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Alright. Appreciate your thoughts on what went down.
Neither of us will ever know exactly what happened but giving the Obama administrations nonstop lies and deceipt I would warn anybody about believing anything especially with zero proof other than they said its real.

Bin Laden was a CIA asset going back to at least the 80's.
He was used by the US GOV as a proxy to fight the Russians because the US couldn't do it themselves without risking nuclear war.

The Bin Laden ****** has ties to the Bushes going back decades and it was the Bin Laden ****** who bankrolled Zapata Oil.
On 9/11/2001 all the Bin Ladens in the USA were put on planes by the US GOV and flown out.
If they really thought it was Obama why would they do that?

He was sick and dying in 2001 and died shortly after 9/11.
Nobody ****** him in 2011 because he was already dead for 10 years.

Everything Osama did was for the US CIA. He played the boogeyman for them and they used him to freak out the American people and be the catalyst for never ending wars.
1st matter at hand was to take over the Afghanistan opium fields and inundate the US and Europe with heroin.
All together he made The CIA, Pentagon,DHS, ect ect and the entire Military Industrial Complex TRILLIONS of dollars to this day.
So there is the motive for all this.

I know you dont believe it and ok thats fine.
But I'll never understand how people can pick and choose what is true from people they know lie every single day 24/7.
I suppose its because people believe that others have the same morals they do. They don't.
Its all nothing more than the Truman Show.

If you had concrete proof of all of that you could retire young and wealthy.

Just sayin'
 
9/11
19 men armed with boxcutters (6 of whom were later found alive and one was already dead) took over 4 flights filled with people.
Each plane managed to **** all the pilots with those boxcutters right in the cockpit with no fight put up by the pilots who were all former military.
Not even one pilot managed to get out the word Mayday before being ******** with a little razor blade.
No passengers fought these little skinny men on any flight.
And within an hour every lamestream media news knew it was Bin Laden and had photos of every single highjacker.
Damn good journalism there.

They then took control of 4 gigantic airplanes and flew them so well that they managed to avert the most heavily guarded airspace in the world for hours. No Military planes could find them or even got close.

The Twin Towers were both hit by airplanes within a half hour of each other.
Even though they were some of the best built buildings in the world and designed to withstand airplane crashes due to their 50+ vertical solid steal beams from their core to their peak and no amount of jet fuel could have melted them in one zillion years.
But the both fell down within a half hour of each other. Straight down. Not tip over at a weak point, Not into rubble but into dust, steal beams and all.
They did manage to find one of the hijackers passports a few blocks away barely damaged.
I guess he rolled down the window and threw it out before impact.

All the explosions coming from the basement that were heard and seen and actually ****** people were from those planes hundreds of feet above.
Then Building 7 went down later that day after BBC reported it going down. Building 7 was barely on fire yet it collasped straight down into its own footprint.
At no time before or after had any high rise buildings collasped like that in all the world without a controlled demolition. Never, not even once.

Good Thing billioniare Larry Silverstien bought those building just 2 months earlier with just a few hundred grand down and insured them against terrorist attacks for billions which he received.
I guess the Israeli security firm who he hired to take over all security in the buildings was not to blame at all.

But it was all Osama....all Osama.
He did it all even though he denied it ( thought these guys loved taking credit). But then a few years later a younger looking version of himself said, "Ok it was me".
Very soon afterwards the Afghanis or maybe it was Pakistan had Bin Laden.
The US said hand him over.
They said ok but show us some proof.
The US didn't. Better he stay alive to the world to keep the US people freaked out and in support of any US invasion of any Muslim Country for years.
But in 2011 Obama took credit for ******* him to increase his chances of reelection. At that point alive bin laden wasnt really neccessary.
 
They had photos of the hijackers because they were seen on video cameras going through airport check-in and baggage. It was easy to identify them after that. I vividly recall seeing Mohammed Atta and others walking through Logan.

Do you have a food taster with you at all times?
 
No passengers fought these little skinny men on any flight.

They didn't? Remind us again why United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in a remote field in Pennsylvania?

The SEAL that took him out is still alive. He is on Fox News regularly.

