It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not race.

[HELLRAISER]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

When generic Conservative TeaBaggers say they are against "Big Government" what they really mean to say by this is that they're against our government's regulation of our corporate masters who want the green light to pollute and steal as much as they can from us

 

[emceeemcee]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

and thats wrong?

it's total bullshit for some self-righteous free market loon to deny the basics to a community that has been, and continues to be at less of an advantage on the social ladder.

typical mentality of the closet racist.

You just wanted to the first to throw out the charge of 'racist!' before anybody could :1orglaugh

Too bad it isn't enough to claim the moral high ground that way, especially when you've just:

a)demonstrated your ignorance of the fact than an age of racism leaves certain ethnic groups at a distinct social disadvantage

b)proposed stripping even more away from this group

here you go darky, here's some lifelong financial support because youre just too stupid to make it without us good hearted white folks helpin ya out.

And presumably that makes you Florence Nightingale for preventing them from accessing the assistance which guarantees a basic standard of living?

It's a curious position to see people behaving as if depriving someone of their dignity is an act of generosity.

 

[emceeemcee]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

When generic Conservative TeaBaggers say they are against "Big Government" what they really mean to say by this is that they're against our government's regulation of our corporate masters who want the green light to pollute and steal as much as they can from us

I don't think they know what they mean. I think many are just pretty deluded, selfish individuals who like to project their neuroses onto others.

 

[emceeemcee]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

here you go darky, here's some lifelong financial support because youre just too stupid to make it without us good hearted white folks helpin ya out.

and why do you free market worshippers think welfare=lifelong financial support?


are the notions of genuinely unemployed people out of work needing assistance until they find a job or disabled people incapable of working, completely beyond your level of comprehension?

can you actually name a welfare state on this planet where it's possible to sit pretty on the government cheese from cradle to grave for no reason other than 'just cos you want to'?

 

[Trident1]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

here you go darky, here's some lifelong financial support because youre just too stupid to make it without us good hearted white folks helpin ya out.

the media will do all they can to hurt the teaparty people because the media is part of the monster that just keeps growing and growing and needs more and more money to sustain it.

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x2. You nailed it.:glugglug:

 

[PlumpRump]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

and why do you free market worshippers think welfare=lifelong financial support?...

Because research done by the Congressional Budget Office seems to think so, too:

-The 4.7 million families currently receiving Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) have already spent, on average, six-and-a-half years on welfare.
-When past and estimated future receipt of AFDC are combined, the estimated average length of stay on AFDC, among those families currently receiving benefits, is an astonishing 13 years.
-Among the 4.7 million families currently receiving AFDC, over 90 percent will spend over two years on the AFDC caseload. More than three quarters will spend over five years on AFDC.

So, say an individual welfare recipient lives to be 75 years old, on average, they will have spent nearly 20%, 1/4, nearly 15 years, of their lives on welfare. That's not at all troubling to you?


Also, there seems to be a direct, negative correlation between welfare receipt, IQ, proclivity towards criminal behavior and capacity towards earnings and employment:

-Recent research by the Congressional Budget Office shows that increasing the length of time a child spends on welfare may reduce the child's IQ by as much as 20 percent.
-Welfare receipt as a child has a negative effect on the earnings and employment capacity of young men. The more welfare income received by a boy's family during his childhood, the lower will be the boy's earnings as an adult, even when compared to boys in families with identical non-welfare income.
-Receipt of welfare and living in a single-parent family during childhood are strongly associated with criminal activity among young men and having illegitimate children among young women.

A similar study by Mary Corcoran and Roger Gordon of the University of Michigan shows that receipt of welfare income has negative effects on the long-term employment and earnings capacity of young boys. The study shows that, holding constant race, parental education, family structure, and a range of other social variables, higher non-welfare income obtained by the family during a boy's childhood was associated with higher earnings when the boy became an adult (over age 25). However, welfare income had the opposite effect: The more welfare income received by a family while a boy was growing, up the lower the boy's earnings as an adult.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1995/12/bg1063nbsp-why-congress-must-reform-welfare


I'm not of the opinion that welfare is unnecessary, or that everyone involved in welfare receipt is undeserving, or that everyone on welfare is out to play they system and milk it for all they can, but without an incentive to find gainful employment, a decent percentage of these people are doing harm to themselves and their children long-term, economically speaking. Essentially free-riding their way to creating a culture where generation after generation of their family will be welfare recipients. To not see at least the need for strict reform is so short sighted. And to package your argument for welfare without reform as a philanthropic one is doing more harm than good.

 

[Bearded_Menace]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

Because research done by the Congressional Budget Office seems to think so, too:

So, say an individual welfare recipient lives to be 75 years old, on average, they will have spent nearly 20%, 1/4, nearly 15 years, of their lives on welfare. That's not at all troubling to you?


