I **** this world

[pussy+dickdenice]

The days of Taliban is long gone in afganisthan. They are existing in pockets now. But the country was devasted with war from inside as well as from outside. The irony of the situation is Taliban became a frankenstine and turned on to its creator. This news is only a propaganda that is trying to justify a misdeed that boomeranged.

Its not the religion that is spurring the war. Its inequity on one side and high-handed attitude on the other end.

**** is too strong a word. Religion is a vehicle that is used by both the sides for furtherance of their own benifit, by spreading hatred. This news item is a burning example of the same. Look at the date of publication and search the history, you will find the duplicity.

 

[Baal]

People always talk about a fundamental difference in values between Islam and the west. Extremism is driven by fear, not by values. Religious extremists capitalize on the "you'll burn in hell if you dont do what your told factor" clear across the board.

BUSH WAS WRONG - There's no such thing as universal values...only universal fear which is commonly used to intimidate and enslave people in every culture. We are so freaking stupid! When are we going to **** up and take people like Ghandi seriously (anybody who's comfortable enough to wear a diaper his whole life is ok in my book)

He said: A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave...

I AM NOT AFRAID!

LOVE

SERAPH!!!

 

[member2686]

Zealots are zealots - period. Despite their "good intentions," religious zealots (in particula)r often become blind to common sense, civility, humanity, and morality.

Without diplomacy, the human "race" will founder, fail, and be extinguished altogether; we'll end up ******* one another over petty personal differences and greed.

:2 cents:

:hatsoff:

 

[Priapus]

Without diplomacy, the human "race" will founder, fail, and be extinguished altogether; we'll end up ******* one another over petty personal differences and greed.

:2 cents:

:hatsoff:

@ Nightfly: There was a episode of "The Outer Limit's" where these ant-like aliens came to earth, and brought their convicts with them, when asked why they would bring their prisoner's to earth they said that people on Earth are so good at ******* one another they would have no trouble dealing with these ***** prisoners.

I agree with you over ******* one another over petty differences and greed, if it isn't people were ******* it's the environment...just look at what the developers are doing to the state of Florida where I live.

 

[member2686]

It's simply astounding to me that we, as human beings, supposedly having "greater" intellects than any other living creature on Earth, fail to see what we're doing to ourselves. If we continue the intolerance of differences between one another, personal greed, and (for lack of a more polite term) ****-poor communication and rampant miscommunication with one another across the global geo-politcal environment, we'll be joining the dinosaurs in 1,000 years.

Frankly, it saddens me daily that people can't respect each other FOR WHO WE ARE, allow one another to think and believe differently than we do ourselves, and that all too often, ********, pain, and death are the result of our lack of civility.

I might sound like a ********-heart hippie, but to ME this is just common sense.

Anyway...

:2 cents: :hatsoff:

 

[pussy+dickdenice]

we'll be joining the dinosaurs in 1,000 years.

:2 cents: :hatsoff:

That's the only line I coudn't agree to, Nightfly. You should take out a zero and then we will be nearer the truth, IMO, the way things are going now.

People always talk about a fundamental difference in values between Islam and the west. Extremism is driven by fear, not by values. Religious extremists capitalize on the "you'll burn in hell if you dont do what your told factor" clear across the board.

BUSH WAS WRONG - There's no such thing as universal values...only universal fear which is commonly used to intimidate and enslave people in every culture. We are so freaking stupid! When are we going to **** up and take people like Ghandi seriously (anybody who's comfortable enough to wear a diaper his whole life is ok in my book)

He said: A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave...

These are the lines I was unable to decipher till now. Please enlighten me Seraph.

 

[pussy+dickdenice]

I agree with you over ******* one another over petty differences and greed, if it isn't people were *******, it's the environment...just look at what the developers are doing to the state of Florida where I live.

And yes, that's the surest & quickest way to **** all.

The developers are not only doing 'that' to Florida, but all over the world. But they are the minorities. I'm not their advocate but others are doing a lot more harm than those developers.

 

[member2686]

Conversion of Religion = Death?!

Just read this, please. I don't even want to comment on this situation at the moment - I'm too angry, frustrated, and confounded to comment with kindness about this zealotry.

"KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- Senior Muslim clerics are demanding that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to 'pull him into pieces.'"

I don't care if the man converted to thinking Winnie the Pooh or the Smurfs are God... This is insanity that he's going to be put to death for changing his faith in a country where the USA has supposedly LIBERATED the people from intolerant sexual, religious, sexist, economic oppresssion by the Taliban.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/03/23/afghan.christian.ap/index.html

 

[Xander00]

Re: Conversion of Religion = Death?!

it makes sense to me....
they're just taking after our president
pick a path and stick with it
noone can change their mind, no matter what

 

[KungFuDude]

Re: Conversion of Religion = Death?!

It's Barbarism versus Modernism. Its like they are still living in the dark ages.

 

[qweretyuiopas@]

Re: Conversion of Religion = Death?!

Suprised people raise their hands

(even if someone 'raises their hand' the fact I even make that statement is sad enough)

 

[Priapus]

Re: Conversion of Religion = Death?!

Some are also questioning whether he is mentally fit, under Sharia law, to go to trial in his case.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4832872.stm

 

[jod0565]

Re: Conversion of Religion = Death?!

There's a thread of this already.
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=69637

 

[Baal]

That's the only line I coudn't agree to, Nightfly. You should take out a zero and then we will be nearer the truth, IMO, the way things are going now.



