*Is Free Speech Dead ?*

Is free speech dead in the talk forum

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 70.2%
  • No

    Votes: 9 19.1%
  • Unsure or don't care

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • Total voters
    47
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As far as I am concerned no one should ever be ****** unless the members of the board vote to ban him/her. Right now it is up to a few to decide how to run the 'masses'. That is not right.
And if someone says something out of line they can get ******. No, there is DEFINITELY NOT free speech on this board.
 
Winter said:
Another day and still nothing. Someone told me this is being dragged out so people forget about it. Hope this is not true.
Don't lose faith. Sometimes we need to be patient.
 
Well...

As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to keep this thread alive on this Board just to remind every single Board member of the ongoing situation and that we aren't going to go away. We're not going to roll over on our backs and **** all over ourselves like puppies just because others say, "Boo!".

Picking on one person because of past mistakes is incredibly wrong and juvenile, in my eyes at least... ESPECIALLY when you can look around and see so much incredible bullshit that's being posted on this board. People 'round here make too many damned snap jugments and decisions based upon things that have happened in the past. It just needs to stop. It's building up too much bitterness, resentment, and hostility.

Let the fucking past stay where it is... dead and buried. Concentrate on the here and now.

Regards...
 
Well, well QBall. This matter isn't up to you bud. If freeones feels since LR can't respect the board and it's managemnt and members enought to respect a ban, and keeps him gone, what will you do?
 
This is ridiculous now. It really is. Has no one noticed the majority of regular contributing members who actually made the board what it was dont even bother now? I was and am more than happy to play by the rules as I have been doing for ages now as 001. Dragging it out as a demonstration of power has done absolutley nothing but create dissent and resentment among the members. If the ban had been reversed the day or the day after it happened, the management would have gathered a lot of respect from everyone who comes here. The fact people are leaving does not seem to bother them in the slightest though.

I feel sorry for the interim moderator team who are stuck in between the FO management team and the rising rebellion here. FB et al are in a no win situation as they dont have the power to do anything to correct it, and they are the ones who do the leg work on the board.

This isnt even about the banning of one account any more, it has grown to something, quite frankly, stupid beyond all belief. Everyone is fully aware you can get ****** and re sign up as many times as you want, so the umming and ahhing is redundant. I have no intention of doing that, merely illustrating the point.

The people who had the power to make things right ****** up their chance when they had it. Now they are making it worse. It beggars belief. If I get unbanned or not now will make no difference as it has been left too long. Faith and respect has been lost I am sad to say. I could come back as 001 and do my best to get the regulars back and posting and make it how it was a week ago, but I doubt I have that influence with them. I could stay ****** and more will leave. It has been left too long to have a positive outcome for anyone involved.

If someone had even said "Take a week ban, 001 will be back with you in that time" everyone would have hapily accepted that, and I wouldnt have even dredged up this account to have my say. No doubt this post will be seen as the perfect reason to keep me ******, but no one seems to give two shits about the board or its members around here.

I urge the people in power here to browse through Premium Link Upgrade and see what has become of a once loyal and respectful membership to Freeones.

******, unbanned or coated in jelly, I have lost faith in those who run the place entirely now, and as such this probably will be my last post.

Take care everyone!

Lord Raven.
 
I found myself thinking about this subject all week while i've been at work and today i just thought to myself "Get a grip man, you don't know any of these people personally and at the end of the day it's only a message board". Now i don't know if that was the saint or the sinner talking to me but i realised he was right, i enjoy it on here and i have some good chums, but there are far more important things going on in my life that i should be worrying about than "Freedom of Speech", "Lord Raven/001" and "Mods vs Members".

Now i shall go out and have some beers with some friends, but no doubt when there is a deadly silence between us all, my mind will drift somewhere else........dammit
 
Famousbabes said:
Well, well QBall. This matter isn't up to you bud. If freeones feels since LR can't respect the board and it's managemnt and members enought to respect a ban, and keeps him gone, what will you do?


It's rather humorous that you would choose to infer and attribute a matter of opinion to me that I've yet to actually express, verbalize, or even suggest.

No one said the matter WAS up to me, NOW DID THEY? I think the only person who's even made mention of that specific attitude has been YOU when YOU came back with that remark just now... I know that I certainly didn't infer or even suggest that the decision was up to me or anyone else.

I just merely stated the plain cold, hard fact that I'm not letting this thread die simply because I feel it's necessary to educate everyone as to the current status of this situation. I happen to think that the Moderating team did something pretty crappy and cowardly, actually, when you all ****** LordRaven/001 "just because" and without merit. You personally, FamousBabes, have done nothing but ridicule us; berate us; chastise us; and have even made subtle and somewhat vague hints that we all drop the subject or else.

FUCK THAT. I'm free and am well ****** the age of majority in my country of origin. I've yet to break ANY of the Board rules. I've shown you and the rest of the Moderators nothing but the highest of esteem and respect. I haven't flamed any of you, nor have I done anything to cause a problem amongst the Board members. So, as it stands, I think I pretty much have the right to express my opinions... even if it IS diametrically opposed to your own, FamousBabes. True of false?

Y'know... you and I've been cool ever since I joined this Board way back in November, but this one time I have to voice my opinion and come out against the Moderators. There is right... and then there is WRONG.

I happen to believe that LordRaven/001 paid his penance and now should be given the opportunity to do exactly what he HAD been doing for the past several months: CONTRIBUTING TO THIS BOARD IN A POSITIVE MANNER.

All in all, it really doesn't matter in the end, does it?

As Sutty said just a little while ago... "It's just a message board." In some ways I agree with that sentiment, BUT... y'all made the biggest of mistakes up when you ****** 001. You're just too ashamed of yourselves to admit that y'all acted like cowboys going off all half-cocked when you did it.

Y'know, I once wanted to be one of the Moderators here on the Board. Now? Pffffft.... I wouldn't condescend to take the position in a million friggin' lifetimes now... not if it means compromising the values I deem important in life.

There's such a thing as RESPECT.

With respect come loyalty and with loyalty comes honor. I see nothing honorable about what happened this past week. Someone got the genius idea of taking charge and made the decision to be a billy-bob wanna-be bad-ass and show a particular member just how much so-called power said person allegedly wielded.

Pfffft.


OH...

And unless I've missed something very crucial to the context of your posted reply:

I've yet to see Freeones himself make any sort of comment about this situation at hand. Am I to assume that you are speaking for him personally?

I've only noticed your comments this far... yours and Marie's; maybe another Moderator or two.

Just curious... if he has then, by all means, please direct me to his reply.
 
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You know qball i dont' see anything honorable that happen this last week either. I noticed a ****** member sneaked back on the board and was posting so he got the boot. He showed no repsect for anyone here by contanstly signing up with free email accounts. I was following the instructions of the boss.

I have said I'm not for keeping him ****** anymore, and we are waiting for FO to talk to us about it.

Paragraphs of talk won't speed that process up any. I personally think those who drone on about it are just making fools of themselfs.
 
And I RESPECT your opinion, FamousBabes. I really and truly do.

You see me - and the others who are posting these long, drawn out magna carters - as being foolish. Well... I can respect that. But, at the same time, I see myself speaking out and voicing my opinion.

It's just that simple, bro. It's nothing personal.

Like I've said before and I'll say again:

Opinions are like assholes... everybody's got one and at one time or another they stink like ****.

:hatsoff:
 
Sneaked back on ?

Seems to me that nobody sneaked back on. It appears to me that there was indeed an agreement to let 001 remain.

Maybe if you kept yourself in the loop FB this could all have been avoided.

As for "the boss" where is he? What is his stance on the current issue?
 
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