If Germany only had tougher gun restrictions

[Mr. Daystar]

Poor liberals.
The issue here isn't whether the fucker is connected to terror. It is that he was able to use a firearm to kill in a highly gun controlled utopia like Germany. Try to follow along.

I wonder if this is one of those situations where, laws only effect the law abiding, or if it's more of a, if you take away guns, only criminals will have guns, type of a thing?

 

[nightwanker]

 

[Supafly]

The argument, that very strict gun laws do not 100% prevent gun violence incidents like the one in Munich just now is not such a surprise, coming from the usual suspects who try to use it for not doing ANYTHING to even keep war weaponry like assault rigfles away from people who are mental or very likely terroroists etc.

You see, the true point is:

You might want to just look at the statistics of incidents per 1.000 inhabitants and year and you will see:

It is nothing to thinbk twice about - stricter gun laws make countries safer. And that doesn't yet include all the sad saps who feel depressed and can just shoot themselves on the spot, just because they have a loadedweapon conveniently in their home.

 

[BCsSecretAlias]

The argument, that very strict gun laws do not 100% prevent gun violence incidents like the one in Munich just now is not such a surprise, coming from the usual suspects who try to use it for not doing ANYTHING to even keep war weaponry like assault rigfles away from people who are mental or very likely terroroists etc.

You see, the true point is:

You might want to just look at the statistics of incidents per 1.000 inhabitants and year and you will see:

It is nothing to thinbk twice about - stricter gun laws make countries safer. And that doesn't yet include all the sad saps who feel depressed and can just shoot themselves on the spot, just because they have a loadedweapon conveniently in their home.

No dummy. Stricter gun laws do not solve anything. Remove crimes committed with illegally obtained weapons and U.S. gun crime would be equal to the countries with low incidence of gun crime.

The laws do not solve the problem of people kiling each other with illegally obtained firearms. They aren't stopping it now, nor will stricter gun laws solve it ever.
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/crime-and-guns/

 

[Johan]

No dummy. Stricter gun laws do not solve anything. Remove crimes committed with illegally obtained weapons and U.S. gun crime would be equal to the countries with low incidence of gun crime.

You have nothing to back such a claim, you're just making up arguments that fits your narrative.


Here are some facts :
Terrorist use guns = 6 dead
Terrorist do not use guns = 0 dead http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...an-refugee-attacks-train-passengers-8-injured
Other terrorist do not use guns = 0 dead http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...ters-stabbed-by-Moroccan-man-in-Alpine-resort


Since the beginning of the terrorism spree in Europe all attacks that caused deaths involved guns, even the Nice driver is reported to have been firing with some guns while he was driving through people. And each time no guns were used, no one died.

 

[BCsSecretAlias]

You have nothing to back such a claim, you're just making up arguments that fits your narrative.


Here are some facts :
Terrorist use guns = 6 dead
Terrorist do not use guns = 0 dead http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...an-refugee-attacks-train-passengers-8-injured
Other terrorist do not use guns = 0 dead http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...ters-stabbed-by-Moroccan-man-in-Alpine-resort


Since the beginning of the terrorism spree in Europe all attacks that caused deaths involved guns, even the Nice driver is reported to have been firing with some guns while he was driving through people. And each time no guns were used, no one died.

I have posted a link twice on this thread that backs up my statements.

Again, I will point out that the premise of this thread is that someone in Germany committed a mass shooting. If stricter gun laws were effective it wouldn't have happened.

 

[Johan]

I have posted a link twice on this thread that backs up my statements.

Again, I will point out that the premise of this thread is that someone in Germany committed a mass shooting. If stricter gun laws were effective it wouldn't have happened.

How many shooting spree in Germany during the last decade. How many in the US ?

You're right about one thing : Countries with tought gun legislations do have shooting sprees, from time to time. But much less than countries with no gun-control, like the US.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

More gun control laws would lower violent crime just like Obamacare lowers insurance premiums........wait.

 

[Johan]

More gun control laws would lower violent crime just like Obamacare lowers insurance premiums........wait.

Than how's that that Japan have the strictest gun-regulation in the world and the lowest homicide rate in the world compared to the US with the highest number of gun per capita and nearly no gun-control have the highest homicide rate of all the western civilised countries ?

 

[sean miguel]

Than how's that that Japan have the strictest gun-regulation in the world and the lowest homicide rate in the world compared to the US with the highest number of gun per capita and nearly no gun-control have the highest homicide rate of all the western civilised countries ?

