Loose Change - What Do You All Think?

[BlueBalls]

Is David Chandler a structural engineer?
Is he currently considered an expert in his particular field?
Does he have any substantial research on this topic published in peer reviewed journals?

No?

Alrighty then....

 

[Trident1]

The AA 757 basically broke into tiny pieces. It's parts were found outside and inside the Pentagon. End of story.

The engines did not disappear. They were located in the building. Weren't they Rolls Royce engines?



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Yes they were RR engines.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

The engines did not disappear. They were located in the building. Weren't they Rolls Royce engines?



WTC, how much ***** would a skyscraper generate when collapsing in on itself? Answer - more than an explosive charge used to sever columns would. Moreover, such charges are designed and positioned to focus destructive power inwards in order to to shear and displace metal, not outwards to blow columns into the street!



Beyond any doubt? That doesn't sound very scientific to me.

Well you are completely wrong. Also funny you know they're Rolls Royce engines. Did you actually watch Loose Change? The engines that disappeared were at the Pentagon. They never left imprints in the building entry hole either.

As far as the collapse goes a collapsing building isn't going to shoot columns from it's inner core blocks away into other buildings, sorry try again.

 

[Shifty]

Well you are completely wrong. Also funny you know they're Rolls Royce engines. Did you actually watch Loose Change? The engines that disappeared were at the Pentagon. They never left imprints in the building entry hole either.

I'm being reasonable.

I already mentioned that I have watched Loose Change (did you miss that?). I've watched several documentaries (both pro and anti conspiracy) about 911. This is how my ideas have come to be. I have not relied on a single source like you are.

Read what is being written: the plane disintegrated. The wings of the plane were not intact when the plane hit the building. You're assuming that the wings remained intact and you're expecting to see two holes where the engines 'should' have been. The engines were found in the building with what was left of the plane.

As far as the collapse goes a collapsing building isn't going to shoot columns from it's inner core blocks away into other buildings, sorry try again.

But it did. Prove otherwise. The video you've posted proves nothing. It is an opinion - nothing more and nothing less.

Quite honestly, in my opinion, referring back to this one sensational documentary repeatedly is making you look immature and silly.

 

[Trident1]

Read what is being written: the plane disintegrated. The wings of the plane were not intact when the plane hit the building. You're assuming that the wings remained intact and you're expecting to see two holes where the engines 'should' have been. The engines were found in the building with what was left of the plane.



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I get a kick out of people who nothing about aviation accidents make all these insane theories about what should've happened on 9/11. I can personally pick apart every aviation related theory of theirs.



Shifty you're correct that the AA 757 disintegrated upon impact. Most of the wreckage was found inside the fortress built Pentagon, carried inside by forward momentum. Small fragments of the fuselage skin (with AA airlines logo/colors painted upon them) were found on the outside and photographed.

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

I get a kick out of people who nothing about aviation accidents make all these insane theories about what should've happened on 9/11. I can personally pick apart every aviation related theory of theirs.



Shifty you're correct that the AA 757 disintegrated upon impact. Most of the wreckage was found inside the fortress built Pentagon, carried inside by forward momentum. Small fragments of the fuselage skin (with AA airlines logo/colors painted upon them) were found on the outside and photographed.

Again you lie! There were no engines found at the Pentagon. First time in aviation history! We are told they vaporized on impact. You believe that?

Those pieces they found on the lawn were not charred and looked like they were placed by hand for a photo op. No skidding on the grass either.

 

[Trident1]

Again you lie! There were no engines found at the Pentagon. First time in aviation history! We are told they vaporized on impact. You believe that?

Those pieces they found on the lawn were not charred and looked like they were placed by hand for a photo op. No skidding on the grass either.

Sorry sir but parts of the RR engines were found inside as well as the main landing gear struts.

Of course bits of the aluminum fuselage skin were found outside right where one would expect some debris from an aircraft impacting a building or other structure.



I really wish you had some knowledge of aviation and aviation accidents. Sadly you and your cohorts have none.

 

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[WTC7WasPulled]

Sorry sir but parts of the RR engines were found inside as well as the main landing gear struts.

