I think Glenn Beck Will Have a Real Breakdown Very Soon!!

[Philbert]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

I'm sorry....was there a point in all of this blather other than more off-topic mumbo jumbo about 'Mega and not the current subject??

Yeah, Obama is covertly attempting to pass health care by availing kids of the value of an education and staying in school. How is that suppose to work exactly??? You know, the part where a speech to school kids is suppose convince congress to pass health care reform??

BTW, the quote you cited wasn't even address to "PV"....Even as such, what fact was twisted assuming you understand what constitutes a policy?

Obama is right, some people shouldn't have taken education for granted.


You get no argument from me on whether or not some in the electorate are clueless. I just addressed one in this response who somehow envisions Obama magically passing health care by addressing school kids.

Needless to there were just as many on the other side babbling about Obama being "terrrist", not an American citizen as well as the the single issue "Bush will keep us safe" crowd....You know you don't want to get into the who's crowd is battier debate do you.

You're trying to be devastatingly sarcasctic with your comment about blather and off-topic comments, huh...I guess that education you took for granted didn't stick too long. This...is ...the...rag...on...Glenn...Beck...thread.
(Was that slow enough for you?)
Most all of your blathering posts here have been off-topic...not that you really care, just thought I'd point that small fact out.
So...I must assume you are referring to yourself with the "education for granted" statement...but I am actually excited to finally be able to read Obama's speech to the schools...will you please post the link to the text of his speech, the one he was gonna give last week and not the one he has changed in the last few days? But even that one would be nice to read and see what he's gonna say...
Obviously you wouldn't make a false statement referring to a speech he is making unless you have read it and know what he's gonna say...so where's the link?

 

[Mrs Jolly]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

:wtf: Yes because once the GOP nominated Palin for the VP everyone began disliking the US. You really believe that? :rofl: Anti-Americanism was going on in the 70's 80's and 90's it did not start with Sarah Palin being nominated for the VP position in 2008.

Jason are you responding to a different post?



Nowhere do I mention feelings of anti-americanism, period. Never mind when these feelings began, who they are held by, what caused them etc. Damage to reputation is not the same as harboring feelings of ill will. Sometimes these states are conjoined but they can be mutually exclusive, do I need to restate this or supply examples? Damage to reputation is usually most problematical when felt by those who are not already antagonistic to the other party. ie your allies.

The global spotlight on Sara Palin exposed some aspects of the US election system. One of these aspects, namely the need for a GOP ticket to cater to what is commonly referred to as "the base" resulted in the selection of an extremely ill prepared candidate. The dissapointment at her patent in adequacy was felt across the spectrum. I pointed dissenters towards the Murdoch press (Murdoch is usually thought of as pro-american/pro-capitalism etc. perhaps you know different.) based outside of the US. The Times of London would be a good place to start.

If you had investigated (and why do I think that you couldn't be arsed and just crapped on from a position of ignorance?) you would have stumbled across some quite scathing criticism of the govenor. All this from the flagship european publication of one of, if not, the primary media supporter of the GOP.

In your haste to address, well I'm not sure what, you went off at a tangent to have a comic conversation with yourself regarding the brief history of the vague forces of "anti americanism" that began in 70's, or something. All very illuminating - for your therapist. In what manner it addressed anything I talked about I have no idea. Perhaps you could illuminate?

 

[Facial_King]

http://wagist.com/images/political/education.jpg

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

So...I must assume you are referring to yourself with the "education for granted" statement...but I am actually excited to finally be able to read Obama's speech to the schools...will you please post the link to the text of his speech, the one he was gonna give last week and not the one he has changed in the last few days? But even that one would be nice to read and see what he's gonna say...
Obviously you wouldn't make a false statement referring to a speech he is making unless you have read it and know what he's gonna say...so where's the link?

Well actually I liked education so much I decide to pursue and earn more than one degree.

With respect to Obama's proposed addresses, I don't need to read syllable of either of them to be able to say conclusively that no matter what's in them...they will in no way impact as you suggest his ability to pass health care.

But let's deal with what we do know. It was claimed that Obama was to talk to these school kids about the value of an education, to stay in school and apparently the worst of it was suggesting they write a letter to him saying how they would help him. Can I assume we agree on that?

If so, how do you interpret brainwashing from that? When you consider a person's response to the open ended question of how you can help them could result in any kind of response. Some could suggest he resign, become a republican, fish more, watch loony tunes or anything.

How is his request automatically assumed it is a specific request about his policies if no such suggestion is apparent??

