*Is Free Speech Dead ?*

Is free speech dead in the talk forum

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 70.2%
  • No

    Votes: 9 19.1%
  • Unsure or don't care

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • Total voters
    47
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:hatsoff: to FamousBabes for posting honestly in this thread, and giving us his point of view. It's really appreciated.

But this issue could have been resolved days ago by Admin., instead of being left to fester like an open sore on the board.
As it is, it's causing bad feelings on the board - so I think it needs addressing urgently, whether the answer to 001's ban is yes or no.

Either way, the issue needs concluding and probably an explanation given as to why that particular reason's been reached.
 
Winter said:
thfcmad was sick of hunting for accounts and banning me etc etc. He knew 001 was me for some time before approaching me, and had noted that as 001 I was causing no trouble. Frankly, I was pissed off at the original ban and caused some **** around xmas time. Excuses or reasons offered? None - I was an ass. I grew out of it and 001 was perfectly well behaved. He said so long as I stuck with that and thrashed out differences with other members so there would be no overspill on the board, it would be ok to carry on as 001.

There is not a lot more I can do or say. I have apologised and buried the hatchet with just about everyone involved. As 001 I have behaved and contributed a lot of good stuff - check out the Freeones FAQ I wrote that you can use to beat noobs around the head with ;)

Then I suggest to just stay as Winter.
 
jod0565 said:
Then I suggest to just stay as Winter.


Doing so defeats the very purpose of all these threads and comments. Why should he have to start all over when the persona '001' was THE perfect example of a stand up guy? '001' was never reprimanded; the character of that member was unblemished. His posting record reflects a member willing to do for and help others. I, for one, truly believes it speaks volumes as to LordRaven's actual "real-life" personality; a bit of a smart-ass, but willing to help a person in any way possible.

I mean, after all, the chances of the user name 'Winter' being ****** are just as likely... even more so now. What purpose would it serve for him to remain as 'Winter'?

I still think Freeones needs to weigh in on this matter.... and SOON. I know I'm not the only one that can discern the growing undercurrent of impatience and annoyance flowing through this thread.
 
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QBall1970 said:
Doing so defeats the very purpose of all these threads and comments. Why should he have to start all over when the persona '001' was THE perfect example of a stand up guy?

I mean, after all, the chances of the user name 'Winter' being ****** are just as likely... even more so now. What purpose would it serve for him to remain as 'Winter'?

I still think Freeones needs to weigh in on this matter.... and SOON. I know I'm not the only that can discern the undercurrent of impatience and annoyance flowing through this thread.

You know what is the weirdest thing is? The person who created all this havoc and mess has not posted nor shown his face round here for like the last 4/5 days. I think he's too afraid to come out and say why he is for the ban of 001. You all know who I am talking about here.
 
RKO!!!05 said:
You know what is the weirdest thing is? The person who created all this havoc and mess has not posted nor shown his face round here for like the last 4/5 days. I think he's too afraid to come out and say why he is for the ban of 001. You all know who I am talking about here.

That's the one thing I just don't get. In my eyes Famousbabes deserves a lot of credit for actually talking to us in this thread and others- something a message board should be all about. He's the only one and even though he does have different views on a number of subjects I think everybody interested in this matter respect his opinions.

Why doesn't anybody else recognize how much bad reputation and ill atmosphere this has brought? I don't believe for one second that the other mods, the supermod and FO himself aren't aware of the significance of this case. I know mods can't unban 001 but really: them not contributing at all to this discussion, however unnecessary or childish they might deem it leaves the impression that they don't care all that much about the board, its members and their opinions. That leaves a very stale taste with me. I didn't even know the first thing about 001 before. I knew him as a great contributor and I respected him a lot without knowing about his past. So there actually wasn't that much of a reason for me to become somewhat involved in this argument. But to witness how members (and I'm not only talking about members who have done something wrong in the past but about all the reputed members -RKO, QBall, Georges, Bigdan, Summer et al. - who have voiced their opinions on this) are simply being ignored makes me wanna ****.
 
Only one other moderator have said something (BNF) where in the world are the other moderators, at least give us an opinion or something, is that too much to ask, or should i start to name them one by one...
 
Vegas Yankee said:
That's the one thing I just don't get. In my eyes Famousbabes deserves a lot of credit for actually talking to us in this thread and others- something a message board should be all about. He's the only one and even though he does have different views on a number of subjects I think everybody interested in this matter respect his opinions.

Why doesn't anybody else recognize how much bad reputation and ill atmosphere this has brought? I don't believe for one second that the other mods, the supermod and FO himself aren't aware of the significance of this case. I know mods can't unban 001 but really: them not contributing at all to this discussion, however unnecessary or childish they might deem it leaves the impression that they don't care all that much about the board, its members and their opinions. That leaves a very stale taste with me. I didn't even know the first thing about 001 before. I knew him as a great contributor and I respected him a lot without knowing about his past. So there actually wasn't that much of a reason for me to become somewhat involved in this argument. But to witness how members (and I'm not only talking about members who have done something wrong in the past but about all the reputed members -RKO, QBall, Georges, Bigdan, Summer et al. - who have voiced their opinions on this) are simply being ignored makes me wanna ****.


Vegas...

Don't know if I'm reading it the right way - correct me if I'm wrong, please! - but I think you might have misunderstood RKO's post and whom in particular it was directed towards. I don't believe it was FamousBabes to whom he was referring, actually.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe RKO was speaking of the one member in particular that pretty much re-started the witch hunt this time around. I won't name any names because this particular person and I have been on relatively decent terms up until this particular instance. Since he's not here to defend himself or speak up, I'm refraining from attacking the guy.

