Obama Picks Biden for VP

Just going by my 20 years of being able to comprehend political assrapery from a basic level to my more 'informed' later years..

Experience = Corruption.

People that want to help other people = Assassinated. (Gandhi, JFK, MLK, etc)

The best thing we need is a fresh take on the job and Biden is an excellent, experienced *advisor* to senator Obama. And let's face it.. there is no alternative to Obama, McCain is just another Bush and his favored choice is Mitt friggin' Romney! He's spent more time piddlefarting over gay marriage and rallying around increased military spending than doing much good. But that's just my opinion. ::shrug::


McCain is hardly another Bush- that's just been a nice bumper sticker slogan for this election.

Neither of these guys is the answer for America. We have the choice of either things staying mostly the same (McCain), or outright socialism (Obama)...

Hmmmm.... Yay- another suck election.

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Biden seems like a good choice.

Obama, solution to all the problems???? Not really. Marriage is always between a man and a woman and it is defined as such in the Bible. Why legalize something which is not really a marriage????

I guess you must have missed this, and it's not the first time he's stated as much

(from last week's saddleback college broadcast)

WARREN: Define marriage.

OBAMA: I believe that marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Now for me, for me as a Christian, it's also a sacred union. God's in the mix. But...

WARREN: [interrupting] Would you support a constitutional amendment with that definition?

OBAMA: No, I would not.

WARREN: Why not?

OBAMA: Because historically, because historically we have not defined marriage in our consistution. It's been a matter of state law that has been our tradition. Let's break it down. The reason that people think there needs to be a constitutional amendment, some people believe, is because of the concern of same-sex marriage. I am not somebody who promotes same sex marriage, but I do believe in civil unions.

As far as marriage being "defined as such in the Bible", thankfully our republic is secular in nature. We don't have a state sponsored religion, and for very good reason. Obama understands that, and won't allow his personal, religious-based perception of what constitues marriage to interfere with the civil rights of others.
 
Biden is a good pick IMO.Lots of experience and knows how to respond to the pubs when they ****** which as YMIHERE says they will.That has been a problem in last couple of elections for dems,running mates who were not able to respond ********** enough.But then again that was a problem with even the top of the ticket in many cases as well.That was what was really wrong with Kerry/Edwards,they looked like deer in the headlights when the attacks came and the responses were weak.
 
I actually like Biden, at least as a person. I am not too familiar with his policies, he was one of the people that I liked as far as who exhibited themselves in those childish democratic forums prior to the main pick. He seems like a mean som'a-bitch. :1orglaugh
 
A few classic Biden moments:

- "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking." - July 2006

- Barack Obama is a "clean" black person. – February 2007

- One reason that so many District of Columbia schools fail is the city's high minority population. – October 2007 (Now that may be true, but a liberal can't say it.)
 
A few classic Biden moments:

- "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking." - July 2006

- Barack Obama is a "clean" black person. – February 2007

- One reason that so many District of Columbia schools fail is the city's high minority population. – October 2007 (Now that may be true, but a liberal can't say it.)

I fully expect the republicans to bring such things up.I would point out that Biden eitheir apologized or said his statements were not meant the way they sounded but whatever.
Plenty for the dems to talk about and respond to attacks with.
1.John McCain cant remember how many houses he owns.
2. John thinks anyone with under 5 million dollars is middle class.
3. John voted against MLK day.
4. John was implicated in S & L scandle.
5. John is anti-choice.

And we don't even have a running mate to ****** yet.

So let the mud fly!!!:glugglug:
 
Don't know much about Biden.
I do know he is the author of the ******** Against Women Act of 1994, which Clinton ironically signed into law.
Its good except for the restraining order part which is grossly mis-used and ****** , very poorly written.
With this women who want a divorce get to ***** their husbands to leave the home with no evidence of wrong doing.
With this men lose full custody and rights to thier ******** with no evidence of wrong doing or right of defense.
Basically with this women can accuse men of anything they want with no proof or evidence to back it up. Like I said its grossly ****** and un-just.
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I fully expect the republicans to bring such things up.I would point out that Biden eitheir apologized or said his statements were not meant the way they sounded but whatever.
Plenty for the dems to talk about and respond to attacks with.

