Islam

The day that Christians celebrate tomorrow and the kettles that are collecting money that goes to a lot of good causes.

Muslims don't do 1/10 of the charity work that Christians do.

All the good ever done cannot erase nor clean the ***** of the past it is simply an entity in hibernation waiting to inflict suffering when the time is right.
The Islamic just never stop it is always about 'join us or die'
 
No it can't. At least not rapidly. Why? Because 1) You can't wipe out an ideology with nothing more than military might 2) Elements of those groups are very widely dispersed and serve various purposes 3) They don't belong to any nation, so they can't be eradicated by eradicating a nation or its government 4) Their fighters aren't all congregated somewhere in open space like a set piece battlefield 5) If you take out civvies with them you only grow more of them.

Our borders are wide open.

No. They are not.

If A-Rabs really wanted us dead they would be bombing **** everyday.

How? They don't have an air *****. They aren't going to be rolling up in landing crafts on the Jersey shore. They aren't here in *****. We have huge national security agencies plus *************** constantly on watch monitoring threats.
In the places they have existed in ***** they have bombed **** just about every day (Iraq insurgency, etc)



I'd certainly say the same about anyone who witnessed the towers coming down but doesn't think there is a (radical) Muslim threat.

We as a nation have all the tools needed to wipe out radical Islam but we do not possess the stomach to inflict the level of atrocities necessary to see it through.
 
We as a nation have all the tools needed to wipe out radical Islam but we do not possess the stomach to inflict the level of atrocities necessary to see it through.

How do you wipe out an ideology with an ability to influence that magnifies with each atrocity committed against its adherents?
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I don't see it. Much as we all **** it I think we're stuck in a protracted battle that was a long time developing and will be a long time unwinding.
The only neutralizing I foresee is going to require time, wisdom and a strong global (yes I used that dirty word) commitment to police the situation.

These lunatics see their end time coming - they see their stone age beliefs quite naturally eroding, and with that their power, and that's a very big reason for their uptick in violently striking. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but as the world continues to shrink via technology and mass media I believe information and communication (along with a lot of drone sandwiches) are going to go a long way towards breaking their backs.
I think it already has to some degree, though that can be very hard to see at times.
 
How do you wipe out an ideology with an ability to influence that magnifies with each atrocity committed against its adherents?
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I don't see it. Much as we all **** it I think we're stuck in a protracted battle that was a long time developing and will be a long time unwinding.
The only neutralizing I foresee is going to require time, wisdom and a strong global (yes I used that dirty word) commitment to police the situation.

These lunatics see their end time coming - they see their stone age beliefs quite naturally eroding, and with that their power, and that's a very big reason for their uptick in violently striking. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but as the world continues to shrink via technology and mass media I believe information and communication (along with a lot of drone sandwiches) are going to go a long way towards breaking their backs.
I think it already has to some degree, though that can be very hard to see at times.

Agreed.
You wipeout an ideology by ******* EVERY SINGLE LIVING THING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
Something I hope we are never capable of.
 
We as a nation have all the tools needed to wipe out radical Islam but we do not possess the stomach to inflict the level of atrocities necessary to see it through.

You mean the country that incinerated alive entire cities in Japan and Germany?
Vietnam, Libya, Yemen.......I could fill this page.

The statement you made is so misinformed and naive.
Since when did The USA have a problem slaughtering people?

The reason we dont wipe out "The Terrorists" is because they work for us.

And the countries we have attacked over there were the good Muslims. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen.
But we support and give money, lots of money and weapons to the countries where most of the radical muslims come from.

I don't even know why I'm bothering here.
 
You mean the country that incinerated alive entire cities in Japan and Germany?
Vietnam, Libya, Yemen.......I could fill this page.

The statement you made is so misinformed and naive.
Since when did The USA have a problem slaughtering people?

The reason we dont wipe out "The Terrorists" is because they work for us.

And the countries we have attacked over there were the good Muslims. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen.
But we support and give money, lots of money and weapons to the countries where most of the radical muslims come from.

I don't even know why I'm bothering here.

We have a terrible history of slaughtering people as every empire before us but what I am talking about makes Hitler/Stalin/Mao look like girl scouts.
 
I see where meester is coming from. Boots on the ground didn't work. Sell the guns for regime building doesn't cover up anything. Drones don't either. We've heard cries for help about USA having the power to save humanitarian situations. At what point does USA say enough is enough? USA is not the only nation that manufactures weapons and has boots ready to deploy. I've heard enough **** about us stepping in and the **** towards us for entering foreign conflicts. If this is a USA government ploy to supplement the defense contractors then STOP IT. Let them retool and make refrigerators and washing machines, toasters and microwave ovens, cellphones. Let these regions solve their own problems.
 
Ok??? Thanks for the tidy history lesson but I'm assuming you have more of a point than your shiny little head.