Obviously a government stooge. No doubt a crisis actor with an imdb page :rolleyes:

Ok, so what do we have?

Photographs, eyewitness accounts, DNA evidence, his computer(s) and its contents.
 
Re: President Obama giving the order for the operators to go in and **** Bin Laden instead of taking out the site via an air strike.

To his credit and it will go down in history as such, President Obama made an incredibly gutsy call and took an enormous political risk giving the green light to this operation as so many things could have gone wrong as some did. This could've easily been a Desert One debacle or worse.

:hatsoff: to the CINC for that.
 
Ok. I've been proven wrong.
They say its true. It must be true.
Have a nice day.
It was all Osama and Obama ****** him in 2011 and our GOV never lies and is always on the side of good.
Must be nice.
 
isn't islam (even the "moderate" version) everything the left despises about fundamentalist christianity? except islam is horrifically worse in practice when it comes to human rights and the treatment of women, gays and unbelievers? What is a "moderate" muslim's position on gay marriage? abortion? sex outside of marriage?

and yet, many on the left rush to them with open arms.
 
Ok simple question.
There are hundreds of millions , maybe billions of Muslims throughout the entire Middle East and Africa.
Out of those numbers there are what we call radical Muslims with guns and bombs.
They took over most of Iraq after the US invaded and removed the Iraq GOV.
They took over all of Libya pretty much the 1st day the US invaded and took out that GOV.
Obama even said we took out Gaddafi without any "boots on the ground. How did they do that? (And just where did all those hundreds of billions of gold in Libya go anyway?).
Radical Muslims took over Somalia after the US got involved.
They continue to bomb Yemen everyday.
They took over Egypt for a while also.
And they had been attacking Syria for the past few years after the USA demanded Assad leave.
Thats just a partial list.

So let me ask. If this is a "Mindset" that no army can fight and not a bunch of actual armies the are all offshoots of Al-Qaeuda and the Muslim Brotherhood then where do hey get their weapons? Their bombs? Who pays the soldiers?
Who gives them orders and tells them where to go?
This money comes from somewhere and it must be a huge amount.

Why did Russia become the enemy as soon as they started fighting them in Syria?

If anybody can't wrap their mind around the truth, that these soldiers are not religious fanatics who want to **** non muslims then they really can't understand anything about the entire situation from A to Z.
Why if they want to **** non muslims to they only ****** countries that are mostly muslim and are not friends to the USA?
Why non ****** christian countries or at least Arab countries that are friends with the US like Saudi, Qatar, ect?

Its all right there in front of our beautiful faces but yet most people still can't see it.
Mostly due to believing the lies of the US GOV and its controlled media.

These are not religiuos fantatics joined together for a jihad with an apparent endless supply of weapons, soldiers and money.
These are mercenaries paid and armed by someone.
And its not even a secret who is funding them.

Muslims in general are not our enemies.
Do many **** the West? Yes, wouldn't you if the West bombed the hell out of your country or supported the people who did?

So until anybody, anybody here can accept the fact that the "****** groups" are armed and funded by your governments you really are truly clueless on this situation.

Some might use the argument, "Why would our Governments do this. What do they have to gain?".
Well try as an excuse to spend trillions of dollars each year on military, for the Pentagon, the CIA, The DHS, all those creeps feeling you up at the airports who have yet to find an actual terrorist, and an endless number of "security" agencies plus the all those "defense" contractors with multi billion dollar contracts and the businesses that make the bullets, bombs, war machines and equipment right down to the rubber gloves they stick in you bunghole at the airport.

Plus it keeps us Americans and Eurpeans in that mindset that we need all this to "keep us safe".

Lotta money. That's the main reason.
 
isn't islam (even the "moderate" version) everything the left despises about fundamentalist christianity? except islam is horrifically worse in practice when it comes to human rights and the treatment of women, gays and unbelievers? What is a "moderate" muslim's position on gay marriage? abortion? sex outside of marriage?

and yet, many on the left rush to them with open arms.