1.John McCain cant remember how many houses he owns.
2. John thinks anyone with under 5 million dollars is middle class.
3. John voted against MLK day.
4. John was implicated in S & L scandle.
5. John is anti-choice.

And we don't even have a running mate to ****** yet.

So let the mud fly!!!:glugglug:


1. "McCain's houses" His wife is a Real Estate investor/developer, she constantly buys an sells houses/Condos, McCain has been a little busy.
Besides that has absolutely ZERO to do with him being president.

2. "5 million bucks" It's called a JOKE, look it up. Oh Sorry, the democrats can make jokes, but nobody else can.

(MAYBE it is because the Democrats ARE A JOKE!! Yeah that's it! :D )

3. "MLK Day" Oh Well, can't win em all! :confused:
I am MUCH more worried about some of the measures obama has voted for, as well as the number he actually just voted "PRESENT".

4. S&L Scandal.. HHHHMMMM Nothing about a conviction or even CHARGES.
But hey, at least he doesn't have bbqs and receive funds from KNOWN TERRORISTS. Look up Bill Ayers, he is a terrorist and known lowlife and Obama began his run for president in THIS GUY'S house!!!

5. So he doesn't believe in Abortion, it sounds like he actually believes in the sanctity of human life. Obama however voted FOR a measure that would allow Doctors to ****** a baby that survived an abortion attempt!!!

Evil bastard.
He was asked when a ***** actually has human rights, he could answer the damn question.

Abortion should only be allowed in cases of ****, ****** or danger to the ******. These people who use it for birth control because they are too damn lazy (or STUPID) to use a condom or any other of hundreds of methods of
birth control should be prosecuted for ******. It's not like they don't know how it happens.

The more I hear from obama the more I am convinced that he absolutely has no clue what the world is about.

Air up my tires and it will be like gas is cheaper?!?!?!? moron

Tune up my vehicle and gas will be cheaper?!?!? If you can call 2-3% a big gain, go for it!! Most modern vehicles only get a tune up at 100k now ANYWAY.

If this guy has no more sense than he has shown, he is seriously in a mile over his head, and if he and biden get elected, we are in SERIOUS trouble.

I pay plenty of taxes thank you, these two need to stay out of my wallet.
I like ******** at night, I would prefer a MAN be in charge of our defense and not a pathetic pacifist who thinks we can negotiate with terrorists.

I REALLY don't want to see my country go the way of socialism. That is NOT what the founders of this country fought for. That is NOT what my ancestors fought for and that is NOT what the American Military fights for today.

Obama-Biden? That is truly a scary proposition to anyone who really has paid attention to what these two stand for and what they are about.
 
1. "McCain's houses" His wife is a Real Estate investor/developer, she constantly buys an sells houses/Condos, McCain has been a little busy.
Besides that has absolutely ZERO to do with him being president.

2. "5 million bucks" It's called a JOKE, look it up. Oh Sorry, the democrats can make jokes, but nobody else can.

(MAYBE it is because the Democrats ARE A JOKE!! Yeah that's it! :D )

3. "MLK Day" Oh Well, can't win em all! :confused:
I am MUCH more worried about some of the measures obama has voted for, as well as the number he actually just voted "PRESENT".

4. S&L Scandal.. HHHHMMMM Nothing about a conviction or even CHARGES.
But hey, at least he doesn't have bbqs and receive funds from KNOWN TERRORISTS. Look up Bill Ayers, he is a terrorist and known lowlife and Obama began his run for president in THIS GUY'S house!!!

5. So he doesn't believe in Abortion, it sounds like he actually believes in the sanctity of human life. Obama however voted FOR a measure that would allow Doctors to ****** a baby that survived an abortion attempt!!!

