Mr Marcus Patient Zero in Syphilis Outbreak

[eric2136]

If you're too stupid and lazy to go and and figure things out for yourself then that's your problem...I already took the time too research the issue and develop fully referenced factually accurate statements...What have you done besides run your mouth and ass kiss porn models that don't even like you..absolutely nothing

Where's your references, where's your thesis ...you don't have any... You don't have the intelligence to refute or even question anything I've said...you have no references no statistical evidence, no nothing....relying on unsupported unsubstantiated word of mouth hearsay is irrelevant and pointless...

There is no setting in the UNIVERSE where unsubstantiated claims are in any way shape or form comparable to documented authoritative references...so if all you have is hearsay from a couple of porn models to support your position, whatever that is, then you have no position,,,in fact you have NOTHING ...you're completely SOL

i didn't ask you to tell me to reread your posts. i asked you to restate your thesis as a simple and concise statement so as to refocus your argument which has become muddled and cumbersome. there's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension and it's immature and offensive of you to assume such, although you yourself make it pretty clear that arguing with you is pointless, not because you're irrefutable but because you're as incorrigible as a wall and refuse to respect the information provided by your opposition which is provided via word of mouth by individuals who are actually significant in the porn world. i suppose if we were to take the quotes of Mariah, Aaliyah, Sabrina, Jane, Maggie and any other OCSM's that may have posted here and publish them elsewhere and then cite them as references to support our arguments then you may accept them as valid? just because a notable figure stated something in an interview or article that got published does not necessarily mean that it is reliable, serious or accurate information or is pertinent to a given argument. this thread has dwindled to a childish battle of "our experts are better than your experts" just as many internet arguments tend to do, the only difference in this case is that the "experts" supporting one side happen to be directly involved in the exchange. if you were to have belladonna, rocco sifredi and some of your other names actually come on here and take stance against the OCSM's who've posted here then that would be something. until then, if you could, please refocus the intent of your argument.

 

[Wetpussycatsinheat]

Maggie Green[/URL][/B], post: 6973879, member: 346743"]
So there will always be risks involved...as there is when you meet someone in a bar and take them home and fuck them.

Hmmm....What's your favorite bar? Wanna go clubbin?

 

[Death-Proof-69]

If you're too stupid and lazy to go and and figure things out for yourself then that's your problem...I already took the time too research the issue and develop fully referenced factually accurate statements...What have you done besides run your mouth and ass kiss porn models that don't even like you..absolutely nothing

Where's your references, where's your thesis ...you don't have any... You don't have the intelligence to refute or even question anything I've said...you have no references no statistical evidence, no nothing....relying on unsupported unsubstantiated word of mouth hearsay is irrelevant and pointless...

There is no setting in the UNIVERSE where unsubstantiated claims are in any way shape or form comparable to documented authoritative references...so if all you have is hearsay from a couple of porn models to support your position, whatever that is, then you have no position,,,in fact you have NOTHING ...you're completely SOL

thank you for proving my point, have a nice day.

 

[zonty]

Maggie Green[/URL][/B], post: 6973879, member: 346743"] As for faking tests, the companies that I've shot for look my test up in the TTS system so they can see it straight from the source, which is what every company should do. I've honestly never gone to a set and had them only rely on my paper test copy.

thanks Madam Green. that backs up what Mariah stated in a previous post. it's not rocket science. stick to programming larss. lol

 

[Maggie Green]

Anyway, this thread has run it's course. Let's stop feeding the trolls and ignore them.

 

[georges]

Whatever. You're only saying that shit because you only find her attractive. I bet if you didn't find her attractive or popular with her saying that shit you wouldn't be in favour of hers.

Hey pal, you know how I think, do ya? No, so please spare me usual useless bs and perhaps you should apply criticism to your ownself especially when you aren't at the level to counterbalance an argument. I am advocating and supporting people who are clever and enough responsible people. My advise to you is think before you post. In that thread, you are the one who ridiculed yourself and who were owned by almost every ocsm for defending that scumbag of marcus alongwith eric1236. Isn't that enough? I don't think you need more flak. Give it a rest.

 

[spacearrow99]

Hey pal, you know how I think, do ya? No, so please spare me usual useless bs and perhaps you should apply criticism to your ownself especially when you aren't at the level to counterbalance an argument. I am advocating and supporting people who are clever and enough responsible people. My advise to you is think before you post. In that thread, you are the one who ridiculed yourself and who were owned by almost every ocsm for defending that scumbag of marcus alongwith eric1236. Isn't that enough? I don't think you need more flak. Give it a rest.