Of course bits of the aluminum fuselage skin were found outside right where one would expect some debris from an aircraft impacting a building or other structure.



I really wish you had some knowledge of aviation and aviation accidents. Sadly you and your cohorts have none.

Are so some kind of paid disinfo blogger or something? They said there were no engines found, they are massive and they were never shown, photographed, looked at etc.

No black boxes either from the twin towers. Those are indestructible.

Also it doesn't matter who is narrating the video below. Hell I could narrate it. It just shows what you see in slow mo and goes over the details. Watch it again if you haven't yet. Also the best way to do it is to click on the video to open the actual YouTube page so you can go full screen with it.

 

[robbied196]

Where there is doubt, the question is always, who gains?

 

[BlueBalls]

Are so some kind of paid disinfo blogger or something?

Wow, you play conspiracy nut job so well. Someone doesn't agree with you, automatically paint them as some sort of shill for the conspirators.

What a complete joke.

Also it doesn't matter who is narrating the video below. Hell I could narrate it. It just shows what you see in slow mo and goes over the details.

It doesn't matter? I've been to Mr Chandler's website, this is no unknowing narrator, this is a man who fundamentally believes in the information he is spreading. Is it not logical to ask what qualifications and expertise he holds in order to have made such an educated statement before we just believe his word outright? No of course not, because you agree with him and it doesn't matter what qualifications he holds because he agrees with you and you're right.

Lord you conspiracy idiots become more like creationists everyday.

 

[Master Roshi]

at least this thread has got people thinking and discussing and questioning which is always good

 

[Trident1]

Are so some kind of paid disinfo blogger or something? They said there were no engines found, they are massive and they were never shown, photographed, looked at etc.

Yes engine parts were found and photographed from AA 77.

So what if the black boxes were never found at the WTC? We all know what happened. The fact that they were not found does not mean a conspiracy.
This isn't even a discussion.

 

[TheOrangeCat]

No black boxes either from the twin towers. Those are indestructible.

Wrong.

"A common misconception states that the black boxes are "indestructible." No manmade device is indestructible, and no material has ever been developed that cannot be destroyed under severe enough conditions."

This is from Aerospaceweb.org, a site run by aerospace engineers and scientists.

Now either they are in on your grand conspiracy too, or else you are wrong. And if that little piece of the straw scaffolding blows away ......

 

[STDiva]

I actually feel sad for this guy. He wants to believe in this so bad, he is ignoring all the facts presented to him. Poor, poor man.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Maybe if he keeps it up the Men in Black will come knocking on his door.

 

[shayd]

Maybe if he keeps it up the Men in Black will come knocking on his door.

I'm thinking this guy is more likely.


Also the tags are fucking amazing.

 

[TheOrangeCat]

I actually feel sad for this guy. He wants to believe in this so bad, he is ignoring all the facts presented to him. Poor, poor man.

Careful - public mocking only fuel the paranoia that THEY are out to get him, and now you and we are part of THEM ....(cue Twilight Zone music)

Maybe if he keeps it up the Men in Black will come knocking on his door.

Oh, I bet there have already been several abductions followed by violent probings ....

I'm thinking this guy is more likely.

The guy in this photo makes me want to run home and hold my Mommy tight ...

 

[WTC7WasPulled]

I actually feel sad for this guy. He wants to believe in this so bad, he is ignoring all the facts presented to him. Poor, poor man.

Ok I really wish you would tell me specific fact I am ignoring. Are you ignoring free fall collapse? Are you ignoring reports of bombs and explosions going off all over before the collapses? Are you ignoring the fact Building 7 was never hit by a plane and had only a few small fires before collapsing into its own footprint at free fall speed?

I don't think I'm the one ignoring facts here.

 

[domshooter]

Ok I really wish you would tell me specific fact I am ignoring. Are you ignoring free fall collapse? Are you ignoring reports of bombs and explosions going off all over before the collapses? Are you ignoring the fact Building 7 was never hit by a plane and had only a few small fires before collapsing into its own footprint at free fall speed?

I don't think I'm the one ignoring facts here.

so, your denying that 7 was critically damaged by falling debris from the towers? because, there actually are some pictures and video of that. so, that coupled with numerous fires could definitely bring down a building