Evil bastard.
He was asked when a ***** actually has human rights, he could answer the damn question.

Abortion should only be allowed in cases of ****, ****** or danger to the ******. These people who use it for birth control because they are too damn lazy (or STUPID) to use a condom or any other of hundreds of methods of
birth control should be prosecuted for ******. It's not like they don't know how it happens.

The more I hear from obama the more I am convinced that he absolutely has no clue what the world is about.

Air up my tires and it will be like gas is cheaper?!?!?!? moron

Tune up my vehicle and gas will be cheaper?!?!? If you can call 2-3% a big gain, go for it!! Most modern vehicles only get a tune up at 100k now ANYWAY.

If this guy has no more sense than he has shown, he is seriously in a mile over his head, and if he and biden get elected, we are in SERIOUS trouble.

I pay plenty of taxes thank you, these two need to stay out of my wallet.
I like ******** at night, I would prefer a MAN be in charge of our defense and not a pathetic pacifist who thinks we can negotiate with terrorists.

I REALLY don't want to see my country go the way of socialism. That is NOT what the founders of this country fought for. That is NOT what my ancestors fought for and that is NOT what the American Military fights for today.

Obama-Biden? That is truly a scary proposition to anyone who really has paid attention to what these two stand for and what they are about.

I applaud your post which depicts the reality:hatsoff: (I can't rep you know but I will rep you later for sure).
 
Gotta love it when the conservatives get riled. They use words heard all too often in the last 8 years like..

Evil, Moron, bastard.. and like saying "We are in trouble".

We? No. You. "We" are already in trouble. I want "change". You go ahead and worry about abortion and terrorists, keep believing the spin that those in power want to solve your gasoline prices and that an easy answer is right around the corner.

2-3 %? Ugh.. you probably dont even GET a yearly/bi-yearly tuneup or believe in preventative maintenance if you're dismissing the point immediately.

Let's say Premium Link Upgrade

Let's say you get on average 20 MPG, and drive 20,000 miles per year. That's 1000 gallons times 3.80 = 3,800 dollars.

A tune up can be about 50-100$.

A mis-firing spark plug will **** your miles-per-gallon by more than just 1 or 2. A four cylinder engine.. if one out of four of those goes bad or isnt firing at full efficiency you can lose how much? Yeah. 25% of your total power. One outta four.

An air filter, oil change and all the rest of it can bring 15 MPG up to 20 pretty quickly. Driving a bit more 'intelligently' helps more than just 2 or 3 %, you know how MPG can vary on highways and city streets. But enough of my common sense.. the loss of 3% from 3800$ is only 114 bucks, which.. hey! That covers the cost of a tune up!

I wonder if I never got that tuneup and my MPG fell from 20 to 18, though..

20,000 miles divided by 18 MPG times 3.8$ per gallon = 4,222$ spent on gas. A full 400$ more spent on gas because people dont realize how much gas they're screwing themselves out of by driving too fast, too wild, or too much on city streets. It's never just 2-3% that you get back from a tuneup, and we're not all driving top of the line vehicles. Driving an old piece'o'**** like most of us are, six cylinders or more, hot or cold weather, all that bullshit adds into the picture.

Someone gives you some perfect instructions like GIVE YOUR CAR A TUNEUP, CHECK THE TIRES AND DRIVE BETTER and you're complaining about a nickel's worth of free advice? Bah. Keep driving, keep paying. Americans used to be able to solve their own problems instead of calling somebody with common sense a moron.

You have the ABILITY to use less gas yourself.. why ask congress to keep footing YOUR bill?
 
Gotta love it when the conservatives get riled. They use words heard all too often in the last 8 years like..

Evil, Moron, bastard.. and like saying "We are in trouble".

We? No. You. "We" are already in trouble. I want "change". You go ahead and worry about abortion and terrorists, keep believing the spin that those in power want to solve your gasoline prices and that an easy answer is right around the corner.