Japan's lowest homicide rate has nothing to do with their strict gun regulation but everything to do with their culture. They're way less shitty to each other than anywhere else. And they get it.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

The argument, that very strict gun laws do not 100% prevent gun violence incidents like the one in Munich just now is not such a surprise, coming from the usual suspects who try to use it for not doing ANYTHING to even keep war weaponry like assault rigfles away from people who are mental or very likely terroroists etc.

You see, the true point is:

You might want to just look at the statistics of incidents per 1.000 inhabitants and year and you will see:

It is nothing to thinbk twice about - stricter gun laws make countries safer. And that doesn't yet include all the sad saps who feel depressed and can just shoot themselves on the spot, just because they have a loadedweapon conveniently in their home.

If you're going to argue for a ban on a type of firearm because they are the worst, at least get the tool that commits the worst amount for your disdain right.

... the typical weapon used [in mass shootings] is a pistol, not an “assault weapon” like the semi-automatic AR-15 rifle. Assault weapons were used in 24.6 percent of mass shootings, handguns in 47.9 percent. And limiting the size of magazines weapons can carry wouldn’t help, they said, because any ban would impact new sales and “there is an ample supply of large capacity magazines already in circulation.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...s-used-in-most-mass-shootings/article/2542118

The worst mass shooting in American history (up until Orlando a few weeks ago) was the Virginia Tech shooting (33 killed) and he used two handguns, one of which (his .22 caliber) was the smallest round produced today.

Be honest, you gun grabbers don't want to ban rifles because they are the worst - you guys are just so shallow and ignorant you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

And FTR, shootings with mass victims aren't really on the rise...gun crimes - violent crimes for that matter - have been on the decline for years.

... [mass shootings] have long averaged in the 20s per year, rarely going over 25.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Than how's that that Japan have the strictest gun-regulation in the world and the lowest homicide rate in the world compared to the US with the highest number of gun per capita and nearly no gun-control have the highest homicide rate of all the western civilised countries ?

Horrific: 19 reported killed in knife attack at home for the disabled near Tokyo

That moment when Japan decides to fuck up your argument and they go whole hog. But then again, dipshits like you forget Shining Path Sarin gas attacks, The Rape Of Nanking and that whole Pearl Harbor thing.

My condolences to the victims families.

 

[BCsSecretAlias]

Horrific: 19 reported killed in knife attack at home for the disabled near Tokyo

That moment when Japan decides to fuck up your argument and they go whole hog. But then again, dipshits like you forget Shining Path Sarin gas attacks, The Rape Of Nanking and that whole Pearl Harbor thing.

My condolences to the victims families.

Beat me to it.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Knife control?

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Assault Knife Legislation is just around the corner. Contact the National Knife Association to preserve your right to cut stuff good.

That sounds about as stupid as the gun control debate. On both sides.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

If you're going to argue for a ban on a type of firearm because they are the worst, at least get the tool that commits the worst amount for your disdain right.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...s-used-in-most-mass-shootings/article/2542118

The worst mass shooting in American history (up until Orlando a few weeks ago) was the Virginia Tech shooting (33 killed) and he used two handguns, one of which (his .22 caliber) was the smallest round produced today.

Be honest, you gun grabbers don't want to ban rifles because they are the worst - you guys are just so shallow and ignorant you have no idea what you're talking about.

I see the usual suspects (Supadupafly?) have no answer for this one. Not surprised. Their ignorance (or rather, their true agenda - to ban most, if not all firearms) is easily exposed.

 

[Rey C.]

Than how's that that Japan have the strictest gun-regulation in the world and the lowest homicide rate in the world compared to the US with the highest number of gun per capita and nearly no gun-control have the highest homicide rate of all the western civilised countries ?

The violent crime rate (non-firearms related) in Japan is also much lower than it is in the U.S. (even though, as has been said, the violent crime rate in the U.S. has been declining for some time).

Guns aside, we have a higher crime rate (violent and nonviolent) than many/most developed Western countries. I'm not a sociologist, so I don't know exactly why. But we do.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

The violent crime rate (non-firearms related) in Japan is also much lower than it is in the U.S. (even though, as has been said, the violent crime rate in the U.S. has been declining for some time).

Guns aside, we have a higher crime rate (violent and nonviolent) than many/most developed Western countries. I'm not a sociologist, so I don't know exactly why. But we do.

Multiculturalim. That is the answer to your question.

 

[BCsSecretAlias]

Multiculturalim. That is the answer to your question.

And bingo was his name-o.