Like I said, if I misunderstood the intent of your post, please... I tender my apologies. And, by the way, I so happen to agree with you: I DO wholeheartedly feel that FamousBabes has earned a special recognition for having the courtesy to address these issues with us on this thread. My esteem for him hasn't faltered or failed.

:hatsoff:

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I read through your post a second time... I did, in fact, misunderstand what you were trying to say. So, please, disregard the above... no offenses were intended! Suffice it to say that I think we're all in agreement on pretty mucht this and all of the other issues as well.
 
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I have nothing against Famousbabes at all, I don't hold no grudges against him whatsoever. I'm all for what he has been posting and you're absolutely right Vegas, he does deserve all the credit he is getting.

QBall, thank you for explaining it to him, because that is right, I was not referring to FB, however I was referring to the member who apparently has reported Dinalt and I for some odd reason and whom did play somewhat a big part in all of this.
 
QBall1970 said:
{EDIT}

I read through your post a second time... I did, in fact, misunderstand what you were trying to say. So, please, disregard the above... no offenses were intended! Suffice it to say that I think we're all in agreement on pretty mucht this and all of the other issues as well.

No, you were right the first time, I misread what he said. Anyway, doesn't matter now anymore, since the point I tried to make was one that I thought was due for some time. But enough now of the misunderstandings :rolleyes: and let's get back to that waiting thing.... :(
 
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There are currently 13,915 registered members....

At present a total of 41 members have posted in this thread....

4 of those are Moderators....

You do not even represent 1% of the membership....

Do any of you really think this crap is going to make any difference???
 
jdb67 said:
There are currently 13,915 registered members....



Do any of you really think this crap is going to make any difference???

Many of those 13,915 either no longer post here at all, only post in find your favourite babe, or only post here once in a while. I would say we/they represent a larger percentage than you might think.

Furthermore, if you take the time to thoroughly read through the entire thread again then you will see that "this crap" has already made a difference. There has already been a complete turnaround in FB's stance on this particular subject. It has also made a difference to the forum in general. The threads which were maybe halfway down the 1st page of Freeones Talk are still there with no further posts. Almost NOBODY is posting here at the moment. That has a direct knock on effect to the other members who have not gotten involved. They come to a board where very little posting takes place and as a result they get dis-interested and move on elsewhere.

To summarise JDB, YES I do think it is making a difference!
 
jdb67 said:
There are currently 13,915 registered members....

At present a total of 41 members have posted in this thread....

4 of those are Moderators....

You do not even represent 1% of the membership....

Do any of you really think this crap is going to make any difference???

As I type this there are currently only 39 members online....LESS the number that have posted in this thread!!!!!!!! :mad:
 
jdb67 said:
There are currently 13,915 registered members....

At present a total of 41 members have posted in this thread....

4 of those are Moderators....

You do not even represent 1% of the membership....

Do any of you really think this crap is going to make any difference???

:glugglug: Hi jdb67. Yes, there are lots of registered members, but most are inactive to say the least.

I've already mentioned this in another thread, so I've reproduced it below:

Dinalt said:
My rant's more to do with members joining who don't post anything. We've got 13,611 members (when I posted), and out of those only 494 have posted a 100 times or more.
That means there's 13117 members who don't do much at all.

It's about time more of the 13,611 members started posting, as it's nice to get a mixture of opinions on the board.

Or let's have a purge on members who've been inactive for 6 months or more - be interesting to see how many members actually do anything. So clear out the database, and let's lose some of the dead wood.

Anyone can check these figures, just by going to the 'members list' on the top bar.
Run an ascending/descending sort and check it out.

If you use the figure of 494 members who've posted 100 times or more, then at least 10% of the regular members have posted here. That's quite a significant minority.
And of course, of those 494, some aren't posting anymore anyway (check the last post times).

:rofl: So yeah, this crap does make a difference, as the figures don't lie.

:hatsoff: Thanks for the input jdb, but I thought it best to answer the question, as not many of the registered members actually do anything.
 
Mr Miyagi said:
Many of those 13,915 either no longer post here at all, only post in find your favourite babe, or only post here once in a while. I would say we/they represent a larger percentage than you might think.

Furthermore, if you take the time to thoroughly read through the entire thread again then you will see that "this crap" has already made a difference. There has already been a complete turnaround in FB's stance on this particular subject. It has also made a difference to the forum in general. The threads which were maybe halfway down the 1st page of Freeones Talk are still there with no further posts. Almost NOBODY is posting here at the moment. That has a direct knock on effect to the other members who have not gotten involved. They come to a board where very little posting takes place and as a result they get dis-interested and move on elsewhere.

To summarise JDB, YES I do think it is making a difference!

I have taken the time to thoroughly read this thread, in fact I have been online for the last three hours going through this thread and all others here on Freeones and at the Haven.... And I have to say that as Adults, you are acting like a bunch of spoilt ********!!!

I am aware that there are Multiple accounts, inactive accounts (people that no longer post here) but at the end of the day, 37 members as apposed to 10,000 members is still less then 1%

Just because the threads havent moved in the last coupl of days means bugger all... This has happened before!!! the threads that count are still moving, Name your Favorite Babe & ID/Name the Babe... These are the threads that truly matter!!! All the others are just put there for the members, nothing more!!! Like somebody allready said, Fo doesnt make any money out of these threads!!! It's a business to him, this site makes him a living!!!

Do any of you think that you will truly effect his income with your contributions???

I dont think so...

FB changed his mind simply because he was given more information.... Not because you have "harrassed or scared" him into **********!!!

Even if the decision goes against you and you all decided to leave as a protest, Freeones will go on....

My :2 cents:
 
I'm pretty much bored with this subject already, obviously nothing will be solved!
 
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