Immigration, Refugees, Asylum, Illegal aliens and everything in between

[Orban89]

NGOs in Italy slam Europe for allowing migrant deaths in the Mediterranean​

 

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NGOs in Italy slam Europe for allowing migrant deaths in the Mediterranean​

@Orban89 What did the NGO's expect the authorities to do?

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Orban, do you think these adult migrants should accept any responsibility for their own actions or is it the fault of the new daddy they are trying to get to adopt and support them?

 

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Controversial question time!!:

US tells migrant woman 8 months pregnant to wait in Mexico
https://apnews.com/article/health-u...x-state-wire-965719d5bf5a4d5790820f719ae2a3da
ACLU files complaint against government returning pregnant asylum-seekers to Mexico
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino...rning-pregnant-asylum-seekers-mexico-n1059711

These are from 2019, but you'll notice there's been no change to the policy in 2023. And let's be honest, it will never change, for the simple reason that children born in the US get automatic US citizenship. But you'll notice that neither of these articles even mention citizenship for the baby. Even sleepy Joe hasn't said a word about it.

So let's cut the bullshit and ask the real question:
Should countries which recognize birthright citizenship be obligated to house late-pregnancy asylum seekers?

 

[Buttermaker]

Orban, do you think these adult migrants should accept any responsibility for their own actions or is it the fault of the new daddy they are trying to get to adopt and support them?

I think it is futile to wait on an answer from @Orban89

Or will he make an exception now?

 

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I think it is futile to wait on an answer from @Orban89

Or will he make an exception now?

@Buttermaker Orban might not answer, but I would be curious to your answer to my question above.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Orban can't answer nuthin' cuz he ain't know nuthin'.

 

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A pretty balanced view of the immigration problem, and a friendly reminder how it is very much a biden problem as it was a trmp one.

 

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Asylum seekers sleeping on the streets of Toronto as city, feds argue over who should foot the bill
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/a-hug...argue-over-who-should-foot-the-bill-1.6471231

So after declaring the entire country a "sanctuary city" for refugees, it turns out that the biggest of those cities can't handle them.
Since it was the Federal govt who rolled out the red carpet for the refugees, Toronto asked them to pay up. And their response?

DECLINED faster than an ISIS member's asylum claim.
https://thedeepdive.ca/freeland-rejects-torontos-bailout-request-points-at-ontario-instead/

Basically, the deputy Prime minister said: "You're loaded, go fund yourself"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683684273046315009

 

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Biden’s asylum restrictions for migrants may remain in place, federal appeals court rules​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/b...place-federal-appeals-court-rules/ar-AA1eL8X7

The majority judges did not explain their decision but it inspired a blistering dissent from the third judge on the panel, Lawrence VanDyke, who said the 9th Circuit had shot down Trump administration immigration policies while allowing Biden’s to remain in place.
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In his dissent, VanDyke signaled that it appeared that the appeals court was treating Biden differently from President Donald Trump, who sought to restrict immigration. VanDyke wrote that, in 2018, Tigar blocked the Trump administration from denying asylum to migrants who crossed the southern border illegally and the 9th Circuit refused to stay that decision.
VanDyke wrote that Biden’s asylum restrictions were so similar to the Trump administration’s that it looks like they “got together, had a baby, and then dolled it up in a stylish modern outfit, complete with a phone app.”

Joe & the dems can try to pull a fast one all they want, but in the end their asylum policies are cut from the same cloth as turmp.

 

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https://www.youtube.com/@temmerrity/videos

I thought it was interesting to see how this YT Channel's videos barely get over 100 views, but certain videos get... thousands.

 

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Half a year later, Roxham is a ghost crossing. Hard to believe that over 100K crossed here.

 

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Migrant who thanked Biden after entering US illegally is already in NYC with court date set for October 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrant-thanked-biden-entering-us-021450874.html

Both he and another migrant — who came from Liberia — said they were not seeking asylum, but rather work opportunities in the U.S.
"I came here because I want [a] quality life, America is a land of opportunity," he said.

So he's not fleeing for his life, and he's not a refugee. He just wants to cut in line and not go through immigration procedures.
If you accept people like this, why bother having an application process at all?