Excuse me, I am not the one who thought that Hillary Rotten Clinton would win the elections, so please spare me your non constructive remarks. And what positive has the presidency of Obama done? Nothing, except for you who seem to live in a house of glass.
 
We as a nation have all the tools needed to wipe out radical Islam but we do not possess the stomach to inflict the level of atrocities necessary to see it through.
I have to disagree. Radical islam is not a person (or a group of person) that can be ******. It's not a nation that can be conquered and occupied. It's an idea.

50 years ago even if we had destroyed Soviet Union, China, Viet-Nam, North Korea, Cuba, etc. It wouldn't have erased communism from Earth

Right now, Daech is losing ground, they know they cannot win against the colalition on the military battlefield so they've changed their strategy. Insteead of trying ton conquer Syria, and other muslim countries in the region, they try to radicalise as much of muslims living in our countries as they cab, by using propaganda videos. They don't want them to join the fight in Syria, they want them to do terrorism in their home country, to spread fear and anger among the population. Because if the muslim population of our countries feel that they are considered as enemies, they might embrace it and act as enemies.
And as for now, it works.
 
Well, just for starters, at his order this guy was ****** Premium Link Upgrade
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plus tens of thousands of their "soldiers"
Seems like a whole lot more than nothing.

Do you think Obama could have said let's sit on this and not **** Bin Laden? He was also only a year and a half from reelection.

Not sure any president would not have given that order.

As for the 45, they are leaders by whose standards?
They all certainly aren't that well known.
Jihadi John was a good get , I gotta admit
 
Not sure any president would not have given that order.

Had McCain won he said he wouldn't have. Not with Bin Laden being in Pakistan.

As for the 45, they are leaders by whose standards? They all certainly aren't that well known.

Based on their titles I think it's safe to say they were definitely VIPs, even if most of their names aren't familiar to us.

Jihadi John was a good get , I gotta admit

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Excuse me, I am not the one who thought that Hillary Rotten Clinton would win the elections, so please spare me your non constructive remarks. And what positive has the presidency of Obama done? Nothing, except for you who seem to live in a house of glass.

Angry as ever I see.
 
Wow people here actually think Bin Laden was ****** in 2011?
At least we have witnesses. What, the Seal Team who ****** him all died a few months later?
Oh.
Well at least we have video. What, no video?
Well at least we have photos. What no photos?
Well at least we have a body. What?

Ok, so what do we have?
Obama making a speech about it?
Ok I'm sold. Ol Barry Soetoro wouldn't lie.
 
Wow people here actually think Bin Laden was ****** in 2011?
At least we have witnesses. What, the Seal Team who ****** him all died a few months later?
Oh.
Well at least we have video. What, no video?
Well at least we have photos. What no photos?
Well at least we have a body. What?

Ok, so what do we have?
Obama making a speech about it?
Ok I'm sold. Ol Barry Soetoro wouldn't lie.
The SEAL that took him out is still alive. He is on Fox News regularly.

I will say that this **** about respecting Muslim tradition and giving him a respectful burial at sea was ridiculous.

That motherfucker deserved to have his embalmed body paraded around Times Square with people taking turns hitting it with a Louisville Slugger.

Something about giving him a respectful burial after he ****** more Americans on our soil than ever in our history pisses me off.

Fuck Muslims and what inflames them.
They already want to **** us and are planning **** right now even after respecting their tradition.
 
Alright. Appreciate your thoughts on what went down.
Neither of us will ever know exactly what happened but giving the Obama administrations nonstop lies and deceipt I would warn anybody about believing anything especially with zero proof other than they said its real.

Bin Laden was a CIA asset going back to at least the 80's.
He was used by the US GOV as a proxy to fight the Russians because the US couldn't do it themselves without risking nuclear war.

The Bin Laden ****** has ties to the Bushes going back decades and it was the Bin Laden ****** who bankrolled Zapata Oil.
On 9/11/2001 all the Bin Ladens in the USA were put on planes by the US GOV and flown out.
If they really thought it was Obama why would they do that?

He was sick and dying in 2001 and died shortly after 9/11.
Nobody ****** him in 2011 because he was already dead for 10 years.

Everything Osama did was for the US CIA. He played the boogeyman for them and they used him to freak out the American people and be the catalyst for never ending wars.
1st matter at hand was to take over the Afghanistan opium fields and inundate the US and Europe with heroin.
All together he made The CIA, Pentagon,DHS, ect ect and the entire Military Industrial Complex TRILLIONS of dollars to this day.
So there is the motive for all this.

I know you dont believe it and ok thats fine.
But I'll never understand how people can pick and choose what is true from people they know lie every single day 24/7.
I suppose its because people believe that others have the same morals they do. They don't.
Its all nothing more than the Truman Show.
 
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