Minneapolis bridge collapse
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Yeah just left my ******* who lives in Minneapolis a message on his phone in case he has not heard.He would still be at work I think,I hope.
Just got off with him so thats good.Says they haven't much info yet,but this is huge there, as this is biggest crossing of river.
Just got off with him so thats good.Says they haven't much info yet,but this is huge there, as this is biggest crossing of river.
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They were working on it, have been all summer news just said.Its probably 40 years old,its part of the original interstate.Supposedly it was bumper to bumper with lots of pedestrians and bikes on it.This will turn out to be very bad I fear.
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Its still being called a "recovery". Many ******** that were on a bus were found alive and taken to the hospital. Many others plucked from the water alive and many "walking wounded" they called them finding their own way to the hospitals in the chaos. Others citizens helping of course. Its a miracle anyone survived.
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At around 10:30 PM local time, they had to call off the search for the night. There are submerged cars they have not yet gotten to, and it was reported on my news that they don't expect any more survivors from the scene itself...last death toll I heard was only 8, but they said there was a very good chance it would rise.
PS-I know for a fact that around where I live 40 years old for a bridge is nothing...this collapse, IMO was not simply because the bridge was old as some reports seem to suggest. Here in NJ, we have many bridges over 50 years old and even some dating back to the 20s and 30s...I suspect that a combination of lack of maintenance, increases in traffic, and to a much lesser extent, age are the culprits here.
PS-I know for a fact that around where I live 40 years old for a bridge is nothing...this collapse, IMO was not simply because the bridge was old as some reports seem to suggest. Here in NJ, we have many bridges over 50 years old and even some dating back to the 20s and 30s...I suspect that a combination of lack of maintenance, increases in traffic, and to a much lesser extent, age are the culprits here.
And the PEs who signed off on it are going to be roasted, if not criminally charged (negligence) at some point.
Unless they can prove that someone else was guilty of not following statues.
It shocks me they were repairing a bridge before it was inspected?!
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"The bridge had been inspected by the Minnesota Department of Transportation in 2005 and 2006 and no immediate structural problems were noted, Gov. Tim Pawlenty said Wednesday.
"There were some ***** things that needed attention," he said. "They notified us from an engineering standpoint the deck might need to be rehabilitated or replaced in 2020 or beyond."
A federal database, however, showed the 40-year-old bridge had been rated as "structurally deficient" in 2005 and possibly in need of replacement, the Star Tribune reported citing the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Bridge Inventory.
"We've seen it, and we are very familiar with it," Jeanne Aamodt, a spokeswoman for the Minnesota Department of Transportation, said of the 2005 assessment. She noted that many other bridges around the country carry the same designation that the I-35W bridge received, and she declined to say what the agency was going to do to address the deficiencies found in 2005. "
I heard on TV 50,000 bridges have been deemed "structurally deficient" as this one had,but that would not mean it was deemed unsafe.I also heard that economically it is not feasible to replace all this aging infrastrucure and that it comes down to wait for it to collapse then it will be replaced.The road work was just repaving and is not beleived to be the cause of the collapse.We need to invest in our infrastructure in my opinion instead of more tax cuts or excessive spending on the military.
"The bridge had been inspected by the Minnesota Department of Transportation in 2005 and 2006 and no immediate structural problems were noted, Gov. Tim Pawlenty said Wednesday.
"There were some ***** things that needed attention," he said. "They notified us from an engineering standpoint the deck might need to be rehabilitated or replaced in 2020 or beyond."
A federal database, however, showed the 40-year-old bridge had been rated as "structurally deficient" in 2005 and possibly in need of replacement, the Star Tribune reported citing the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Bridge Inventory.
"We've seen it, and we are very familiar with it," Jeanne Aamodt, a spokeswoman for the Minnesota Department of Transportation, said of the 2005 assessment. She noted that many other bridges around the country carry the same designation that the I-35W bridge received, and she declined to say what the agency was going to do to address the deficiencies found in 2005. "
I heard on TV 50,000 bridges have been deemed "structurally deficient" as this one had,but that would not mean it was deemed unsafe.I also heard that economically it is not feasible to replace all this aging infrastrucure and that it comes down to wait for it to collapse then it will be replaced.The road work was just repaving and is not beleived to be the cause of the collapse.We need to invest in our infrastructure in my opinion instead of more tax cuts or excessive spending on the military.
There was a steam line that exploded in NYC a few weeks ago.Poor guy in his pick-up truck got 3rd degree burns.The line had been put in back in the 20s.They say we couldn't build the city today or even replace the aging stuff due to the cost.Its all going to become bigger issue as time passes.We might have to abandon the cities someday as old and unsafe lol.
I know of a Con Ed worker that died that way.
A similar situation occurred in Montreal a while back
maildude
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Yeah. I was living in Toronto when that happened. Lots of news coverage. I suppose bridge inspections ought to be a top priority now.
