Mr Marcus Patient Zero in Syphilis Outbreak

[Jane Burgess]

I know enough about the Pink Cross and the crusade to recruit the porn girls into her little twisted world. I don't listen because I already have heard her message and someone I know was recruited by her so please, spare me that shit. And you are clearly either her or in her corner, and either way that makes your reason for being on this board suspect.

Oh fuck Pink Cross people are so annoying. People in porn are victims of abuse, blah, blah. Ugh I can't stand those people. Plenty of people are abused and don't work in porn. Plenty of people had amazing childhoods and work in porn. It's a choice we all made because we wanted to. So tired of people leaving the industry and making lame ass excuses of why they were in it in the first place. Who cares, retire and move on.

 

[Jane Burgess]

Mr. Marcus wasn't singled out. He worked with an altered test and he knew he was wrong to do that. He put other people at risk. He deserves all the shit he is getting and many companies will never hire him again.

 

[larss]

Eric - I did not say that 90% of the population has genital herpes - check back - 90% of the world's population is infected with herpes (around 90% of the Earth's population carries HSV-1, 2, or both).
You are correct in that around 16-19% have HSV-2, and it is likely that this is somewhat higher in the adult industry - stands to reason.

As to whether Mr Marcus is being badly treated - HE ILLEGALLY ALTERED A DOCUMENT CHANGING HIS STATUS AS AN INFECTED PERSON!

What part of this do you fail to understand?
He lied and put other people in direct risk of infection.
The test showed that he was still infected and he hid part of the document contents.
Regardless of what doctors may or may not have told him, he should not have been working.

As far as the outbreak in the US is concerned, he is the earliest infection to come to light - he has given no information as to what previous partners he was with, so until something else comes to light, he is patient zero here.

 

[squallumz]

 

[Maggie Green]

Not everyone in the industry has an STD or herpes, you idiot. Do you believe everything that you read? God forbid that there's false information on the internet! I have never in my life had any sort of STD and I have many friends in the industry who shoot way more than I do who haven't either. And I know some that have as well. Of course it happens. But I'll say this...I'd never have unprotected sex with someone outside of the industry again unless they were tested. Unlike eric, who said in a different thread that he doesn't like condoms and won't have sex with someone who he doesn't "know" is ok. Yeah because we all know if someone "looks" ok then they can't possibly have an STD. And you keep going on and on about herpes and how the industry needs condoms but did you know that herpe sores are often in areas that aren't covered by the condom? Condoms are not totally effective in prevention of STDs. As for faking tests, the companies that I've shot for look my test up in the TTS system so they can see it straight from the source, which is what every company should do. I've honestly never gone to a set and had them only rely on my paper test copy.

The only answer to all of this is to not shoot porn! And who wants that to happen! Nobody! So there will always be risks involved...as there is when you meet someone in a bar and take them home and fuck them.

 

[georges]

Not everyone in the industry has an STD or herpes, you idiot. Do you believe everything that you read? God forbid that there's false information on the internet! I have never in my life had any sort of STD and I have many friends in the industry who shoot way more than I do who haven't either. And I know some that have as well. Of course it happens. But I'll say this...I'd never have unprotected sex with someone outside of the industry again unless they were tested. Unlike eric, who said in a different thread that he doesn't like condoms and won't have sex with someone who he doesn't "know" is ok. Yeah because we all know if someone "looks" ok then they can't possibly have an STD. And you keep going on and on about herpes and how the industry needs condoms but did you know that herpe sores are often in areas that aren't covered by the condom? Condoms are not totally effective in prevention of STDs. As for faking tests, the companies that I've shot for look my test up in the TTS system so they can see it straight from the source, which is what every company should do. I've honestly never gone to a set and had them only rely on my paper test copy.

The only answer to all of this is to not shoot porn! And who wants that to happen! Nobody! So there will always be risks involved...as there is when you meet someone in a bar and take them home and fuck them.

post of the week I say:clap::goodpost::yesyes:

 

[lurkingdirk]

post of the week I say:clap::goodpost::yesyes:

Then nominate it!

 

[Zaxxxx]

Good article....basically a history of this incident from info provided by Mr. Marcus....

http://www.xbiz.com/news/153477

 

[eric2136]

Wow that's brilliant....you're on the internet telling people to not believe other people on the interent...and other Porn Star Industry veterans such as Rocco, DR. Sharon Mitchell, founder of AIMs, and Belladona, who are all exponentially more succesful in the business than you...yes thats definately a compelling argument you make...

