Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
The right is so good at just making shit up
The right is so good at just making shit up
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Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
Enlighten us then... :dunno:
Enlighten us then... :dunno:
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
True, but they have been really inconsistent with their lies. Conservative's lies are so see-through it's hilarious. Ask any conservative what's wrong with Obama and they'll either say "He's doing too much interefering and taking our tax dollars, we need to take our country back" or "He's not doing anything and america is going to be destroyed, we need to take our country back". It's come to a point where it's getting ridiculous. What is the problem? Is he doing too much or not enough? There's no definite answer from them and Obama will never win, even if he, his administration and his congress make america a prosperous superpower, people will still complain.
True, but they have been really inconsistent with their lies. Conservative's lies are so see-through it's hilarious. Ask any conservative what's wrong with Obama and they'll either say "He's doing too much interefering and taking our tax dollars, we need to take our country back" or "He's not doing anything and america is going to be destroyed, we need to take our country back". It's come to a point where it's getting ridiculous. What is the problem? Is he doing too much or not enough? There's no definite answer from them and Obama will never win, even if he, his administration and his congress make america a prosperous superpower, people will still complain.
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
Here's what Obama has done in a little less than two years in office. The simple fact is that the White House has a communication problem. They need to do a better job of communicating to the public and letting them know what they are doing.
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
Here's what Obama has done in a little less than two years in office. The simple fact is that the White House has a communication problem. They need to do a better job of communicating to the public and letting them know what they are doing.
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
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The link Icecold posted http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ was in my post above your quote. ~shaking head~ Seriously. Right-wingers don't want to know. They can't be bothered to find the actual truth. It's more fun to follow the fox news marching orders and throw rush limbaugh shit bombs.
The link Icecold posted http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ was in my post above your quote. ~shaking head~ Seriously. Right-wingers don't want to know. They can't be bothered to find the actual truth. It's more fun to follow the fox news marching orders and throw rush limbaugh shit bombs.
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
Depending on you you ask, the vast majority of those "accomplishments" are any but... The two Major ones are the Recovery Act (a total waste of money, much of which is still unaccounted for) and the Health Care Reform (was suppose to keep costs down, but is causing them to sky rocket at a higher pace than ever).
Listen on that site are him appointing a Hispanic to the Supreme Court (really?), ending Gitmo (it's still open), increasing "minority" access to capital (um, what minorities and who's capital?), expansion of Medicaid (it was already going broke, and surely will now within a couple of years), increased funding to National Parks Service by 10% (really??), Appointed more openly gay officials than any other president in US history (this is an accomplishment?).
If you look at EVERY one of the "accomplishments", it's either a claim that spending money we don't have was a GOOD thing, or it was promoting a social agenda that is very debatable and not all Americans agree on (what ever happened to promoting excellence instead of "diversity?").
The one thing I hoped Obama would bring was the openness and transparency he campaigned on... that went out the window quickly didn't it? All I've seen is a Carter-esque failure of leadership, and a reliance on expanding Federal programs to solve the Nation's ills.
Depending on you you ask, the vast majority of those "accomplishments" are any but... The two Major ones are the Recovery Act (a total waste of money, much of which is still unaccounted for) and the Health Care Reform (was suppose to keep costs down, but is causing them to sky rocket at a higher pace than ever).
Listen on that site are him appointing a Hispanic to the Supreme Court (really?), ending Gitmo (it's still open), increasing "minority" access to capital (um, what minorities and who's capital?), expansion of Medicaid (it was already going broke, and surely will now within a couple of years), increased funding to National Parks Service by 10% (really??), Appointed more openly gay officials than any other president in US history (this is an accomplishment?).
If you look at EVERY one of the "accomplishments", it's either a claim that spending money we don't have was a GOOD thing, or it was promoting a social agenda that is very debatable and not all Americans agree on (what ever happened to promoting excellence instead of "diversity?").
The one thing I hoped Obama would bring was the openness and transparency he campaigned on... that went out the window quickly didn't it? All I've seen is a Carter-esque failure of leadership, and a reliance on expanding Federal programs to solve the Nation's ills.
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
*shakes head*
It must be very comforting to see the world in such stark, polar terms. The reality is that many critics of the Obama/Democratic agenda are the same Independents that voted for him, along with many "libertarians" like myself and many people I know.
