Re: Katerina Hartlova / Kathy Kozy / Katrin / Snow / Katarina Dubrova
Exactly. Even the so-called female or couple-friendly porn often caters to masochistic fantasies of women. The problem is cheap porn producers like Torbe don't have the means to degrade and humiliate in a lavish fashion.
Really? So the whole concept of erotica is just something that "exploits" some sort of false idea of "mutual consent"?
This is what I don't understand. Some of you guys enjoy pornography, but then constantly complain about it. You want it, but want to blast it, and everyone else for it, even if they don't "enjoy" it like you do. Many of you use degrading terms, because you enjoy doing so. That's not what all of us do, let alone many see that not being about pornography, but just degrading people in general. You call it destructive, and only add to it. All the meanwhile, you miss the obviousness of the truth.
As a consumer you could easily demand pornography where sex is consensual, and something the female starlet is comfortable with. If more consumers were demanding such, then it would be more mainstream. It would be erotica and more art than degrading or, worse yet, violent. The latter is just using pornography as an excuse. The former is just illustrating and capturing normal, human animal instinct on-film, while ensuring the full participation and consent of all actors or actresses involved.
One is outcast, catering to non-sexual matters in a sexual format. The other is natural, and there's nothing wrong with it. Pornography can and should be about consent and pleasure, not using sex as an excuse for something that has little to do with sex.
Furthermore, porn actresses fuck for cash also off camera as a rule of thumb, which is not the best kept secret in the industry. So, the next time you see a slut get humiliated in a video, just think that it may actually be not the worst she's ever had.
Association after association after association. There is no "rule of thumb" on drugs, escorting and other things.
If anything, intercourse in a controlled environment, whether it is a monogamous or limited polygamous relationship or a regularly STD tested industry, is "safer" than random, promiscuous sex. Is it foolproof? Hardly. But STD infection rates are lower in controlled environments than not.
I am sure Katerina has had some poor experiences she did not enjoy. Various publication houses and others who shoot sometimes cater to newer, unsuspecting starlets. That is a problem, I don't disagree. But it looks like Katerina has more recently settled into a monogamous relationship, shooting with her boyfriend, in a more controlled environment.
Of course, starlets in monogamous relationships tend to get a whole new series of complaints from some of you guys, caring little for the comfort and peace of the starlet herself. So it adds to the self-fulling prophecy that "porn is bad, don't do porn." Yet you still want it, and you want it in ways that are degrading or otherwise having little to do with the nature of mutual consent and the act itself, but underlying issues unrelated to sex.
So the industry serves the paying consumer. This is the result, even if some consumers do not want it. You can't legislate it away. You can only change by saying so with your paying dollar. So far the default attitude of treating pornography as unhealthy results in people considering it outcast, so most of the paying consumers are looking for outcast stuff. If it was far more mainstream, and more people paying to see consensual sex, then pornography would be viewed completely different.
The problem is how people and society as a whole approach pornography, not that pornography itself is "bad." Ironically this is not too much different than politics. We blame our leaders for how we argue and vote, yet the results are entirely based on partisan politics instead of focusing on the issues, something too many of us condone, even if indirectly. The issues with pornography have little to do with filming a natural act such as sex, but how the common consumer, like the common voter, approaches it, as herded sheep, even if indirectly.
Right now I feel some of the hottest pornography is by Conny Lior. There is no creature more beautiful than a woman at total peace while experiencing increasing pleasure, with her lover. She's not even my favorite type of looker or body, and yet, she glows like she is the best starlet ever. Hmmm, might have something to do with her comfort level perhaps?
even she's such a beauty...