For you and Larrs or any others that choose to engage me on this issue again without first familiarizing yourself with ALL the facts I already presented, you AT LEAST need to go back and start at my post #416... try to actually comprehend the information provided, and then try to actually synthesize your unsubstantiated ramblings into something that even remotely resembles a valid hypothesis you want to discuss...because just constantly repeating myself to people who are somewhat slow on the uptake is boring to me and a waste of my time...

Not everyone in the industry has an STD or herpes, you idiot. Do you believe everything that you read? God forbid that there's false information on the internet! I have never in my life had any sort of STD and I have many friends in the industry who shoot way more than I do who haven't either. And I know some that have as well. Of course it happens. But I'll say this...I'd never have unprotected sex with someone outside of the industry again unless they were tested. Unlike eric, who said in a different thread that he doesn't like condoms and won't have sex with someone who he doesn't "know" is ok. Yeah because we all know if someone "looks" ok then they can't possibly have an STD. And you keep going on and on about herpes and how the industry needs condoms but did you know that herpe sores are often in areas that aren't covered by the condom? Condoms are not totally effective in prevention of STDs. As for faking tests, the companies that I've shot for look my test up in the TTS system so they can see it straight from the source, which is what every company should do. I've honestly never gone to a set and had them only rely on my paper test copy.

The only answer to all of this is to not shoot porn! And who wants that to happen! Nobody! So there will always be risks involved...as there is when you meet someone in a bar and take them home and fuck them.

 

[ApolloBalboa]

Wow that's brilliant....you're on the internet telling people to not believe other people on the interent...

Isn't that also what you're doing?

 

[eric2136]

No ..the method of communication has no signifigance regarding any of the information provided.

Isn't that also what you're doing?

 

[Deepcover]

post of the week I say:clap::goodpost::yesyes:

Whatever. You're only saying that shit because you only find her attractive. I bet if you didn't find her attractive or popular with her saying that shit you wouldn't be in favour of hers.

 

[assari]

Whatever. You're only saying that shit because you only find her attractive.

The best commnet I've ever read here. :rofl:

 

[Death-Proof-69]

Wow that's brilliant....you're on the internet telling people to not believe other people on the interent...and other Porn Star Industry veterans such as Rocco, DR. Sharon Mitchell, founder of AIMs, and Belladona, who are all exponentially more succesful in the business than you...yes thats definately a compelling argument you make...

For you and Larrs or any others that choose to engage me on this issue again without first familiarizing yourself with ALL the facts I already presented, you AT LEAST need to go back and start at my post #416... try to actually comprehend the information provided, and then try to actually synthesize your unsubstantiated ramblings into something that even remotely resembles a valid hypothesis you want to discuss...because just constantly repeating myself to people who are somewhat slow on the uptake is boring to me and a waste of my time...

No ..the method of communication has no signifigance regarding any of the information provided.

actually the method of communication does have significance. nobody knows who you are and nobody can verify your credibility whereas the people you're arguing with have real names attached to real faces and their credibility is easily verified. all of your information is drawn from quotes and references from various "porn star industry veterens" who unfortunately are not involved in this discussion making their statements somewhat irrelevant to the discussion and taken out of context. you're taking the words of others to argue your point when the people whose words you are using aren't around to clarify their meaning or intent, you're just assuming they're accurate and valid to your argument. so far it's you, an unknown individual on the internet armed with quotes and references he found on the internet and other news media sources against several individuals who are actually IN the porn industry as actors and producers and have first hand experience and knowledge. any person with their head on right is going to trust the people who actually know what they're talking about over some random who's merely quoting things that he read from various sources that may or may not be valid.

 

[eric2136]

Any factual assertions and/or statistical information regarding a fundamental argumentative premise has to be supported by concurrent references. The authorotative strength of the corraborating evidence establishes determinative credibility. This is so regardless of your proffession and regardless of the method of communication..

No one has provided any references or statistical evidence whatsover contradicting any factual assertions which I made in this thread because they can't...No has challenged the contextual accuracy with contrary references because they can't.

As for authorotative sources such as Sharon Mitchell. Porn Stars have already, in this thread, established that she is indeed an expert in this field and her credentials are beyond reproach...She has done interiews with 60 minutes, Date-Line, ABC News and variety of different other news outlets and websites from which her quotes and vid clips in this thread are garnerd...