2-3 %? Ugh.. you probably dont even GET a yearly/bi-yearly tuneup or believe in preventative maintenance if you're dismissing the point immediately.

Let's say Premium Link Upgrade

Let's say you get on average 20 MPG, and drive 20,000 miles per year. That's 1000 gallons times 3.80 = 3,800 dollars.

A tune up can be about 50-100$.

A mis-firing spark plug will **** your miles-per-gallon by more than just 1 or 2. A four cylinder engine.. if one out of four of those goes bad or isnt firing at full efficiency you can lose how much? Yeah. 25% of your total power. One outta four.

An air filter, oil change and all the rest of it can bring 15 MPG up to 20 pretty quickly. Driving a bit more 'intelligently' helps more than just 2 or 3 %, you know how MPG can vary on highways and city streets. But enough of my common sense.. the loss of 3% from 3800$ is only 114 bucks, which.. hey! That covers the cost of a tune up!

I wonder if I never got that tuneup and my MPG fell from 20 to 18, though..

20,000 miles divided by 18 MPG times 3.8$ per gallon = 4,222$ spent on gas. A full 400$ more spent on gas because people dont realize how much gas they're screwing themselves out of by driving too fast, too wild, or too much on city streets. It's never just 2-3% that you get back from a tuneup, and we're not all driving top of the line vehicles. Driving an old piece'o'**** like most of us are, six cylinders or more, hot or cold weather, all that bullshit adds into the picture.

Someone gives you some perfect instructions like GIVE YOUR CAR A TUNEUP, CHECK THE TIRES AND DRIVE BETTER and you're complaining about a nickel's worth of free advice? Bah. Keep driving, keep paying. Americans used to be able to solve their own problems instead of calling somebody with common sense a moron.

You have the ABILITY to use less gas yourself.. why ask congress to keep footing YOUR bill?

There you go again making assumptions about me when you don't know **** about me.

When you don't have a real argument, ****** right?

I have been tinkering with cars and working on them longer than you have been alive.

Supporting ******* babies that have survived an abortion IS EVIL. Making statements like airing up your tires (and the comments about adding slightly MORE pressure) and it will be like gas prices never changed IS moronic.

When you over inflate a tire, ESPECIALLY in hot weather you risk catastrophic tire failure. Tire pressures printed on a tire are HOT pressure, so that you DON'T over inflate them. The other part of that equation is that you wear the tires faster if they are overinflated, which causes you to have to REPLACE THEM. Each tire you see on the average vehicle requires 7-9 quarts of oil to produce, SO you overinflate your tires, you actually USE MORE FRIGGIN OIL.

Tune ups. Most modern vehicles use PLATINUM Plugs, and at 60 thousand miles on my truck, there is no reason TO put plugs in at this point, FOLLOWING THE FACTORY RECOMMENDATIONS, the truck is not due plug replacement for 40 thousand more miles.

As for MY vehicles, whether my TRUCK or my Hot Rod, they get maintainence religiously. I use a synthetic blend oil in my vehicles for better efficiency, changed every 3500 miles. I keep the tires rotated and balanced and inflated to PROPER pressures the way they SHOULD be.

I also use High flow EFFICIENT Air filters and oil filters in my vehicles.

The fact of the matter is this, I know what I am talking about and have the experience to back it up.

If you are driving an older car and you fail to keep it maintained that is your fault, but the steps he was talking about are stupid, his statements about the amount of difference this would make are ridiculous. He said it would be like dropping the gas prices. In a perfect world it might make a couple percent difference.

Some people say they can't afford to keep their vehicle maintained, well they still can't just the chosen one says they should!

Driving too much on city streets??? Well exactly how do you recommend people get to work? Sorry but the world doesn't bend to meet you.

And NO we DON'T ALL have access to PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. Some of us DON'T live in a city.

