My Theory On Tipping...

[titsrock]

You're at the top of pyramid, though CHEF...the job of CHEF carries much more prestige and "cultural power" with it than waitress/waiter. The economics that you lay out seem more aligned for you to dawn your Marxist beret and cause a revolution in the streets...but, the CHEF and Staff are sequestered in the back. Hidden away like Frankenstein's creatures...the waiter is Igor..

I tip 20% if the food/service are normal/exceptional. I tip 25% if the waitress has big tits and is hot. I tip 15% if the food is shit or the waiter is a prick. I read Nickel & Dimed a couple of years ago. I make sure I'm a good tipper today. I leave it to the Restaurant Owner to pay fair wages for the Chef and Food staff. There's nothing I can do there for ya tough guy...

 

[bigbadbrody]

hey chef, have you ever heard of the search function? I already started a thread on this exact subject in 2006

i'll let it slip this one time...

http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=103972&highlight=gratuity

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

I'm not sure if waiters/waitresses in Canada make so little, or if it's minimum wage + tips (I think it's the later). But yeah, I would have killed for $200 dollars a day.

My system for tipping... Well, I don't have one. I usually just tip twenty dollars irregardless of meal or service done.

 

[CADDYMAN]

Good waitresses/waiters, bartenders,servers deserve a good tip as long as they are doing what they are supposed to be doing.

Having done all of the above....cept the waitress job I always made more tips bartending than anyone else in the place and have actually been lied upon and fired.....and rehired after the serivce went to shit

The tipping system works well as long as you do a good job.....if you dont you are broke

 

[ChefChiTown]

You're at the top of pyramid, though CHEF...the job of CHEF carries much more prestige and "cultural power" with it than waitress/waiter. The economics that you lay out seem more aligned for you to dawn your Marxist beret and cause a revolution in the streets...but, the CHEF and Staff are sequestered in the back. Hidden away like Frankenstein's creatures...the waiter is Igor..

I tip 20% if the food/service are normal/exceptional. I tip 25% if the waitress has big tits and is hot. I tip 15% if the food is shit or the waiter is a prick. I read Nickel & Dimed a couple of years ago. I make sure I'm a good tipper today. I leave it to the Restaurant Owner to pay fair wages for the Chef and Food staff. There's nothing I can do there for ya tough guy...

I'm not sure if you're trying to insult me or anything, so I'm sorry if I'm just taking this the wrong way, but...

How is being a chef "presitigious" in any way? You apparently watch too much Food Network. What, exactly, is so "prestigious" about my job? Is it...

- the 80+ hour work weeks?
- the fact that I work 16+ hour days in a kitchen that measures about 120-130 degrees air temperature on a constant basis?
- the fact that I am so busy at work that I don't have time to take a break at all?
- the fact that after culinary school, I had to work for free (yes, for FREE) for over a year, just so I could prove myself as being worthy to the title "chef"
- the fact that I get to stand over 500 degree ovens, 425 degree grills, 375 degree oil and a 350 degree flat top?
- the fact that I have burns all over my hands and arms from earning my "battle scars" while I busted my ass to do what I am able to do now? (I was recently burned so badly that I've missed about two weeks of work)
- the fact that I've seen people cut off tips of their fingers and severely wound themselves with sharp knives and tools, just so complete strangers can eat a meal?
- the fact that the waiters and waitresses get thanked all the time by customers for the great meal they just had, when it was me who made it for them?
- the fact that I get to come home, smelling like crap everyday?

Or, is it the $300/week I make while doing all of this? Also, if you do the math, I make less than $3.75/HR which is WAY LESS than what any waiter, waitress, bus boy or bartender makes when you add in their tips, which they always cry about.

 

[CunningStunts]

I don't get a "tip" at my job, but I realize most professional wait staff make their money this way. I tip when the service is GOOD about 15-20%. If it's average, maybe 10%. If it's bad, maybe 5% or less depending on the attitude.

I agree in with Chef in theory... I mean, expecting to get a tip is just wrong... they dhould bust as to EARN one. It is my money after all, and I am the customer.

 

[Hooli]

Mr Pink had it right. It sounds like chef should take up waiting tables. Haha

 

[ChefChiTown]

Mr pink had it right. It sounds like chef should take up waiting tables. Haha

I probably should. I'd make a shit load more money than I do now.

 

[Legzman]

how would all this work into me getting tipped for delivering furniture? We do get tips occasionally...but only occasionally. Seriously pizza delivery gets tips so...furniture delivery should also get fucking tips!!!

 

[ChefChiTown]

how would all this work into me getting tipped for delivering furniture? We do get tips occasionally...but only occasionally. Seriously pizza delivery gets tips so...furniture delivery should also get fucking tips!!!

I tipped the guys who moved my stuff into this apartment. And, I bought them some Gatorade because they were sweaty monkeys.

 

[mongo18]

I'm with Legz, the barman gets tips for handing a bottle of beer across the bar, but I don't get a stinking dime for promptly showing up at rooms to plunge filthy toilets or show idiots how to use the dvd player.

But adding to Chef's comments about the "prestige" of being a chef, there isn't any. It's a hot, filthy, noisy, thankless job. My wife ran the kitchen here as both the sous chef and pastry chef for 5 years.
In Summer, the kitchen staff grows by at least a dozen, and it's funny, if you lined up all the starters, you could pick out all the clean shaven, spotless pressed chef coat wearing, thermometer in pocket cooking school grads, and tell them to go home right away, cause they ain't gonna make it. Then pick out all your scraggly, scruffy, torn t-shirt stained jeans sturdy shoes wearing transients, and put your faith in those guys, cause they are the ones who know what they're in for and they'll get it done.

 

[anomaly]

Even though I do not want to tip I still do and I tip well if the service was great. I tip servers, valets, hair/nail stylist and bartenders. I do not tip anyone else though. I noticed a tip cup at Dunkin Donuts, a mom-n-pop video store and a couple similar store. I placed a few novelty dollars in their cups with the a messages that stated if you want a tip get a service job.:yinyang:

 

[Legzman]

I tipped the guys who moved my stuff into this apartment. And, I bought them some Gatorade because they were sweaty monkeys.

Hey, hey, hey...I sweat like a stuck pig, especially when its hot!

 

[hedonis]

I gauge my tip on how the service is, and it's just that simple. I usually leave a nickel if I have a waiter or waitress that just plain sucks. I've left tips like "Look both ways crossing the street" for wait staff that have really, really sucked, but usually, if I get taken care of fairly well at a restaurant, I tip really well.

My favorite was a place that was asking for tips at a buffet... heh? You want a tip for ringing me up at the cash register? I got my own beverages and food.

So- when a waitress or waiter keeps the drinks topped off, the food is served in a timely manner, and when he/she walks away, no one at my table says quietly "What's up her butt?", I tip pretty good.

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[E-Ann-Hilden]

$1 for crappy service
15% for good service
20% for very good service
25% for excellent service in a large group (barring it is not added auto in the bill)

 

[D-rock]

I agree a lot with what people here have said. On the other hand I know people that relay on tips that don't make out like bandits either because of where they live, the way the place they work at is run, or the fact they don't work in a high class place where people have a lot of money to blow. For everybody making hundreds of dollars a night for little work there are people that really do just get a little more than minimum wage with their tips added in.

 

[CunningStunts]

$1 for crappy service
15% for good service
20% for very good service
25% for excellent service in a large group (barring it is not added auto in the bill)

Sounds about right to me.:thumbsup:

 

[calpoon]

I'm going to side with D-rock on this one. I don't think that most people in tipping positions really make all that much money.

the only people that really do are strippers. even waiters in five star restaurants, not so much. the rich are the skimpiest spenders of all.

I'd say the average tipping position makes around 10 bucks an hour, when you break it down. that's not too shabby, it's better than min wage, but it's not like they are raking in the dough.

one thing that you also forget about is that they don't just pass around a plate, they represent the face of the establishment. It doesn't matter how good the food is, people will forget the food, but they will remember the service. And they also have to take all the blame for everything that goes wrong. maybe the guys in the back will hear about it, but it's going to be at least third or fourthhand.

 

[mongo18]

people will forget the food,

I heartily disagree with that one.

 

[calpoon]

unless the food is terrible, or if it is fantastic, then it is probably just filling. and it usually is. now it's the disposition of the server that is most likely to change on occasion, and that is what will stick out.