Mammoth-******* comet questioned

A study of wildfires after the last ice age has cast doubt on the theory that a giant comet impact wiped out woolly mammoths and prehistoric humans.

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I still think that a comet ****** the dinosaurs and everything else all those years ago. I haven't heard any other reason that fits the event better.
 
the theory is that around 13,000 years ago a comet may have struck or ****** on low orbit of the earth, resulting in a massive explosion that triggered wild fires to spread across 90% of the continent on North America. It has recently been proven that a comet had struck the earth around 150-200 years ago in Russia and it annihilated like a 100 square mile area, so it could be that people are looking more closely at comet-related phenomena.

This theory is based on the fact that scientists found black ash in the sedimentary layer for that time period at various different locations, and that a group of prehistoric people called the Clovis cease to have any archeological evidence proceeding that period. Also I guess that is supposedly around the time that Mammoth went extinct, although I hadn't heard that linked to this theory before.

The new theory suggests that all these events might have been caused by the natural cycle of climate change that was happening then at the end of the ice age. From what I read in the article, neither of the theories are really conclusive and they are just different explanations of the evidence.

from the article said:
The problem, Professor Scott says, is that the impact hypothesis has made many people focus on just one page of the sedimentary history book: the layer from 12,900 years ago.

"When you concentrate on one layer so intensely, you find all sorts of things which you think are unique," he added.

Richard Firestone, commenting on the work, does not believe it presents a serious challenge to the impact theory - in fact, he argues that they are in agreement.

"Their data is too low resolution to say much about what happened 12,900 years ago," he told BBC News.

"The paper merely shows that fires increased near the onset of the Younger Dryas and continued for some time. These results are in complete agreement with what we observed."
 
Diamonds offer 'final proof' that a comet wiped out the mammoth.
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High amounts of iridium were discovered under both the Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico; these layers were deposited around the time of a smaller mass extinction.

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Hmmm.
 
good links Will E. it's pretty crazy to think that we really haven't proven that a comet or an asteroid was the cause of dinosaur extinction. That is the best theory, and it's the one that every layman thinks is correct, but we can't say for sure.
 
Sounds like we're mixing up our dinos with our mammoths....:D

There are two events:

(1) The demise of the dinosaurs is linked to Premium Link Upgrade :

Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event - Alvarez hypothesis

In 1980, a team of researchers led by Nobel-prize-winning physicist Luis Alvarez, his ***, geologist Walter Alvarez, and a group of colleagues discovered that fossilized sedimentary layers found all over the world at the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary, 65.5 million years ago contain a concentration of iridium hundreds of times greater than normal. The end of the Cretaceous coincided with the end of the dinosaurs. It was in general a period of extraordinary mass extinction, leading to the Tertiary Period of the Cenozoic Era, in which mammals came to dominate on Earth. The paper suggested that the dinosaurs had been ****** off by the impact of a ten-kilometer-wide asteroid on Earth (see impact event). Two facts supporting this conclusion are that

  • iridium is relatively abundant in many asteroids, and
  • the isotopic composition of iridium in K-T layers resembles that of asteroids more closely than that of terrestrial iridium.
Iridium is very rare on Earth's surface, but much more common in the Earth's interior as well as in extraterrestrial objects, such as asteroids and comets. Furthermore, chromium isotopic anomalies are found in Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary sediments which strongly supports the impact theory and suggests that the impactor must have been an asteroid or a comet composed of material similar to carbonaceous chondrites.

The resulting blast would have been hundreds of millions of times more devastating than the most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated, may have created a hurricane of unimaginable fury, and certainly would have thrown massive amounts of dust and vapor into the upper atmosphere and even into space.

A global firestorm may have resulted as the incendiary fragments from the blast fell back to Earth. Analyses of fluid inclusions in ancient amber suggest that the oxygen (O2) content of the atmosphere was very high (30 - 35%) during the late Cretaceous. This high O2 atmospheric content would have supported massive combustion. The level of atmospheric O2 plummeted in the early Tertiary.

In addition, the worldwide cloud would have ****** off sunlight for months, resulting in a darkness that prevented photosynthesis and depleting food resources. During this interval of reduced sunlight a "long winter" may have also been involved in the extinction. Gradually skies cleared but greenhouse gases from the impact caused an increase in temperature for many years.

The impact target rocks also produced acid rains that would have inflicted further hardship on the environment, but recent work suggests this was relatively *****. Chemical buffers would have reduced the effect, and survival of ******* prone to acid rain damage (such as frogs) indicate this was not a major contributor to extinction (see Kring, D.A. GSA Today v. 10, no.8).

Although further studies of the K-T layer consistently showed the excess of iridium, the idea that the dinosaurs were exterminated by an asteroid remained a matter of controversy among geologists and paleontologists for over a decade.


Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event - Chicxulub crater

One problem with the "Alvarez hypothesis" (as it came to be known) was that no documented crater matched the event. This was not a lethal blow to the theory; although the crater resulting from the impact would have been 150 to 200 kilometers in diameter, Earth's geological processes tend to hide or destroy craters over time. The discovery by Alan R. Hildebrand and Glen Penfield of a crater buried under Chicxulub in the Yucatan as well as various types of debris in North America and Haiti have lent credibility to this theory (see Chicxulub Crater). Most paleontologists now agree that an asteroid did hit the Earth 65 million years ago, but many dispute whether the impact was the sole cause of the extinctions.


Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event - Deccan traps

Several paleontologists remained skeptical about the impact theory, as their reading of the fossil record suggested that the mass extinctions did not take place over a period as short as a few years, but instead occurred gradually over about ten million years, a time frame more consistent with longer term events such as massive volcanism. Several scientists think the extensive volcanic activity in India known as the Deccan Traps may have been responsible for, or contributed to, the extinction. A partial reason for the rejection of the impact theory may have been a certain general distrust of a group of physicists intruding into the paleontologists' domain of expertise.

Luis Alvarez, who died in 1988, replied that paleontologists were being misled by sparse data. His assertion did not go over well at first, but later intensive field studies of fossil beds lent weight to his claim. Eventually, most paleontologists began to accept the idea that the mass extinctions at the end of the Cretaceous were largely or at least partly due to a massive Earth impact. However, even Walter Alvarez has acknowledged that there were other major changes on Earth even before the impact, such as a drop in sea level and massive volcanic eruptions in India (Deccan Traps sequence), and these may have contributed to the extinctions.

A very large impact crater has been recently reported in the sea floor off the west coast of India 2. This, the Shiva crater (450/600 km diam.), has also been dated at about 65 million years at the K-T boundary. The researchers suggest that the impact may have been the triggering event for the Deccan Traps. However, this feature has not yet been accepted by the geologic community as an impact crater and may just be a sinkhole depression caused by salt withdrawal.


Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event - Multiple impact event

Several other craters also appear to have been formed at the K-T boundary. This suggests the possibility of near simultaneous multiple impacts from perhaps a fragmented asteroidal object, similar to the Shoemaker-Levy 9 cometary impact with Jupiter.

  • Boltysh crater (24 km diam., 65.17 ± 0.64 Ma old) in Ukraine
  • Silverpit crater (20 km diam., 60-65 Ma old) in the North Sea
  • Eagle Butte crater (10 km diam., < 65 Ma old) in Alberta, Canada
  • Vista Alegre crater (9.5 km diam., < 65 Ma old) in Paraná State, Brazil
Note: Ma means million years.


Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event - Supernova hypothesis

Another proposed cause for the K-T extinction event was cosmic radiation from a relatively nearby supernova explosion. The iridium anomaly at the boundary could support this hypothesis. The fallout from a supernova explosion should contain the plutonium isotope Pu-244, the longest-lived plutonium isotope (half-life 81 Myr), that is not found in earth rocks. However, analysis of the boundary layer sediments revealed the absence of Pu-244, thus essentially disproving this hypothesis.

(2) Whereas the death of mammoths in North America is linked to this theory:

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A controversial new idea suggests that a large space rock exploded over North America 13,000 years ago.
The blast may have wiped out one of America's first Stone Age cultures as well as the continent's big mammals such as the mammoth and the mastodon.

The blast, from a comet or asteroid, caused a major bout of climatic cooling which may also have affected human cultures emerging in Europe and Asia.
 
Well I thought there were 3 exact reasons why they died off
Climate change, **** effect of humans, and Disease

Still like the mix of all 3 reasons
 
good links Will E. it's pretty crazy to think that we really haven't proven that a comet or an asteroid was the cause of dinosaur extinction. That is the best theory, and it's the one that every layman thinks is correct, but we can't say for sure.

You're welcome. I think there was a mass extinction that was caused by an asteroid/ meteorite. There are too many craters around the world for something not to have happened. Also, the high amounts of iridium discovered under both the Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico.

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Sling-shots and spears don't **** mammoths.... comets do!

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And...Pygmies don't **** elephants. ;)
 
I saw it in that movie 30 million BC so it must be true.
 
'Dwarf' Mammoths May Have Put Off Demise.

Three Russian scientists have turned up evidence that a race of "dwarf" mammoths, cut off from the rest of the world on a remote Arctic island, survived the extinction of all other mammoths by up to 6,000 years, living on into comparatively recent times.

The scientists' conclusion came after the discovery of 29 complete but very small mammoth teeth, as well as many tooth and bone fragments, on Wrangel Island, a Russian possession in the Arctic. By analysis of proportions of carbon isotopes in the teeth, the scientists determined that the teeth were 7,000 to 4,000 years old, which is far younger than any previously known mammoth fossils.

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