This is a nothing issue and I can't honestly believe people (including myself) are seriously giving the subject the time of day. As if you're talking to someone stupid enough to buy such nonsense that a speech to school kids...(something done numerous times before by previous presidents) will somehow indoctrinate them....you're certainly not going to make any sense to people willing to be that stupid.

Case in point. I saw a guy interviewed this morning who objected to Obama's speech. His two points for objection? He didn't want his kids indoctrinated on how to become a "community organizer" and he didn't want Obama asking his kids to help him. Doofus.

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

You're trying to be devastatingly sarcasctic with your comment about blather and off-topic comments, huh...I guess that education you took for granted didn't stick too long. This...is ...the...rag...on...Glenn...Beck...thread.
(Was that slow enough for you?)
Most all of your blathering posts here have been off-topic...not that you really care, just thought I'd point that small fact out.
So...I must assume you are referring to yourself with the "education for granted" statement...but I am actually excited to finally be able to read Obama's speech to the schools...will you please post the link to the text of his speech, the one he was gonna give last week and not the one he has changed in the last few days? But even that one would be nice to read and see what he's gonna say...
Obviously you wouldn't make a false statement referring to a speech he is making unless you have read it and know what he's gonna say...so where's the link?

Most of my responses in threads (unlike yours) are responses to points made by people in the thread about subjects that are brought up in the thread.

You write paragraph after paragraph aimlessly whining about and nagging other posters.

Was that slow enough for you??

Do you ever add anything of gravity to a subject to be considered. Not that I've seen...you reserve all of you energy apparently to talk about other posters and make claims you never or inadequately (woefully at times) substantiate.

 

[Hot Mega]

http://wagist.com/images/political/education.jpg

"Spot on chap! Spot on.:rofl:

 

[jasonk282]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

Jason are you responding to a different post?



Nowhere do I mention feelings of anti-americanism, period. Never mind when these feelings began, who they are held by, what caused them etc. Damage to reputation is not the same as harboring feelings of ill will. Sometimes these states are conjoined but they can be mutually exclusive, do I need to restate this or supply examples? Damage to reputation is usually most problematical when felt by those who are not already antagonistic to the other party. ie your allies.

The global spotlight on Sara Palin exposed some aspects of the US election system. One of these aspects, namely the need for a GOP ticket to cater to what is commonly referred to as "the base" resulted in the selection of an extremely ill prepared candidate. The dissapointment at her patent in adequacy was felt across the spectrum. I pointed dissenters towards the Murdoch press (Murdoch is usually thought of as pro-american/pro-capitalism etc. perhaps you know different.) based outside of the US. The Times of London would be a good place to start.

If you had investigated (and why do I think that you couldn't be arsed and just crapped on from a position of ignorance?) you would have stumbled across some quite scathing criticism of the govenor. All this from the flagship european publication of one of, if not, the primary media supporter of the GOP.

In your haste to address, well I'm not sure what, you went off at a tangent to have a comic conversation with yourself regarding the brief history of the vague forces of "anti americanism" that began in 70's, or something. All very illuminating - for your therapist. In what manner it addressed anything I talked about I have no idea. Perhaps you could illuminate?

you wrote in post #252 that "Her mere candidacy alone damaged the reputation of the US abroad". So hence what i posted about anti-americanism through the years and our already damaged rep through the world.

 

[Facial_King]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

you wrote in post #252 that "Her mere candidacy alone damaged the reputation of the US abroad". So hence what i posted about anti-americanism through the years and our already damaged rep through the world.

That doesn't indicate anything about anti-Americanism. Many people who care about America and like/love it were very disappointed/upset/discouraged/saddened to see such an anti-intellectual reactionary get the VP nomination. If they hated the USA they would've embraced her candidacy. Think, jason, THINK!

 

[Friday on my mind]

http://wagist.com/images/political/education.jpg

:1orglaugh:thumbsup:

 

[Philbert]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

Most of my responses in threads (unlike yours) are responses to points made by people in the thread about subjects that are brought up in the thread.

You write paragraph after paragraph aimlessly whining about and nagging other posters.

Was that slow enough for you??

Do you ever add anything of gravity to a subject to be considered. Not that I've seen...you reserve all of you energy apparently to talk about other posters and make claims you never or inadequately (woefully at times) substantiate.

