PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Hasn't the deadline passed, or are you talking getting him on waivers?

It appears you're right. I wasn't sure when the deadline was. I meant there were plenty of rumours in the hours before the deadline, sorry. Glad to know what we didn't trade him though.
 
My White Sox are on a roll right now. It looks as if we wont be moving newly acquired Edwin Jackson but thats alright as he'll be penciled in as the fourth or fifth starter now and we're gonna need him down the stretch. It looks as if the Central is now down to the Sox and the Twins, its gonna good.

Pretty much. The Tigers are falling off a bit now.
 
Mariners are so bad, I'm not even looking forward to next season at this point.

Dear Lord. They are terrible. I'm watching them right now and the Twins already have a few extra base hits in the first inning:eeew:.

What's up with the Twins trading Wilson Ramos, their top prospect. Don't they eventually want to move Mauer to like 1B/DH to lessen the wear and tear on his body from catching and put Ramos in as catcher?

I didn't understand that much at all. What they should've done was gotten a proven veteran starter, not a closer who will likely be gone next year after Joe Nathan gets back. They have a good front office - maybe best in the league - but I didn't understand that. Orlando Cabrera and Pavano pick ups last year though were pretty damn good moves. Helped us get post season.
 
anyhoo, the Dodgers are officially done for 2010.
within 5 games of 1st and 2 1/2 of the wild card their BIG signing deadline move was obtaining Scott Podsednik. whoop de doo :rolleyes:

oops. My bad.
At the last moment they also picked up the murderer's row of Dotel, Theriot and Lilly :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

As I was saying, the Dodgers are officially done for 2010.
 
That's an interesting perspective. I actually felt Colletti had done fairly well the last three years considering the spending contraints he's seemingly had to deal with. Manny, Blake, Sherrill, and Padilla were all good pickups at their respective prices during the season each was obtained.
Then again, going further back, when allowed broader spending limits, Colletti did engineer the Jason Schmidt nightmare.

To me Moreno seems more committed to winnng than McCourt :dunno:

anyhoo, the Dodgers are officially done for 2010.
within 5 games of 1st and 2 1/2 of the wild card their BIG signing deadline move was obtaining Scott Podsednik. whoop de doo :rolleyes:


Art Moreno has literally done nothing but re-brand the Angels in an attempt to appeal to the largely Mexican audience of Dodgers fans in LA. He hasn't spent more than his predecessor, he just got lucky that his GM found a group of the luckiest players in the league.

McCourt on the other hand, had Colletti come in and completely fuck up the foundation that Paul DePodesta had set up (which is why the Dodgers have such players as Matt Kemp, Rafael Fucal, and James Loney among others). He's increased his spending every year of the past decade, and unfortunately for him had an idiot step in as GM.

And remember the glory days of Griffey and Randy Johnson? They were reasonable for a while there. Should've never left the old dome. Hell that's probably why/how Griffey hit so many dongs.

That dome was actually a pitchers park.
 
And the Pirates continue to get bad players when they trade. out of yesterdays 3 deals a part time catcher,a part time short stop, 2 5th starter types and a 5th outfielder who can't hit lefties. i'm not a Pirate fan but alot of my family is and these kind of deals get rid of fans which is to bad because their home fiels is one of the 10 best.

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McCourt on the other hand, had Colletti come in and completely fuck up the foundation that Paul DePodesta had set up (which is why the Dodgers have such players as Matt Kemp, Rafael Fucal, and James Loney among others). He's increased his spending every year of the past decade, and unfortunately for him had an idiot step in as GM.

I always thought DePodesta got screwed over by the Dodgers. The brought him in, hardly gave him anytime to overhaul the organization, a great portion of the organization fought with him every step of the way while he tried to do it, and when he didn't get immediate results they got rid of him. It was like they expected him to magically make stuff better by his mere presence because he was Beane's protégé when in reality it takes years to set up an efficiently run system and get the right personnel and players in place and it takes year to get rid of the personnel and players that hurt the organization. That's to say nothing of the fact it would have taken years just to change the culture of the Dodger organization alone.
 
And the Twins continue to be on a hot (winning) streak. Kevin Slowey throws an 8 inning, 3 hit outing (albeit against the lowly Mariners). But Mauer is out a couple days after a quartizone shot. Not worried. Once Morneau is back, we takin' it to the top. :nanner:
 
Twins/Liriano about to take their eigth straight W. Liriano goes shutout 7 innings with 10K. Twins only give up 2 hits. Twins lead the MLB in team batting average at .283 and they're not even used to or able to hit dongs in the new Target Field. :bowdown: I don't know, they are gonna be a tough bet for any team that runs into them any time soon. :glugglug: Sox watch out.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Christ, the Jays must be the only team in the entire league that loses to the Indians on a regular basis. Another year of mediocrity. Huzzah!
 
Bill Simmons has a pretty solid essay on ESPN.com about baseball and the Red Sox this year...

I'd offer a linky but...:sleep: too lazy to...
 
It's hell of a lot better division than the AL West. :1orglaugh As you can see:

I was pretty much just going to say the same thing.

The Angels aren't very good this year,and will have to do whatever they can to catch the Rangers.The A's suck ass and so do the Mariners,who are probably the worst team in the league.

75% of the AL West isn't good,vs 2 out of 5 in the central.

Seems like simple math to me.
 
And the Pirates continue to get bad players when they trade. out of yesterdays 3 deals a part time catcher,a part time short stop, 2 5th starter types and a 5th outfielder who can't hit lefties. i'm not a Pirate fan but alot of my family is and these kind of deals get rid of fans which is to bad because their home fiels is one of the 10 best.

red001

Are we seeing the same deals here?

McDonald has a career K/9 of 7.40, a career FIP of 4.41, and he's had unbelievably bad luck this season, stemming from a BABIP of .408.

Snyder is average, if unspectacular, which is a good thing considering Doumit will probably never play a completely healthy season, and it's starting to effect his productivity.

Bowker has absolutely mashed at AAA, and while he may prove to be a AAAA player in the long run, they gave up nearly nothing to the Giants to get two guys who have some upside, however limited that may be.

Lambo is the interesting case, because he's got the ceiling of a solidly above average outfielder right now, despite his struggles this year. He's not as bad as he's playing now, nor is he as good as he was last year, especially with that much luck, (BABIP of .458), but somewhere in the middle projects well for him.

I don't see how unless one was attached to Octavio Dotel or (God-forbid) Bobby "Black Hole of Suck" Crosby, that you could conclude the Pirates did any worse than good. They got rid of market value, (which unless you're paying them below market value, they're not really all that valuable to a team), players producing either league average, or heavily below league average levels, and replaced them with prospects that've soured elsewhere, but are still young enough to have upside.

I always thought DePodesta got screwed over by the Dodgers. The brought him in, hardly gave him anytime to overhaul the organization, a great portion of the organization fought with him every step of the way while he tried to do it, and when he didn't get immediate results they got rid of him. It was like they expected him to magically make stuff better by his mere presence because he was Beane's protégé when in reality it takes years to set up an efficiently run system and get the right personnel and players in place and it takes year to get rid of the personnel and players that hurt the organization. That's to say nothing of the fact it would have taken years just to change the culture of the Dodger organization alone.

There's no question in my mind that DePodesta got the short end of that stick. McCourt at the time was far more hands-on than he is now, (I'm sure some of that stems from his impending divorce settlement), however DePodesta actually had a solid core of young players coming up, which went to shit as soon as Colletti stepped in. I am to this day dumbfounded that Dodgers fans haven't called for his firing at all. Colletti is easily the second worst GM in baseball.

Twins lead the MLB in team batting average at .283 and they're not even used to or able to hit dongs in the new Target Field.

Repeat after me:

Batting average is an absolutely meaningless statistic, and provides no pertinent information about a player or team's performance.

The Twins are third in the AL in OPS, and are Slugging .434, which means that while Target Field isn't a great home run park, it's definitely spacious enough to be a hitter's park.



Bill Simmons has a pretty solid essay on ESPN.com about baseball and the Red Sox this year...

I'd offer a linky but...:sleep: too lazy to...

I can't believe how fucking annoying that guy has become. First with the bandwagoning with metrics, then his incessant "All Red Sox" corner, that guy is nothing more than a babbling meat head who'll do anything to make his team look good.
 
Can MLB force McCourt to sell the team? It's obvious he has no interest in building a contending team. He was lucky that 3 or 4 guys panned out, otherwise the team would be the KC Royals. Torre is gone after this year, he did a good job considering he had to deal with the McCourts. And Manny, thanks for an excellent year and a half, but GTFO.

On the other hand, how can you blame McCourt? People show up to the ballpark every night to watch mediocre baseball anyway, why fix what ain't broken?
 
Can MLB force McCourt to sell the team? It's obvious he has no interest in building a contending team. He was lucky that 3 or 4 guys panned out, otherwise the team would be the KC Royals. Torre is gone after this year, he did a good job considering he had to deal with the McCourts. And Manny, thanks for an excellent year and a half, but GTFO.

On the other hand, how can you blame McCourt? People show up to the ballpark every night to watch mediocre baseball anyway, why fix what ain't broken?

MLB would have to be able to prove that McCourt is either bankrupt, or that he's breaking laws for them to even begin to look at taking him out of the picture, that is to say, no they can't just take the team away. It's a tough case to say he doesn't care about building a team, considering how much money he spends to field the team they have.

The one major thing you can put on McCourt is firing Paul DePodesta, probably the dumbest move he's made. Ned Colleti is a terrible GM, and has absolutely destroyed the foundation DePodesta left.
 
shayd for the Pirates they where great deals and yes they trade players with no long term future for some promise since most of them are 27 or less but Synder was acquired because he actually plays defense unlike Domuit. McDonald doesn't have to pitch any better than average to be an improvement over other Pirate 4th and 5th starters and Lambo might work out if his head is straight. still given most of the Pirates trade these are all postives for them.oh yes i now the numbers but i've seen the Pirates screw up talent before

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