Nice try though.
*shakes head*
It must be very comforting to see the world in such stark, polar terms. The reality is that many critics of the Obama/Democratic agenda are the same Independents that voted for him, along with many "libertarians" like myself and many people I know.
Nice try though.
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Clinton > Obama > Bush 1 > Bush 2
Clinton > Obama > Bush 1 > Bush 2
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
Let me ask you this and btw make no mistake I am not entirely happy with everything Obama has done or not done, but from a different POV then yours I'm sure.
You earlier mentioned something about how smart is Obama really.I would say compared to the prior president (Bush) is there really any question on that? And Sarah Palin who is really making noise she will run makes Bush look like Einstein in comparison.So if were just voting on intelligence, Obama wins easily.Personally I don't think being a good president is about your IQ as much as it is in coming from the right place,the left!:bowdown:
Let me ask you this and btw make no mistake I am not entirely happy with everything Obama has done or not done, but from a different POV then yours I'm sure.
You earlier mentioned something about how smart is Obama really.I would say compared to the prior president (Bush) is there really any question on that? And Sarah Palin who is really making noise she will run makes Bush look like Einstein in comparison.So if were just voting on intelligence, Obama wins easily.Personally I don't think being a good president is about your IQ as much as it is in coming from the right place,the left!:bowdown:
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The Obama administration is the most transparent in history. Compare what they have done in this regard to previous administrations. You can go to http://transparency.gov/ for starters. My question to you is how hard have you looked for transparency? I get a quarterly letter from my state congressman and state senator (two wankers I didn't vote for), but that's about it. Would you like to be on a government transparency snail mail list? You'd just bitch about government waste I would imagine.
You claim the Recovery Act was a waste of money. I've heard others claim it kept things from getting a whole fucking lot worse than they are. If you think it's a waste of money give me some examples.
Health Care Reform hasn't caused my insurance to go up a bit, nor anyone's that I know. My car insurance keeps going up, though.
What a ridiculous conversation, really. You're just following the typical right-wing track of bashing Obama whether there's any validity to your complaints or not.
The Obama administration is the most transparent in history. Compare what they have done in this regard to previous administrations. You can go to http://transparency.gov/ for starters. My question to you is how hard have you looked for transparency? I get a quarterly letter from my state congressman and state senator (two wankers I didn't vote for), but that's about it. Would you like to be on a government transparency snail mail list? You'd just bitch about government waste I would imagine.
You claim the Recovery Act was a waste of money. I've heard others claim it kept things from getting a whole fucking lot worse than they are. If you think it's a waste of money give me some examples.
Health Care Reform hasn't caused my insurance to go up a bit, nor anyone's that I know. My car insurance keeps going up, though.
What a ridiculous conversation, really. You're just following the typical right-wing track of bashing Obama whether there's any validity to your complaints or not.
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
Obama didn't raise the deficit just for shits and giggles you know.
Obama didn't raise the deficit just for shits and giggles you know.
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
Ok, you win... let's keep spending money and let the whole economy collapse so we can go beg the Arabs and the EU to bail us out.
You guys have convinced me, Obama is infallible and the greatest political theorist and economist of our time. His ideas, along with such great leadership from Reid and Pelosi in Congress, will usher in a new era of prosperity and peace for all Americans.
Ok, you win... let's keep spending money and let the whole economy collapse so we can go beg the Arabs and the EU to bail us out.
You guys have convinced me, Obama is infallible and the greatest political theorist and economist of our time. His ideas, along with such great leadership from Reid and Pelosi in Congress, will usher in a new era of prosperity and peace for all Americans.
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
At no point did I say any of what you just said. I'm saying that Obama did what he did because it needed to happen so I guess you could call me a Keynesian or a socialist or whatever. Let's remember that TARP was passed under Bush and that Boehner was on the House floor crying as he begged for passage of TARP,which bailed out Wall Street.
At no point did I say any of what you just said. I'm saying that Obama did what he did because it needed to happen so I guess you could call me a Keynesian or a socialist or whatever. Let's remember that TARP was passed under Bush and that Boehner was on the House floor crying as he begged for passage of TARP,which bailed out Wall Street.
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Exhibit A from today's news: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/criti...n-hiding-massive-saudi-arms/story?id=12192558
If you truly believe your statement, You Might want to be a little more objective.