All I read in that post is a wriggling away from the questions asked...as usual.
Again...How do you justify critisizing someone for posting off-topic when your nearly entire body of posts in this thread is off-topic?(No answer...loud silence)
How do you explain asking me how I know something to be so if I wasn't told directly by Obama what he was doing...and then not posting the link to his speech where you read what he was going to say? ( No answer...loud silence).
You said specifically " ...Obama can barely tell the children of his country the value of an education and encourage them to think with a writing exercise ...", Obama is covertly attempting to pass health care by... (obvious sarcasm) availing kids of the value of an education and staying in school...", pretty specific claims on the content of his speech...and what almost every person speaking out against his most likely agenda-laden school speech has said would be fine, but they don't trust the Prez and his admin (Van Jones sure showed that to be a good idea!); so they'd prefer the agenda driven, anything goes Dem admin of Barak (Rev. Who? Never heard a word in 20+ years!) Hussein Obama stay away from the schools with speeches and before/after-speech classroom activities to avoid any problems.
I get that that is too objective to register in your mono-agenda-driven mind...so just answer the questions about your hypocritical statements and where you actually read his speech...don't worry about all my posts you never read or conveniently forgot, don't worry about being inconsistent (I noticed that you have no problem doing that!), just answer the few easy questions I posed to you a post or 2 ago...or continue wriggling out of the line of fire. Whatever...

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: Taking on Joe and Jane American ...

All I read in that post is a wriggling away from the questions asked...as usual.
Again...How do you justify critisizing someone for posting off-topic when your nearly entire body of posts in this thread is off-topic?(No answer...loud silence)

I don't know what other language you understand but here it is again in English....

Most of my responses in threads (unlike yours) are responses to points made by people in the thread about subjects that are brought up in the thread.

You write paragraph after paragraph aimlessly whining about and nagging other posters.

Was that slow enough for you??

How do you explain asking me how I know something to be so if I wasn't told directly by Obama what he was doing...and then not posting the link to his speech where you read what he was going to say? ( No answer...loud silence).

Well then HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU BITCHING if you are now conceding you don't know what the fuck he was going to say????

You said specifically " ...Obama can barely tell the children of his country the value of an education and encourage them to think with a writing exercise ...", Obama is covertly attempting to pass health care by availing kids of the value of an education and staying in school...", pretty specific claims on the content of his speech...

Now I see you're full of shit. You're mixing and matching things that I've stated in different responses in different contexts to different people to either babble just to keep from not saying anything or intentionally confuse others on what was said by me in this thread. Unfortunately for you it won't work because others can read the exact posts I made and in the particular context I made them.

You're trying to attribute to me a position I clearly accused you of believing.

YOU'RE THE ONE who mentioned Obama trying to pass health care by somehow speaking to school kids.

Your exact, asinine quote;

and they are not willing to see what procedure he is gonna use to work the kids for getting his healthcare meltdown passed in some form or another...he doesn't care which.

My exact questions in response to that mumbo jumbo....to which you STILL NEVER answered;

Yeah, Obama is covertly attempting to pass health care by availing kids of the value of an education and staying in school. How is that suppose to work exactly??? You know, the part where a speech to school kids is suppose convince congress to pass health care reform??

and what almost every person speaking out against his most likely agenda-laden school speech has said would be fine, but they don't trust the Prez and his admin (Van Jones sure showed that to be a good idea!); so they'd prefer the agenda driven, anything goes Dem admin of Barak (Rev. Who? Never heard a word in 20+ years!) Hussein Obama stay away from the schools with speeches and before/after-speech classroom activities to avoid any problems.
I get that that is too objective to register in your mono-agenda-driven mind...so just answer the questions about your hypocritical statements and where you actually read his speech...don't worry about all my posts you never read or conveniently forgot, don't worry about being inconsistent (I noticed that you have no problem doing that!), just answer the few easy questions I posed to you a post or 2 ago...or continue wriggling out of the line of fire. Whatever...

^^More silly drivel....either you can't read or you just ignore what you find too difficult or inconvenient to address. This is what I said;

But let's deal with what we do know. It was claimed that Obama was to talk to these school kids about the value of an education, to stay in school and apparently the worst of it was suggesting they write a letter to him saying how they would help him. Can I assume we agree on that?

 

[Jane Burgess]

If he's attempting to "plant" something in their minds Jane B, then clearly he must have been willing to have them to write to him about a specific policy in HIS agenda right?? If that's not the case, how on earth is he planting anything??? Some of these kids could have political differences with him and write him a well thought letter extolling the virtues of their policy disagreement believing that would "help". Speaking of thinking for one's self, did that thought ever occur to you??

I don't care how much you personally hate Obama since any time someone is willing to sell a load of bullshit about him you're apparently not only right there to buy it but engage in all sorts of mental gymnastics in order to rationalize it. I just respond on point to ANY POINT on ANY TOPIC I'm interested in on this forum....not just Obama threads.