Also, there seems to be a direct, negative correlation between welfare receipt, IQ, proclivity towards criminal behavior and capacity towards earnings and employment:



http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1995/12/bg1063nbsp-why-congress-must-reform-welfare


I'm not of the opinion that welfare is unnecessary, or that everyone involved in welfare receipt is undeserving, or that everyone on welfare is out to play they system and milk it for all they can, but without an incentive to find gainful employment, a decent percentage of these people are doing harm to themselves and their children long-term, economically speaking. Essentially free-riding their way to creating a culture where generation after generation of their family will be welfare recipients. To not see at least the need for strict reform is so short sighted. And to package your argument for welfare without reform as a philanthropic one is doing more harm than good.

Interesting article. If you let the extreme right wingers tell you about welfare, you'd expect the numbers to be near 70 or 80 million because all blacks and mexicans are on welfare

 

[Facetious]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

When generic Conservative TeaBaggers say they are against "Big Government" what they really mean to say by this is that they're against our government's regulation of our corporate masters who want the green light to pollute and steal as much as they can from us

Doesn't it ever bother you when your government master millionaires (both R & D) often steal money out of the till?



It's amazing how offensive some people get whenever somebody else suggests that we should all learn to carry our own weight in this world, it's like telling somebody with a drug problem . . . well, they have a drug problem!

:dunno:

 

[Facetious]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

Thats comparing apples to oranges.

Regardless of size or political affiliation, both the Tea Party and La Raza are political activist groups, no?

La Raza makes no bones about they are speaking for hispanics

Oh, La Raza is also a very tight knit racially puritanical left wing org as well, how they're allowed to carry on as they do is just more political pandering and hypocrisy on the part of the part of the democratic party.

while the tea party tries to make out they are not just speaking for one group.

Elaborate . . .

Also La Raza is not seen as a significant political force that is trying to vie for rule in the US like the tea party is.

You're correct, they are not seen as a significant politcal force, do you think that the msm is ever going to expose them and their ''take over the west by sheer numbers'' message any time soon?

When you hear things from the tea party types like "take our country back" we know exactly what they mean.Back from those minoritiesis what they mean and that means they would like the overwhelming white supremecy we saw 50 years ago.They of course have no chance of that but are still a danger and hindrence to progress all the same.

:error: Is this what they're filling your heads with over at CPUSA? How shameful of them, I'm not one bit surprised.
Listen, you make mention of "White Supremacy we saw 50 years ago" Really? You were born at a time when this nation was being ruled by "white supremacists"? That's such an extremely radical view of our history, I'd actually keep that one to yourself and your like minded comrades if you expect to be taken seriously.

In closing, it is apparent that you define progress the same as I would define regression and repression. :dunno:

Gotta go

:back to our regular scheduled programming:

 

[titsrock]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

Jesse Ventura: Sarah Palin Is 'A Quitter,' 'Unqualified'

Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura had harsh words for his fellow former Governor Sarah Palin recently, when he called her an "unqualified" "quitter" who had "screw[ed] the people of Alaska."

Talking to Fancast, the one-time professional wrestler and Independent-turned-conspiracy-theorist said that Sarah Palin was the reason he couldn't get behind the Tea Party movement.

"Anybody that would put Sarah Palin to the top of their list will never get me," Ventura told Fancast about the former vice presidential candidate. "She's a quitter...She quit in the middle of her term. That's the contract you have with the voters."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/16/jesse-ventura-sarah-palin_n_764658.html

:flame::wave2:

 

[Facetious]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

Jesse Ventura: Sarah Palin Is 'A Quitter,' 'Unqualified'

Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura had harsh words for his fellow former Governor Sarah Palin recently, when he called her an "unqualified" "quitter" who had "screw[ed] the people of Alaska."

Talking to Fancast, the one-time professional wrestler and Independent-turned-conspiracy-theorist said that Sarah Palin was the reason he couldn't get behind the Tea Party movement.

"Anybody that would put Sarah Palin to the top of their list will never get me," Ventura told Fancast about the former vice presidential candidate. "She's a quitter...She quit in the middle of her term. That's the contract you have with the voters."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/16/jesse-ventura-sarah-palin_n_764658.html

:flame::wave2:

truther :eek:

 

[roronoa3000]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

I guess Bill Cosby is a token too.

ummm....he kind of is.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

while the tea party tries to make out they are not just speaking for one group.

