My Theory On Tipping...

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
As a chef, I am constantly forced to listen to waiters, waitresses, bus boys and bartenders all bitch about their tips, or lack there of. Now, I understand that most positions such as these make minimum wage (or less than) and somewhat "rely" on tips to survive. Although I do understand how bad it has to suck to make $2.15/HR (or whatever), I don't feel bad for these people at all, especially when they are never happy with the amount of money they make.

At a restaurant I used to work at, the main hostess/bartender made $3/HR (wage), but earned over $200/NIGHT (tips included) when she worked. She came into work at 4PM and got to leave when dinner service ended (which was either 10PM or 11PM). For 6-7 hours of work, this girl was making $200 CASH. Yet, she still bitched. Umm, ok? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that :calculates in head: around $30/HR?!?!?! Shit, I was making $300/week salary and putting in 80-90 hour work weeks. And, she is complaining?

She always got mad when people would "only" leave her a $5 or $7 tip on a $50 tab (for example) because it wasn't the "appropriate percentage" and seemed to completely ignore the fact that she was getting an extra $5 in her pocket for, pretty much, no reason at all, other than "tradition". While I'm standing in the kitchen, slaving over hot stoves, charring grills, steaming pots and busting my ass to cook food for people, people like her somehow have the balls to bitch to people like me about not getting paid enough money? HA!!!

So, with that being said, here is my theory on tipping...

It is commonly understood that customers are "supposed" to tip anywhere between 12-15% This is complete bullshit and let me tell you why....

Scenario A) I am a customer. I order the salmon entree which costs $15. The waitress takes my order, takes her ticket back to the kitchen and waits for it to be prepared. A few minutes later, when my salmon is ready, she grabs the plate with my food on it, carries it to my table and sets it down.

The "appropriate" tip would be anywhere between $1.80 - $2.25 for that scenario.

Scenario B) I am a customer. I order the lobster ravioli entree which costs $75. The waitress takes my order, takes her ticket back to the kitchen and waits for it to be prepared. A few minutes later, when my lobster ravioli is ready, she grabs the plate with my food on it, carries it to my table and sets it down.

The "appropriate" tip would be anywhere between $9.00 - $11.25 for that scenario.

Conclusion:

The waitress is doing the same exact amount of work and carrying the same exact amount of plates in both scenarios, yet, I am "supposed" to tip her more in Scenario B. Why? Because I ordered something that costs more. Do you see how stupid that is?

Not only have I already dished out a large amount of money for my food, but now, just because my meal is already costing me a lot of money, I'm "supposed" to give my waitress a huge amount of cash as well?!?!?! :wtf:

NO. The cost of my food has nothing to do with the amount of work you're doing. I will tip you more money if my order makes you do more work and if you are quick, courteous and pleasant.

Have a nice day!
 
Just dont tip, it works for me. Although you do have to find another place to eat after you havent tipped but hey, variety is the spice of life :D


Waiters etc get to cocky about tipping anyway, they expect it even if their service has been bad. I mean come on if your not a good waiter you dont deserve it.

But I dont tip so, fuck 'em!
 
I agree with BlueBalls.

I'll tip if the service was good, regardless of what I ordered. If the service was bad, even if we spend R1 000 at a restaurant, I won't tip. But if the service was good we'll tip R50 even if our bill was only R200.

The $ is about 7.5 to the ZAR (R) I think. So you can do the calculations yourself....maths has never been a good friend of mine.....
 
Agree totally with both Chef & Blueballs. I do tip, but only if they go above & beyond the bog standard service. Just doing their job is not enough, they should make you feel like a valued customer etc. I think in Japan it is seen as rude to tip!!
I remember when I first visited the US a mate told me you should tip in bars...tip someone for serving me a drink!?! Needless to say I didn't, so they probably spat in my beer!!

The only form of tipping I like is cow-tipping!! lol
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
After my last job.. I just cant feel the same way about tipping servers.

They make tons upon tons of cash. They're whiny about slow times, fast times, big tips, small tips.. they're just whiny in general.

They try to sell you things you dont need. Another appetizer? Dessert time? Another mixed drink please please buy it!? I go in wanting one thing, I leave with less cash than I thought I'd have.

The money these people make, and never having to wait between paychecks... I'm leaning more towards Steve Buscemi's stance on it in Res. Dogs now. Good service? WHO CARES?! I've busted my ass doing a 40/60/80 hour week all my life and I dont get paid half of what they do. THAT IS GOOD SERVICE! For 15 - 50$ an hour.. they better not complain. Ever.
 
Instead of variable tipping, i prefer fixed tipping which is 5 liras if i am having food at a really above average restaurant and got served by a really friendly, clean and good looking waiter/waitress. Waitresses have more chance to get a tip from me, by the way. ;)

Thank God, fast food restaurants like Pizza Hut use computers when calculating and paying, computers always exclude the tip. :D
 
The whole thing is crazy.Staff should be paid a reasonable wage and this be part of the price paid by the customers.
Same in pubs/bars.In the UK the price of a pint includes service and surroundings as well as the beer.My friends in America seem to tip a dollar a time and see nothing wrong.I even met one guy who said "If I tip well sometimes the barman gives me a free drink" Free?
 