There have been countless statements by obama that makes me believe he is an idiot and a moron and he is TROUBLE. NOBODY that actually supports this guy can EVER accuse Bush of being stupid again, if this guy isn't in front of a cue card or teleprompter, he can't form a coherent thought!

He recently had a 40 minute press conference, nearly 1/4 of that time (over EIGHT MINUTES) consisted of "Uh, Uh, uh, uh, um, um".

And the government doesn't pay ANY damn bills for me. I work my ass off to have what I have and one of the biggest problems I see in my work is so many people of the current generation that have NO work ethic, and whine about anything they have to do and want everything handed to them.

People who work hard ( I have TWO jobs and work well over 50 hours a week) foot the bill for them.

Now you have the chosen one that has said he is gonna kick up taxes and repeal tax cuts. HE"S AN IDIOT. There has NEVER EVER been a country that has taxed itself to prosperity. There was just a big boost to the economy when people got their Tax Rebate checks. Yet these people are too stupid to see this. He is gonna raise taxes, but he wants to make the oil companies give us a check as a "windfall Profits tax". He's an idiot, that is stupid and makes no sense.

It is also a PIPE DREAM, he has NO authority to take ANY money form a private company. If he does find some way to do that, all it will do is RAISE prices, because you are gonna pay that right back with higher gas prices, along with higher prices on EVERYTHING ELSE.

DAMN you would think people would have learned something this summer, but I guess people are just burying their head in the sand and believing everything the chosen one says.

I've said it before and I will say it again, this country needs a damn civics class.

I wish there was some way to stop the liberal indoctrination going on in the public school system. They are turning out a bunch of people who have no CLUE what the world is really like.
 
I wish there was some way to stop the liberal indoctrination going on in the public school system. They are turning out a bunch of people who have no CLUE what the world is really like.

Hmmm. Let's explore this little nugget a bit in the context of "the compassionate conservative" Dubyadumbass.

--1. DubyaDumbass-"I looked in the soul of Putin and I trust him"...OOPS.

--2. DubyaDumbass-"We have to support General Musharref"...OOOPS.

--3. DubyaDumbass-"Saddam has WMD and if we don't get him, they'll be a mushroom cloud in Manhattan"....OOOPS.

--4. ShitardCheney-"We'll be greeted as Liberators and Iraqi oil will pay for the war"...OOOPS

--5. DubyaDumbass-"I'm giving up golf to show my support for the troops." OOPS.

--6. DubyaDumbass-the day after Katrina stuck New Orleans "People, I have complete confidence in Mike Brown, head of FEMA" (a nincompoop ***** Marketer handed a critical gov't job in payment for "election favors")...OOPS

--7. DubyaDumbass--"We won't leave Iraq unless we're asked to. Timetables are nothing more than admission of failure" President al-Maliki, "It's time for the U.S. to leave Iraq. What's the timetable?" OOOPS!

--8. DubyaDumbass as pres of Texas Rangers--"I don't think Sammy Sosa will ever amount to much. Let's trade him." OOPS.

--9. DubyaDumbass--"What do you mean gas is at $4 a gallon?" OOPS!

These are the ones that come to mind. Since Dubya was a product of private schools and got gravy-trained into Yale...maybe public schooling is actually better than private schooling?

A good president or a bad president basically comes down to core intelligence. President Dubya is a failed businessman, college dumbass who did nothing substantial in his life except gravytrain off of his ******, G.H.W. Bush.

President Obama, on the otherhand, while also a product of private schools, atleast graduated with distinction from Harvard Law, Law Review president and went on to teach law at the U of Chicago, on of the best schools in the world. Hmmm. It seems like there's a pretty good chance President Obama knows the ways of the world....:dunno:

I think Biden is a good, safe pick for VP for Obama. He doesn't fit the "change" mode at all but so many "critics" and idiot Americans think Obama "has to have experience"...that this pick should shut them up. I hope anyways..
 
There you go again making assumptions about me when you don't know **** about me.