Exhibit A from today's news: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/criti...n-hiding-massive-saudi-arms/story?id=12192558
If you truly believe your statement, You Might want to be a little more objective.
Re: In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Barack Obama is doing as
I somewhat agree with this post, I was NOT a fan of Bush 2's economic policies, and to a large extent, Obama has continued them in accelerated fashion.
And I don't understand the "it would have been worse if we'd have done nothing" argument... No one can disprove it! :dunno:
I somewhat agree with this post, I was NOT a fan of Bush 2's economic policies, and to a large extent, Obama has continued them in accelerated fashion.
And I don't understand the "it would have been worse if we'd have done nothing" argument... No one can disprove it! :dunno:
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http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/critic...ry?id=12192558
That's old news and was hardly "hidden".
All I'm saying is that if you bitch about everything and have no workable alternatives then you're not really helping, are you? Anyone can sit back and bitch. That's why I don't take "libertarians" seriously. They bitch about both parties and offer no solutions. All the bitching and none of the responsibility. Pretty much a juvenile mentality.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/critic...ry?id=12192558
That's old news and was hardly "hidden".
All I'm saying is that if you bitch about everything and have no workable alternatives then you're not really helping, are you? Anyone can sit back and bitch. That's why I don't take "libertarians" seriously. They bitch about both parties and offer no solutions. All the bitching and none of the responsibility. Pretty much a juvenile mentality.
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The simple fact is that it would have been worse had no stimulus been passed. The CBO, which is non-partisan, says the stimulus prevented depression and a double dip recession.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/08/24/cbo-stimulus-prevented-depression-and-double-dip-recession/
The simple fact is that it would have been worse had no stimulus been passed. The CBO, which is non-partisan, says the stimulus prevented depression and a double dip recession.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/08/24/cbo-stimulus-prevented-depression-and-double-dip-recession/
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The "solution" is to live your own life... with both parties, all I see is one group of people arguing how to spend the others money... and back and forth it goes to no end. I'm MUCH prefer if they would stick to explicit Constitutional mandates like national defense and stay the fuck out of everything else, thank you very much. All of these programs create ignorant zombies you just exist to no purpose, it creates mediocrity and despair. I'd much rather keep what I earn and fend for myself... and I believe the same for everyone except children and the disabled. Let the wheat separate from the chaff and the chips fall where they may, because no amount of social programs can create the utopia you lefties seek - we are NOT equal as human beings. And besides, every Western nation is now going bankrupt in pursuit of this pipedream. Reality is the greatest teacher, and she ALWAYS win. :2 cents:
The "solution" is to live your own life... with both parties, all I see is one group of people arguing how to spend the others money... and back and forth it goes to no end. I'm MUCH prefer if they would stick to explicit Constitutional mandates like national defense and stay the fuck out of everything else, thank you very much. All of these programs create ignorant zombies you just exist to no purpose, it creates mediocrity and despair. I'd much rather keep what I earn and fend for myself... and I believe the same for everyone except children and the disabled. Let the wheat separate from the chaff and the chips fall where they may, because no amount of social programs can create the utopia you lefties seek - we are NOT equal as human beings. And besides, every Western nation is now going bankrupt in pursuit of this pipedream. Reality is the greatest teacher, and she ALWAYS win. :2 cents:
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I'm not seeking a utopia and I don't know any liberal that is. If you really believe that the government should "stay the fuck out" of things that the constitution doesn't mandate let me ask you, how do you like your socialist highways? How about your socialist water? Are you willing to give up your socialist safe food? How about that pesky socialized electricity that lights your home? No where in the constitution are those fucking things mandated and no way would you have those things without the fucking government. Thanks for proving what a juvenile mentality "libertarian" thinking springs from. You obviously haven't really thought through your positions.
I'm not seeking a utopia and I don't know any liberal that is. If you really believe that the government should "stay the fuck out" of things that the constitution doesn't mandate let me ask you, how do you like your socialist highways? How about your socialist water? Are you willing to give up your socialist safe food? How about that pesky socialized electricity that lights your home? No where in the constitution are those fucking things mandated and no way would you have those things without the fucking government. Thanks for proving what a juvenile mentality "libertarian" thinking springs from. You obviously haven't really thought through your positions.
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