Facetious

Moderated
Chefs just get no respect ! Plain and simple.

When I go out for a nice dining experience, I patronize those restaurants that consistently turn over a tasty dish, the atmosphere is secondary. If both the food AND the atmosphere (hooters-like server included) are superb, the culinary experience will cost me more . . . and I will compensate accordingly.


When the food is great, why not request to speak to the chef who prepped the food for your table . . . kick him down 10 or 15 bucks. Offer them some incentive to do a good job . . . . 'cause the waitress / waiters sure as hell ain't gonna do it, IMO.


xxxxxxxxxx:glugglug: Cheers To The Chefs That Make It All Happen *CCT Included :glugglug:
 

24788

☼LEGIT☼
I should definitly become a waiter. They bitch about making that kind of cash? I make $9 an hour to bust my ass. I am a loader at lowes, rarely do we get tips. Most i've ever gotten was $5 most of the time it's nothing though. I am also a back up delivery driver.

I find it funny how these people bitch about there jobs. Nice thing about my job is if someone starts bitching at me ill just tell them to load it themselves if they want to be that way. It's only happened a couple of times in the past year and my managers backed me on it.

You really can't tell them to get the food themselves. I hate bitchy people, so I work my hardest to try to keep them quiet. Most poeple understand I have a shit job so there nice. Give me a dollar to go buy a water.
 
I used to cook at a restaurant and at the end of the nite, all of us employees would sit down for a drink while the waitresses would count out their stacks of tips...I've seen some girls go home with upwards of $400 a nite...while I go home with my 50 bucks after taxes. Not to mention, the girls go home looking just as nice as they did coming in, and I go home sweating buckets and smelling like food, because cooking in a kitchen is way more hot, physically demanding and stressful than carrying plates to customers.

Regardless, I still tip. Usually no more than 5 bucks though, no matter what the final bill was.
 
I know how it is, I work maintenance at a resort and I know the kitchen staff and the waitstaff pretty well. Yes, the base wage for a waitress is jack shit but they do make shitloads in tips. The worst is when we host events like weddings, parties etc. My maintenance staff work all day, sometimes previous days, getting the whole thing set up with tables, chairs, lights, linens, the whole bullshit. The kitchen staff work their asses off in a noisy, sweaty kitchen all day and usually previous days. The waitstaff shows up at 5pm and are done by 9, and make somewhere in the order of several hundred a piece. My guys and the kitchen staff don't even get a pat on the back, because we're still working while the waitstaff and wedding coordinator are drinking champagne and being told what a great job they did on everything.
I will tip for good service, but for good food, I usually ask to buy the chef a drink for after their shift, and hope that the bartender is honest. I've met a few chefs, and never known one who wouldn't appreciate that.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Chefs just get no respect ! Plain and simple.

When I go out for a nice dining experience, I patronize those restaurants that consistently turn over a tasty dish, the atmosphere is secondary. If both the food AND the atmosphere (hooters-like server included) are superb, the culinary experience will cost me more . . . and I will compensate accordingly.


When the food is great, why not request to speak to the chef who prepped the food for your table . . . kick him down 10 or 15 bucks. Offer them some incentive to do a good job . . . . 'cause the waitress / waiters sure as hell ain't gonna do it, IMO.


xxxxxxxxxx:glugglug: Cheers To The Chefs That Make It All Happen *CCT Included :glugglug:

I'm so happy, I have tears in my eyes. :crying:

Thank you :sniffles: thank you.
 

24788

☼LEGIT☼
Do you own your place you work at? If not do you plan on owning a place someday? What type of place do you work at also?

on another note: Does your place have tv's with sports on? If so you should probably turn them off before the White Sox lose to Cleveland.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Do you own your place you work at? If not do you plan on owning a place someday? What type of place do you work at also?

on another note: Does your place have tv's with sports on? If so you should probably turn them off before the White Sox lose to Cleveland.

No, I don't own it.
Yes, I plan on owning my own restaurant someday.
It's an Italian restaurant.
No, there's no TV's as I don't work at a bar.

Oh, and we probably will lose tonight because we're blowing some pretty hard dick right now.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
im an advocate for the chefs or cooks to receive a percentage of the tips. if the food sucked, the server wouldnt get shit. if it was great, the server would probably get more. so wtf.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
im an advocate for the chefs or cooks to receive a percentage of the tips. if the food sucked, the server wouldnt get shit. if it was great, the server would probably get more. so wtf.

I proposed that offer to one of the owners I used to work for and they laughed at me. I was told that "cooks are paid MORE THAN ADEQUATELY for what they do" and that we "don't deserve to get tips for other people's work."

So I just told her...

"The waiters and waitresses get tipped a lot of the time because the food I cook tasted good. They are making tips off of my work."

Then I was told to get back to work.
 

Facetious

Moderated
I will tip for good service, but for good food, I usually ask to buy the chef a drink for after their shift, and hope that the bartender is honest.


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That's the thing, the "poor and disadvantaged" culinary experts work way back in the shadows of the premises . . . they go about their duties and are rarely, if ever seen by those who get to consume their finished product. It's an unfair advantage to only tip the server or bartender because once the chef's tip enters the servers / tenders pocket, it ain't coming out.
 
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