When you don't have a real argument, ****** right?
I've said it before and I will say it again, this country needs a damn civics class.

I wish there was some way to stop the liberal indoctrination going on in the public school system. They are turning out a bunch of people who have no CLUE what the world is really like.

You're right, I dont know **** about you. You've been here three years and posted 69 times. Of course I have to make assumptions, and all the moreso now that if you: "have been tinkering with cars and working on them longer than you have been alive." and scoff at that advice. I assume once again that you've actually driven around.. noticed other people.. driving badly, driving old piece of **** cars oftentimes. Many states dont have mandatory vehicle maintenance, but just mentioning that subject tends to drive people up a wall. They'll call the mandatory part another way to get money out of us.

When I dont have a real argument? It's a DEBATE. People ******. That's a question born from rhetoric.

He recently had a 40 minute press conference, nearly 1/4 of that time (over EIGHT MINUTES) consisted of "Uh, Uh, uh, uh, um, um".
It's called quick thinking. You find your answer, then you say it in a way that cant be twisted or misconstrued by the other guy.

Comparing Bush to Obama as far as speaking? Bush speaks without thinking, Obama thinks before speaking. I'd rather be prepared by saying um, uh.. a couple times instead of Premium Link Upgrade Are you seriously bashing somebody and comparing them to Bush because they actually give an answer some thought? lmao

Liberal indoctrination? Honestly, there is no need to respond to you. Enjoy your hot rod and truck, be as conservative as you want. Good day, sir.
 
If he'd have picked Hilary as his VP, I might have considered voting for him as would lots and lots of other americans. But with this move...he all but seals his fate as a fuckin loser!
 
Man, you don't have to ASSUME ANYTHING, you could find out BEFORE you make statements.

I don't know what this obsession is with how long I have been registered vs. my number of posts, what is the difference?

I did not "scoff" at the advice, but the fact is that it is not the miracle that obama wants everyone to believe, and definitely not something that is going to help people in the real world cope with getting back and forth to their jobs, school ...etc on a daily basis and you have a group, 95% democrats standing in the way of oil companies being able to actually start the process of alleviating the problem. They are using a very real problem for the common working man as a political football.

That whole group is so hung up on their own agenda that they could care less about the people who are really affected by 3.50-4 buck a gallon of gas.

The fact is that a truly VIABLE solution is still a LONG way off, and something needs to be done now.

Oil prices started falling THE DAY Bush said he would NOT stand in the way of new oil exploration. THAT SAME DAY. Do you really think that with the stroke of a pen, and the democrats getting out of the way that it WOULDN'T FALL faster?

No wonder the demo controlled congress, and Nancy pelosi's approval rating is somewhere around 8%. They were gonna do all of this great stuff as soon as they got into power. What a crock. And obama/biden will simply tow that party line.
 
Oil prices falling had little to do with Bush's offshore speech.

Offshore oil in these areas will take many years to come out of the ocean. And commodity prices are decided by factors now or in maybe a few months, but never years and years away.
Oil prices came down primarily because the world economic slow down has greatly curtailed demand.
 
Reagan helped your country to be at the highest level in terms of economics, military and as well as in science
Sorry georges but economics? You mean Reaganomics? His 'trickle down economics' have been proven time and again to not work. And he was a fiscal mess as he ran record budget deficits. Economically Reagan was a joke. Any idiot can spend more money then he has and get someone else to pay for it.
 
The oil prices started falling AFTER the speech was made, Literally. RIGHT after.
The oil will not take as long as many have said it will, technology has come a LONG way over the past few years.

The "curtailed" driving has definitely had an effect, but not near that much. The roads are still just as crowded.

And Commodity prices are affected by near future as well as years down the road by speculators.

EVERYTHING has an affect on the prices and years down the road is included, they counted on the availability staying limited (which is a crock anyway) for a long time to come.
It was actually affected MORE by Asian countries stopping their subsidizing of oil/gas than the amount we have slowed our use.
 
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