These are the lines I was unable to decipher till now. Please enlighten me Seraph.

If we assume that religion and culture have the capacity to shape one another. It is quite possible that within Jewish, Christian and Islamic spheres (it is important to call them spheres as religion influences these cultural entities at different levels, and vice-versa), two emerging extremist voices have emerged in all three faiths which have increased occidentalism and xenophobia. The first voice is existential, the second is ideological. The existential voice implicitly capitalizes on the fear and is based on events. The ideological voice explicity capitalizes on beliefs and is based on perceptions shaped by events. If we are to accept the conventional Judeo-Christian - Islamic faultlines, we find that neither of these voices could exist without each other. In the case of the Danish cartoons, the inherent fears of the Islamization of Europe created the climate whereby more explicit forms of extremism could take root. As for the reaction by some Muslims, they likely viewed the cartoons as symbolic of the true viewpoints of Westerners, a perception fueled by a bitter legacy of imperialism in the Islamic world. Likewise, when Muslims desecrate Jewish or Christian religious symbols, they do so not out of self-sustained biggotry but ultimately out of fear-generated biggotry.

Many have written on the effect globalization has had on the proximity of values and core beliefs to one another. What is lacking is firm acknowledgement that such proximity will continue to require accomadation by all cultures and beliefs. Ideology which supports homogeneity has been seen by many extremists throughout history as the antidote to cultural globalization, a premise based on existential fears and history. Perpetuating this downward spiral does not bode well for the future. What is needed, but missing, is introspection and internalization by religious and secular people alike of the reality of the global community here and now. Also, acknowledging the well-known but rarely stated maxim that it is fear, rather than values that sows the seeds of extremism, and recognizing that this phenomenon is universal and applicable to all will help us lay these fears to rest for generations to come.

This is an excerpt of an article I wrote for work - enjoy!

 

[pussy+dickdenice]

What is needed, but missing, is introspection and internalization by religious and secular people alike of the reality of the global community here and now. Also, acknowledging the well-known but rarely stated maxim that it is fear, rather than values that sows the seeds of extremism, and recognizing that this phenomenon is universal and applicable to all will help us lay these fears to rest for generations to come.

Right, but who is going to bell the proverbial cat?

 

[Peter Gazinya]

Originally Posted by seraph
What is needed, but missing, is introspection and internalization by religious and secular people alike of the reality of the global community here and now. Also, acknowledging the well-known but rarely stated maxim that it is fear, rather than values that sows the seeds of extremism, and recognizing that this phenomenon is universal and applicable to all will help us lay these fears to rest for generations to come.

That's really nice lip service to a situation that's existed since the beginning of time. Fucked up people, I mean religious and secular people have had thousands of years to introspect, internalize, and acknowledge this universal phenomenon yet they don't appear to make strides toward becoming any sort of champions of human civility.

There is no hope that all the fucked up wacko nuts of the world will ever stop living off fear and ****. They've had ample time to change and they've made it abundantly clear that they won't.

And, oh yeah one more thing. George W. Bush couldn't give a flying fuck if this guy lives or dies. But we all knew that didn't we?

 

[Baal]

Right, but who is going to bell the proverbial cat?

Ahhhh. I work with a group of tireless folk trying to do just that ;-)

Chances are if you've ever reached out to someone in your life, ever lifted a finger to help someone in need, ever looked beyond your own perspective and accepted (not tolerated) someone who seemed fundamentally different then you....

Than you allready have :thumbsup:

Peace

Seraph

 

[Baal]

There is no hope that all the fucked up wacko nuts of the world will ever stop living off fear and ****. They've had ample time to change and they've made it abundantly clear that they won't./

:fight:
You might be right - but what gives them the right to dictate their views to the vast majority of humanity that doesn't or doesn't want to see life through that lens? The real crime is that normal people buy into the bs these idiots spout, which by the way exist in every corner of the known world, far more than they look the other way. We are sheep being led to the slaughter in that regard. You see thats the problem with religion - the "holy" books teach us to trust our own and distrust others...

We either evolve or die....

But its not predestined...

At the end of the day, we DO have a choice...

 

[pussy+dickdenice]

There is no hope that all the fucked up wacko nuts of the world will ever stop living off fear and ****. They've had ample time to change and they've made it abundantly clear that they won't.

:fight:
You might be right - but what gives them the right to dictate their views to the vast majority of humanity that doesn't or doesn't want to see life through that lens? The real crime is that normal people buy into the bs these idiots spout, which by the way exist in every corner of the known world, far more than they look the other way. We are sheep being led to the slaughter in that regard. You see thats the problem with religion - the "holy" books teach us to trust our own and distrust others...

We either evolve or die....

But its not predestined...

At the end of the day, we DO have a choice...

You know about that ***'s trail?

It goes like this:

A small baby-lamb danced through a trail, It meandered, back-tacked but reached from point A to point B.

A wolf tracked the baby-lamb.

A hunter tracked the wolf.

And at the end, a road was constructed on that ***'s trail. First villages then cities came up by the side of the road.

Humanity has always followed that path. Are they going to change overnight?

But I have faith. May be Seraph's group of tireless workers will make the difference. I on my part, I try the way I know best.

 

[Peter Gazinya]

Re: RUn Abdul Run!!!!!!!!!!!

In a rare moment of common sense in this fucking world, Abdul got set free!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12022144/

Good luck dude!