They rush to Islam because it is a check against Christianity and to date Islam's influences are not embedded into our constitution or daily lives.
Christianity imposes on their daily lives, who they love, where they love, what they read, what they like, when they hallucinate, the decisions they make during pregnancies, and what they identify with or as.

Islam is that attractive rattlesnake behind the plexiglass that they can stare at but it can't bite them because it can't take a bite out of their world or society.
Yeah, every once in a while the snake gets loose and bites a couple of people but it isn't affecting them.
Meanwhile, they still have to drive by the First Baptist Church on their way to work and they are the fuckers that were protesting in front of the Planned Parenthood clinic last week or opposing men going into a bathroom with a 10 year old girl because that cancerous Bible says it's wrong.

It will take probably 50-100 years before Sharia takes its place in our legal system or day to day lives and most if us will never live to see it.
The ones the do will look at Christianity through a different perspective while living under Islamic oppression and wonder what all the fuss was about
 
It will take probably 50-100 years before Sharia takes its place in our legal system or day to day lives and most if us will never live to see it.

Wish we were going to be around. Would like to make a wager on this. Beyond the kind of secondary ****** law courts that are already present in the UK, etc I don't see sharia taking any place in our legal system ever.

Obama even said we took out Gaddafi without any "boots on the ground". How did they do that?
Good grief MP, there was an active civil war going on on the ground. The UN (including us) supported the anti-Gaddafi side in that war using airstrikes, navy launched missle strikes, a naval blockade, etc etc etc

So let me ask. Who pays the soldiers?

Oil income. Plus taxes/duties from the occupants of territory they control.

Why if they want to **** non muslims do they only ****** countries that are mostly muslim and are not friends to the USA?

They don't only want to **** non muslims. They've ****** way WAY more muslims than non muslims. Muslims who don't believe in their brand of Islam are considered just as worthy of death as complete non believers.
They don't have the means to carry out large scale military attacks on major western nations, though obviously they have staged ****** attacks in a number of western nations, including the US.
 
Wish we were going to be around. Would like to make a wager on this. Beyond the kind of secondary ****** law courts that are already present in the UK, etc I don't see sharia taking any place in our legal system ever.


Good grief MP, there was an active civil war going on on the ground. The UN (including us) supported the anti-Gaddafi side in that war using airstrikes, navy launched missle strikes, a naval blockade, etc etc etc

So let me ask. Who pays the soldiers?

Oil income. Plus taxes/duties from the occupants of territory they control.

Why if they want to **** non muslims do they only ****** countries that are mostly muslim and are not friends to the USA?

They don't only want to **** non muslims. They've ****** way WAY more muslims than non muslims. Muslims who don't believe in their brand of Islam are considered just as worthy of death as complete non believers.
They don't have the means to carry out large scale military attacks on major western nations, though obviously they have staged ****** attacks in a number of western nations, including the US.

Mass Muslim migration has been going on in the U.K. for only 15 years and now the number one name for newborn boys is Mohammed. London has a Muslim mayor.

60 years ago Elvis had to be shown from the waist up on Ed Sullivan. We've gone from black and white TV's to watching hi-def television on a 5 inch screen.

Look how the world has changed without globalization and you don't think society can evolve to the point that Sharia takes hold? I'm glad that I won't be around in 50 years.
 
I don't consider it a legitimate "religion" in any sense whatever. I find those that follow it are *******, and to be honest, as a Christian myself, I feel they are my sworn enemies. In no way will I ever except anyone as my equal who follows that cult. It's as satanic and backwards as Satanism, if not worse at this point.


The fact my own government hated my forefathers and me and my ****** so much that they would flood this country with Islamic ******* is an unforgivable offense to me. How could my OWN government flood my beloved state with so many of them? Somalis have no right to be here - never have, never will. They are the ultimate turd in the punch bowl of my state.
 
isn't islam (even the "moderate" version) everything the left despises about fundamentalist christianity? except islam is horrifically worse in practice when it comes to human rights and the treatment of women, gays and unbelievers? What is a "moderate" muslim's position on gay marriage? abortion? sex outside of marriage?

and yet, many on the left rush to them with open arms.

bump.

anyone else?

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or did BC effectively sum it up? I think so.
 
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