Simple unsubstantiated hearsay "word of mouth" from one or two OSCM's operating on the fringes of the industry has no signifigance compared to that... Now if they had ANY credibile documented references WHATSOEVER backing up their assertions, then they might actually need to be considered for their relevance and accuracy.

actually the method of communication does have significance. nobody knows who you are and nobody can verify your credibility whereas the people you're arguing with have real names attached to real faces and their credibility is easily verified. all of your information is drawn from quotes and references from various "porn star industry veterens" who unfortunately are not involved in this discussion making their statements somewhat irrelevant to the discussion and taken out of context. you're taking the words of others to argue your point when the people whose words you are using aren't around to clarify their meaning or intent, you're just assuming they're accurate and valid to your argument. so far it's you, an unknown individual on the internet armed with quotes and references he found on the internet and other news media sources against several individuals who are actually IN the porn industry as actors and producers and have first hand experience and knowledge. any person with their head on right is going to trust the people who actually know what they're talking about over some random who's merely quoting things that he read from various sources that may or may not be valid.

 

[lurkingdirk]

I'm curious why people are still entertaining eric in this thread?

 

[alexpnz]

Eric2136 Patient Zero in Overanalyzing Outbreak.

 

[Death-Proof-69]

I'm curious why people are still entertaining eric in this thread?

nothing better to do? :dunno:

Any factual assertions and/or statistical information regarding a fundamental argumentative premise has to be supported by concurrent references. The authorotative strength of the corraborating evidence establishes determinative credibility. This is so regardless of your proffession and regardless of the method of communication..

No one has provided any references or statistical evidence whatsover contradicting any factual assertions which I made in this thread because they can't...No has challenged the contextual accuracy with contrary references because they can't.

As for authorotative sources such as Sharon Mitchell. Porn Stars have already, in this thread, established that she is indeed an expert in this field and her credentials are beyond reproach...She has done interiews with 60 minutes, Date-Line, ABC News and variety of different other news outlets and websites from which her quotes and vid clips in this thread are garnerd...

Simple unsubstantiated hearsay "word of mouth" from one or two OSCM's operating on the fringes of the industry has no signifigance compared to that... Now if they had ANY credibile documented references WHATSOEVER backing up their assertions, then they might actually need to be considered for their relevance and accuracy.

i've asked you before what the POINT you're trying to make is and didn't see a reply. maybe if you restated it clearly people might see what you're getting at instead of the walls of text and quotes and links that cloud your argument rather than support it. and actually the OCSM's that you've been talking aren't on the "fringes of the industry" as you put it, several of them are actually very well known and established in the industry and their statements are as valid as the quotes and links you've provided. moreover they're pertinent to this exact discussion.

 

[eric2136]

Go back and re-read all my posts in this thread several times..if you can't figure out the point after doing that then perhaps you should just give up because you just lack sufficient mental comprehension abilities...

No opposition in this thread has the intellectual ability to contradict me citing adequate references and authority as is standard in any debate or discussion ...unsupported unsubstantiated hearsay comments from a couple of desperate fringe porn models is insignifigant.

nothing better to do? :dunno:



i've asked you before what the POINT you're trying to make is and didn't see a reply. maybe if you restated it clearly people might see what you're getting at instead of the walls of text and quotes and links that cloud your argument rather than support it. and actually the OCSM's that you've been talking aren't on the "fringes of the industry" as you put it, several of them are actually very well known and established in the industry and their statements are as valid as the quotes and links you've provided. moreover they're pertinent to this exact discussion.

 

[Death-Proof-69]

Go back and re-read all my posts in this thread several times..if you can't figure out the point after doing that then perhaps you should just give up because you just lack sufficient mental comprehension abilities...

No opposition in this thread has the intellectual ability to contradict me citing adequate references and authority as is standard in any debate or discussion ...unsupported unsubstantiated hearsay comments from a couple of desperate fringe porn models is insignifigant.

i didn't ask you to tell me to reread your posts. i asked you to restate your thesis as a simple and concise statement so as to refocus your argument which has become muddled and cumbersome. there's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension and it's immature and offensive of you to assume such, although you yourself make it pretty clear that arguing with you is pointless, not because you're irrefutable but because you're as incorrigible as a wall and refuse to respect the information provided by your opposition which is provided via word of mouth by individuals who are actually significant in the porn world. i suppose if we were to take the quotes of Mariah, Aaliyah, Sabrina, Jane, Maggie and any other OCSM's that may have posted here and publish them elsewhere and then cite them as references to support our arguments then you may accept them as valid? just because a notable figure stated something in an interview or article that got published does not necessarily mean that it is reliable, serious or accurate information or is pertinent to a given argument. this thread has dwindled to a childish battle of "our experts are better than your experts" just as many internet arguments tend to do, the only difference in this case is that the "experts" supporting one side happen to be directly involved in the exchange. if you were to have belladonna, rocco sifredi and some of your other names actually come on here and take stance against the OCSM's who've posted here then that would be something. until then, if you could, please refocus the intent of your argument.