 

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U.K. Detains Asylum-Seekers for Deportation to Rwanda
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/01/uk-rwanda-migrant-deportation-asylum-seekers-ireland/

Under the so-called Safety of Rwanda Act, which the U.K. Parliament passed last Tuesday, the asylum-seekers will be sent to the Rwandan capital of Kigali to either be granted asylum there or be sent to a third country. The Sunak government believes that this policy will help discourage people from trying to make the dangerous trek from France across the English Channel via small dinghies. More than 7,600 migrants have arrived in Britain this year using this route, a 14 percent increase from record levels documented in 2022.

@Steve-FreeOnes @usman19 & others - I have to ask: What is the sentiment like about asylum seekers over there, especially those who enter illegally? If the Act got passed, I imagine there is at least some support for kicking out those who don't go through the proper channels to claim asylum.

Also... why are they trying to get to the UK? If they got all the way to France, they have their choice of all the EU countries to make a claim in. Is the UK known to grant asylum more than the rest of the EU? Sure, the UK is great, but I have to think any EU country is better than where they are coming from.

 

[Stephen1956]

From the time of human origin in Africa, people have been walking or sailing across the Earth. It's a shame indigenous people in undeveloped countries did not have the ability to fend off "illegals" back in the day. This bleeding heart, in the minority of many opinions, supports one tenet of Socialism, the elimination of the arbitrary lines drawn not by The Almighty, but by man.

 

[usman19]

U.K. Detains Asylum-Seekers for Deportation to Rwanda
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/05/01/uk-rwanda-migrant-deportation-asylum-seekers-ireland/



@Steve-FreeOnes @usman19 & others - I have to ask: What is the sentiment like about asylum seekers over there, especially those who enter illegally? If the Act got passed, I imagine there is at least some support for kicking out those who don't go through the proper channels to claim asylum.

Also... why are they trying to get to the UK? If they got all the way to France, they have their choice of all the EU countries to make a claim in. Is the UK known to grant asylum more than the rest of the EU? Sure, the UK is great, but I have to think any EU country is better than where they are coming from.

I think coming from as a British Asian person where my parents migrated at a early age here, there is alot of resentment towards people like us and just anyone that doesn't come across as white. Europeans won't get as much because to British folk they can pass off as white. Our skin colour is very different. Racism has always been the case just
people are a bit more hidden about it than in the open compared to the 60's and 70's.

Parents moved at a time when there was huge need for migrants to come and help with various jobs and industries and because those people are now settled, other people from that community would think about moving to the UK.

Issue is for those who do want to kick people out, mainly white people cause others don't mind, they can claim and say that every non white person has come in illegally, cause if everyone came in legally and got through, people would still be pissed. To them they just don't want any people of colour in the UK cause there seems to be more of us than white people.

Deport people that should be deported, not just cause they fit a certain skin colour which i think this would set a prescient to do so. Any crime people from our backgrounds do, they are quick to throw the deport label, but if a white person does it, not much hype or outcry.

 

[gmase]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-61782866.amp
The plan is insane. Paying £600m to relocate a few hundred people does not seem like a practical idea. The UK must have some nice surplus funds to be spending.

 

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There's a YT channel for the US town across from the infamous Roxham crossing between the US-Canada. They used to report on the crowd of immigrants illegally entering Canada, but now the tide has turned and the immigrants are sneaking into the US from Canada. This reporter checks in on the situation every now & then

 

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/pol...gee claimants stayed,at the beginning of 2023.

A reply from the federal government to a parliamentary question revealed that almost 5,000 asylum seekers, including from Nigeria, Kenya, Venezuela and Colombia, were accommodated in hotels during this period. On average, refugee claimants stayed 113 days in hotels at a cost of $208 per person each day, including room and meals and security

Simple math shows the Canadian government paid $75,920 per year per asylum seeker.

https://www.jobillico.com/blog/en/t... September 2023, the,had in the previous year.

As of September 2023, the average Canadian salary is $1,215.02 per week or $63,181.04 per year for full-time employees.

You can see the problem here.