Elaborate

Ok I will elaborate lol.The point of this thread was that the tea party is not just a race based movement and are just speaking for the white majority.I say they are and think many see it that way also who are not sympathetic to the tea party and are turned off by thier rhetoric.As I said La Raza makes no bones about they are speaking for the rights and interests of hispanics just like the NAACP does for blacks.If you don't see minorities as needing such support and understand why such groups exist then we just have not much else to discuss on that matter.:dunno:

Listen, you make mention of "White Supremacy we saw 50 years ago" Really? You were born at a time when this nation was being ruled by "white supremacists"? That's such an extremely radical view of our history, I'd actually keep that one to yourself and your like minded comrades if you expect to be taken seriously.

The view that america was an extreme white supremicist society in 1957 is not a radical view IMO at all.Just look at some of the events of that year and the years that followed.In 1957 the high school in little rock had to be desegragated at the point of bayonets by federal troops.Jim crow laws ruled across the south,blacks were being prohibited from voting etc.., and the years that followed saw beating of freedom riders,the killing of civil rights leaders with the cooperation of the police such as in the movie "mississippi burning" as anyone who knows history is well aware.The images of the violence(fire hoses,beatings with clubs by police or civilans with no police action) that blacks got when they merely asked for equal rights are all part of history that I'm sure you must have seen.
And while such discrimination was more blatant in places like mississippi the rest of the country was actually pretty similar.I know for example where I lived as a kid in NJ while their may have been no written law blacks could not live in my town they could not as real estate people etc would not sell to them.Our idea of diversity was the jewish and Italian familys in the neighborhood.

America was very similar to aparthied South africa and IMO to describe that as I said before as an "extreme white supremicist society" is accurate.

 

[StanScratch]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

They are against republican spenders just as much as democrats. It's just the idiot republicans lost both senate and congress back in '08 because of their massive spending and idiocy, and it has been democrats in since, following the welcoming of Obama and his administration into the fold it all further went downhill.

We are in a continuous loop of idiots in house and presidency. Need to clean house. Get rid of big government, outrageous spending, and high taxes.

Once again, where was this outrage on the their part during the Bush years? Was it a silent protest? Why did the party conveniently form a month after Obama took office?
Answer this, otherwise any claim that this is about big government and spending is complete bullshit.

Jesse Ventura: Sarah Palin Is 'A Quitter,' 'Unqualified'

Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura had harsh words for his fellow former Governor Sarah Palin recently, when he called her an "unqualified" "quitter" who had "screw[ed] the people of Alaska."

Talking to Fancast, the one-time professional wrestler and Independent-turned-conspiracy-theorist said that Sarah Palin was the reason he couldn't get behind the Tea Party movement.

"Anybody that would put Sarah Palin to the top of their list will never get me," Ventura told Fancast about the former vice presidential candidate. "She's a quitter...She quit in the middle of her term. That's the contract you have with the voters."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/16/jesse-ventura-sarah-palin_n_764658.html

:flame::wave2:

Ventura is actually right here.
Let's face it - she was the governor of one of the easiest states of the Union.
Yet, she was incapable of handling it because the media would not leave her alone. If she was unable to carry out this simplistic task, how do her followers believe she will be able to carry out the duties of the POTUS?

 

[jjo_is4]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

Once again, where was this outrage on the their part during the Bush years? Was it a silent protest? Why did the party conveniently form a month after Obama took office?
Answer this, otherwise any claim that this is about big government and spending is complete bullshit.

:clap:

Why didn't they create this tea party under any of the many previous left and right administations that had big government?

Democrat + "Obama" = tea party :2 cents:

 

[raybbaby]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

The "tea party" is ignorant, angry, and afraid. They don't know and refuse to learn about what has gone wrong. Choosing instead to chant empty headed slogans and stomp around in the streets. "We're going to take America back", back from who I wonder? And then what will you do with it? These idiots who scream all day about what a bad thing government is should surely be the last people in charge of it.

 

[titsrock]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

Republicans Struggle To Say How They Would Pay For Tax Cuts (VIDEO)

On Sunday's morning public affairs shows, both Republican Senate candidates Carly Fiorina in California and Ken Buck in Colorado [OP Edit comment: this guy is supposed to be a Tea Bagger] struggled to give specifics about how they would reduce the deficit while also supporting expensive extensions of the Bush tax cuts. Although journalists ask Republicans this question almost without fail in debates and interviews, candidates and lawmakers still consistently stumble over it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/17/republicans-struggle-tax-cuts-pay-spending_n_765654.html

 

[roronoa3000]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

Republicans Struggle To Say How They Would Pay For Tax Cuts (VIDEO)





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/17/republicans-struggle-tax-cuts-pay-spending_n_765654.html

lol, awesome.

 

[Trident1]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703673604575550243700895762.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


Great article and very true.

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: It takes analysis to show that tea party is concerned about big gov't and not rac

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703673604575550243700895762.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


Great article and very true.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Dick Armey

You so crazy "Try.."....Good one tho':clap: