11 and watch tv all day.
Its only fair I suppose.

I honestly think a lot of people here never really had a job and saw how the federal and state GOVS take HALF their money before they even see it, then demand more with penalty of imprisonment in april.

 

[Will E Worm]

No he didn't. He merely questioned something you said. He's right, by the way.


See? I can make declarations, too.

Yes he did, just like you did. You cannot make declarations. :tongue:

it always amazes me just how many people seem to love the tax tax tax mentality even though its their money and they know 90% of it is just wasted.
but then again i guess for many its not their money so fuck it, tax everybody.
in years past their would have been a revolution, but todays humans are just so used to it its no big deal, practically masochistic.
so hell with it, let THE GOV take have the working mans money.
let them screw up the economy with it.
no big deal if the guy who works 10 hours a day, 6 days a week is in the same finacial status as the welfare family next door who sleep till 11 and watch tv all day.
Its only fair I suppose.

I honestly think a lot of people here never really had a job and saw how the federal and state GOVS take HALF their money before they even see it, then demand more with penalty of imprisonment in april.

Most people are not people. They go alone with anything they are told, like good farm animals.

Most of the money that is collected is misused or goes into people pockets.

"A nation or world of people, who will not use their intelligence, are no better than animals that have no intelligence; such people are beasts of burden and steaks upon the table by choice and consent." "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper

A day before 9/11- $2.3 trillions lost by the Pentagon

 

[lurkingdirk]

Yes he did, just like you did. You cannot make declarations. :tongue:

No, you are fundamentally incorrect here. Putting a :tongue: after it doesn't excuse it.

He asked you to clarify something. That's not taking sides, that's asking for clarification. You made quite a bold statement, and you weren't clear. Either be willing to engage people in discussion or stop making this kind of thread.

Also, you make declarations nearly every time you post. As soon as you stop doing so, so will I.

By the way, what "socialists programs" have been introduced?

 

[Will E Worm]

No, you are fundamentally incorrect here. Putting a :tongue: after it doesn't excuse it.

:1orglaugh:tongue:

:hatsoff:

 

[lurkingdirk]

:1orglaugh:tongue:

:hatsoff:

Best argument you've ever made.

I'll leave this thread now, as you have clearly proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that you want to make untrue statements, not prove them, not respond to arguments and questions, nor take the time to make yourself credible in any way.

 

[Will E Worm]

Best argument you've ever made.

I'll leave this thread now, as you have clearly proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that you want to make untrue statements, not prove them, not respond to arguments and questions, nor take the time to make yourself credible in any way.

It's about time you agree to disagree. Also, that you now know I state the credible truth you can't handle. :hatsoff:

"A nation or world of people, who will not use their intelligence, are no better than animals that have no intelligence; such people are beasts of burden and steaks upon the table by choice and consent." "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper

 

[lurkingdirk]

It's about time you agree to disagree. Also, that you now know I state the credible truth you can't handle. :hatsoff:

"A nation or world of people, who will not use their intelligence, are no better than animals that have no intelligence; such people are beasts of burden and steaks upon the table by choice and consent." "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper

For the record, I am not agreeing to disagree. Thanks for trying to get the last jab in with that, but you're wrong yet again. How can you live with yourself being wrong so often?

I will not ever agree to disagree with you on this point because you are provably wrong and you haven't responded to the questions. How is it, exactly, that you think you have any perspective other than the one you have concocted by reading people with whom you agree?

Okay, bye now. I just checked back once because I knew you would do that. But to be clear: I'm not agreeing to disagree. I'm saying you are entirely incorrect. Answer some questions, and perhaps you'll be worth talking to. Continue making threads like this, and it's just pathetic behaviour.

 

[Will E Worm]

I am not "provably" wrong and I have responded to the questions.

You just do not like the truth and you will never accept the truth.

I'll leave this thread now.

:hatsoff:

 

[pete rose]

:1orglaugh:tongue:

:hatsoff:

thanks for the update, baby-Fox.

we can all learn from will e worm that when you're backed into a corner, post an emoticon as many times as possible to alleviate the pressure.

 

[Will E Worm]

thanks for the update, baby-Fox.

we can all learn from will e worm that when you're backed into a corner, post an emoticon as many times as possible to alleviate the pressure.

What have you contributed to this thread?

I am glad you see I tell the truth. :hatsoff:

I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. :clap:

 

[pete rose]

What have you contributed to this thread?

Dude, you MADE this thread and haven't contributed anything.

 

[xfire]

I'm still waiting for a list of those "socialist programs".

 

[CunningStunts]

I'm still waiting for a list of those "socialist programs".

Most of them? :dunno:

The problem with Obama's rhetoric is that taxing the top 2% isn't going to fix the problem. His plan calls for like $4 trillion in cuts over the next 12 years... he's run up that much in 2 1/2 years alone.

Kicking this can down the road while spending money like a drunk 21 year old boy in a strip club is going to ruin us all. :2 cents:

 

[TheOrangeCat]

It's about time you agree to disagree. Also, that you now know I state the credible truth you can't handle. :hatsoff:

"A nation or world of people, who will not use their intelligence, are no better than animals that have no intelligence; such people are beasts of burden and steaks upon the table by choice and consent." "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper

Nice quote. I always find that proving and/or supporting the validity of my arguments is greatly enhanced by using quotes from a discredited conspiracy nut, fraudster, armed felon and wannabe cop killer.

It's nearly as convincing as Bible quotes. Or YouTube videos.