Well, I hate to break it to you but these weren't any kids these were kids in a country we'd gone to war with. Going to war is a policy, one GWB effected...Now as much as I believe it was necessary to undertake this particular policy...there are people in America with kids who don't.

Aside from that, when we invaded Afghanistan and deposed their government that was one policy. When we assumed the responsibility for rebuilding their country and it's infrastructure....that's another policy. When we decided to aid their people (including their kids) that's another policy.

Understanding that, how on earth do you vision in your mind that's not asking them for help with his policy??? We wouldn't be in Afghanistan worrying about their kids in this particular instance but for his policies.

Obama can barely tell the children of his country the value of an education and encourage them to think with a writing exercise without batty assed loons accusing him of brainwashing them...Imagine if he'd ask them to volunteer themselves to raise money aiding a policy of his.

You are a typical Democrat. Everything is the GOP's fault. Even when it is the Democrat's fault, you will spin it to try and make it look like it isn't. The fact that people actually believe him and all his lies is scary as hell. Enjoy your freedoms while you can, because if he has his way they will not be many left.:2 cents:

 

[Jane Burgess]

Here is a link to his speech. That is if he actually says what is written here. http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks


This is what I have an issue with.

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf

 

[Hot Mega]

You are a typical Democrat. Everything is the GOP's fault. Even when it is the Democrat's fault, you will spin it to try and make it look like it isn't. The fact that people actually believe him and all his lies is scary as hell. Enjoy your freedoms while you can, because if he has his way they will not be many left.:2 cents:

Should I even consider this a response to the post I replied to you with??? 'Cause you're rambling about things that weren't even in my post.

But while we're at it....

1.) I'm an Independent

2. Where did I blame GOPers for anything in the post you responded to?

3. (And this is hilarious!) You bemoan the fact that people believe a man who hasn't once lied to them as "scary as hell" but in the next breath you beseech us to enjoy our freedoms while we can.:1orglaugh

Jane B...uh what "freedoms" should we fear being stripped of under Obama....never mind...don't even worry about answering...since you haven't even answered my last questions :rofl:

 

[Friday on my mind]

I wonder what Hannity and Beck and most other conservatives would think of porn/erotica? Actually I don't wonder, I know they think its immoral and one of the things that has gone wrong about our culture.But were suppose to be worried about dems and Obama taking away freedoms.

 

[Hot Mega]

Here is a link to his speech. That is if he actually says what is written here. http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks


This is what I have an issue with.

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf

Okay, what specifically in there do you have issues with???

 

[Facial_King]

Jane, what are your issues - specifically - with the lessons (in the PDFs that you linked to) ??

Did you have issues with his speech, as well??

Read it, full text, here:
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7916

 

[Jane Burgess]

Not to be rude Hot Mega and Facial King but it would not matter if I listed my issues. They are also not with his speech. All it would do is get the two of you to go on and on for days about how he is a great man and that the bad Republicans are out to get him for no reason.

If either of you had the actual ability to listen to what someone said and not try to argue with them on what they think, then more people would post in these threads. Instead these threads have been taken over by the two of you.

 

[Guido11]

I'm wondering what her issues are too. That stuff looks like things I would do when I was in elementary and middle school, in the 80s.

Unless there's some sort of hidden code in there, that only kids can see, it looks like it's a speech to help children set goals, and actually create steps to achieve them.

That's a bad thing? Seriously?

 

[Hot Mega]

Not to be rude Hot Mega and Facial King but it would not matter if I listed my issues. They are also not with his speech. All it would do is get the two of you to go on and on for days about how he is a great man and that the bad Republicans are out to get him for no reason.

If either of you had the actual ability to listen to what someone said and not try to argue with them on what they think, then more people would post in these threads. Instead these threads have been taken over by the two of you.

I've never said Obama was great. But some of the silliness posted here and expressed by his opponents is so easy to refute it really shouldn't matter how someone feels about him or any other POTUS. I mean really, it's just that simple.

Personally what I see of Obama's speech and those pdfs objectively is a POTUS who is actually using the available technology to pay more than lip service to a cause. And actually do something with meaning as opposed to showing up for a photo op and play like he's reading along while holding a book upside down or telling a kid to put an "e" that doesn't belong at the end of a word, take a few pictures and then head out.

I'm wondering what her issues are too. That stuff looks like things I would do when I was elementary and middle school, in the 80s.

Unless there's some sort of hidden code in there, that only kids can see, it looks like it's a speech to help children set goals, and actually create steps to achieve them.

That's a bad thing? Seriously?

No shit...