Deepcover was owned by the ocsms, Eric1236 made valid points.

 

[24 Grams]

Not everyone in the industry has an STD or herpes, you idiot. Do you believe everything that you read?

No, but he's saying MOST do. Mariah agrees too...on page 12...

...Sharon Mitchell who ran AIM (Adult Industry mediacal) for years would know much better than Rocco would on who has what. She said that the % of active performers with Herpes is always over 60%, but the required tests do NOT test for herpes.

Herpes was an STD last time I checked...

...I'd never have unprotected sex with someone outside of the industry again unless they were tested.

So you'll have unprotected sex with someone inside the industry? Even though over 60% of them have herpes and many more escort? And even though someone like Mr Marcus can easily alter their test?

...did you know that herpe sores are often in areas that aren't covered by the condom? Condoms are not totally effective in prevention of STDs.

Wait, are you trying to say because condoms don't protect everything...why have any protection at all?

As for faking tests, the companies that I've shot for look my test up in the TTS system so they can see it straight from the source, which is what every company should do. I've honestly never gone to a set and had them only rely on my paper test copy.

The key phrase here is "the companies I've shot for...". OBVIOUSLY not ALL companies do this...otherwise this thread would not exist...

The only answer to all of this is to not shoot porn! And who wants that to happen! Nobody! So there will always be risks involved...as there is when you meet someone in a bar and take them home and fuck them.

1) Who said nobody wants porn to be over?

2) Yes there is risks when you meet someone at a bar...but A) Most people I know have sex with condoms B) The girls that I've met in a bar and fucked don't escort...nor do they fuck 20 different guys a month.

...and actually the OCSM's that you've been talking aren't on the "fringes of the industry" as you put it, several of them are actually very well known and established in the industry and their statements are as valid as the quotes and links you've provided. moreover they're pertinent to this exact discussion.

Actually, not as much as you think. What you will always get from forums like these is bias...NOBODY currently in the industry is going to talk down on it...otherwise they'll be doing SOMETHING ELSE. Ask someone whose just robbed a bank or murdered someone...and tell them what they did was wrong. Some will regret it, some won't....but NONE will think it's wrong when they're ACTUALLY DOING THE ACT....otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

 

[Deepcover]

Kick in the door...ocsm's wavin the four four's...all I here from em is Deepcover don't post me no more...
I'm out like Obama later.

 

[eric2136]

No, but he's saying MOST do. Mariah agrees too...on page 12...



Herpes was an STD last time I checked...



So you'll have unprotected sex with someone inside the industry? Even though over 60% of them have herpes and many more escort? And even though someone like Mr Marcus can easily alter their test?


!
Wait, are you trying to say because condoms don't protect everything...why have any protection at all?



The key phrase here is "the companies I've shot for...". OBVIOUSLY not ALL companies do this...otherwise this thread would not exist...



1) Who said nobody wants porn to be over?

2) Yes there is risks when you meet someone at a bar...but A) Most people I know have sex with condoms B) The girls that I've met in a bar and fucked don't escort...nor do they fuck 20 different guys a month.



Actually, not as much as you think. What you will always get from forums like these is bias...NOBODY currently in the industry is going to talk down on it...otherwise they'll be doing SOMETHING ELSE. Ask someone whose just robbed a bank or murdered someone...and tell them what they did was wrong. Some will regret it, some won't....but NONE will think it's wrong when they're ACTUALLY DOING THE ACT....otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

Excellent Post ! !!!

 

[eric2136]

Kick in the door...ocsm's wavin the four four's...all I here from em is Deepcover don't post me no more...
I'm out like Obama later.

:1orglaugh:...:thumbsup:!

 

[AgentRaven77]

are you fucking kidding me? Interracial is one of the biggest aspects of the industry. nearly all girls shoot with black talent now minus a few. go through the top 10 girls on freeones and how many don't do IR regularly? And do YOU know how much Lexington Steele gets per scene? It's MORE than the WHITE girl he's shooting with 9 out of 10 times!! Same goes for Prince Yashua. I KNOW because I have shot with them!!!

shut the fuck up like you know anything AgentRaven did doing IR hurt Gianna Michaels or Angel Dark or Jenna Haze or Lisa Ann's career? there are even some asshole ugly girls like Kelly Divine who have a big name solely BECAUSE they are BBC queens. so please, the % of racist concepts in every day life are much greater than the racism in porn. Yes there are girls who refuse to shoot with black guys and use the copout lie by saying "I'm not racist, I'm just not attracted to black men" actually I think the current Miss Freeones uses that excuse. But yet has shot with Ron Jeremy lmao there are also girls who hold out for more money to do an IR scene, which is playing the market but to me fucked up. Your scene rate shouldn't depend on the other talent's skin color, but that's the reality.

Another instance of a troll pretending that he knows something because his freetime is spent reading forums on porn.

 

[DuanCulo]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ar-mr-marcus-jailed-in-syphilis-case/2390281/

 

[Mr_Balls]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ar-mr-marcus-jailed-in-syphilis-case/2390281/

Yup, I saw that article today at work.
I think it's fair. If he couldn't wait till it healed to fuck now he has to put in extra time.

 

[Sicario]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ar-mr-marcus-jailed-in-syphilis-case/2390281/

Wow! This fucking scum deserves at least 3 months in jail for putting other peoples lives at risk, and knowingly altering his medical test to continue working... how low can someone go?

 

[Sam Fisher]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

[Mariahxxx]

Funny how people were saying what he had done isn't criminal and defending him and crying foul. Well turns out it IS criminal huh guys? If it weren't he couldn't have been prosecuted and done time for it. I am not generally the "told you so" type of person but fuckin A the shit I got on this thread deserves an enormous told you so!

 

[Deepcover]

That was a real shellacking for a criminal petty sentence...A SHELLACKING!

 

[eric2136]

Funny how people were saying what he had done isn't criminal and defending him and crying foul. Well turns out it IS criminal huh guys? If it weren't he couldn't have been prosecuted and done time for it. I am not generally the "told you so" type of person but fuckin A the shit I got on this thread deserves an enormous told you so!

30 days is LESS than a slap on the wrist. and he most likely wouldn't have even gotten that if he wasn't already in jail on an un-related drunk driving offense..As I said before, he was an easy target.

Regarding the flack you got , the point that was made by me, which is still the same point is that, why was he being singled-out and persecuted for knowingly working with an STD when he most likely wasn't patient zero, when basically the whole industry has herpes (which they don't even test for) and other STD's, and then they knowingly work with said STD's all the time. And especially when condoms are basically illegally prohibited by porn companies in most straight porn.. (refer to post #262 and #286 of this thread)

The first reason you got flack was because, despite all the evidence which I provided clearly illustrating that the above was indeed true, you argued vehemently and irrationally against me providing no evidence whatsoever to support your position (as is your usual style). Only, months later, to have the audacity to say the exact same thing that I said in another thread stating .

"...because of addiction? no. I left the industry because I had been doing it since 9 days after I turned 18 back in 1998. I have been extremely lucky to never have had any STDs when more than 70% of the industry has Herpes and gets a variety of STDs on a regular basis. I have a son who is now 16 and didn't want that in my life for him to deal with. I wanted to do something I can be proud of and I am, and making more money today than I ever did doing movies. I have never escorted, not even one time, and I'm confident saying that AT LEAST 90% of the girls in porn do. They fuck strangers in hotel rooms at night, then show up to set the next morning to do a scene. They haven't been tested and most do it without a condom for extra money so who knows what's being spread around?

I am disgusted with the state of the industry today. The testing is horrible, the girls now live porn as a lifestyle rather than a career..."

http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?695763-One-Porn-Star-s-Political-Opinions/page14

The second reason you got flack was because, although you did countless scenes with him, knew him personally and apparently liked him, you seemed to be over-joyed in leading the cheer to get him charged with a FELONY and put UNDER the jail, which I personally found to be odd and somewhat disgusting.

The third reason was because you railed on me about how porn companies shouldn't share in the liablity in cases like Marcus' where condoms aren't allowed, because you said condoms wouldn't help limit the spread of STD's, but then, yet again, you have the audacity to say somewhere else:

"...you said added OPTION it isn't an option. I think [porn] should be condom only, but implemented by the industry, not by a bunch of people in Sacramento. "

http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?695763-One-Porn-Star-s-Political-Opinions/page15 (post #357).

So yeah, wow, he got 30 days in jail, big deal, but the reasons that you got flack are still the same and, if anything, those reasons are now more apparent than ever.

 

[DuanCulo]

guess who's back??? must be a bad joke
http://www.lukeisback.com/2014/04/mr-marcus-is-back-thanks-to-vivid/