And exactly how is Obama to be credited for this?
Hey Republicans! Tax Payers are Helping Fortune 500 Companies Pay Their Employees!
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And exactly how is Obama to be credited for this?
And you of all people with this bullshit when you have a thread signed by you railing about the Fed being the biggest scam in US history! HAHAHAHA
cool. I remember that in one of the episode of CSI miami, he played a criminal, he was awesome in the role
Mayhem
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First of all, let's go back to just about every campaign speech every Republican made last year.
But the main point to that particular post is to point out that American businesses don't seem to be suffering. I think this fits in well with the topic and with the direction the conversation has been going.
Petra
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You know what I'd kind of like to see but will NEVER happen because it's a socialist agenda? Raise taxes and give supplements to those making minimum wage as long as there's a.) a valid reason they can't move up the pay ladder or move out to a better paying job and b.) to those who can't get anything better at the time (i.e. got layed off) provided they prove they are making an effort to live on their current wage by down sizing their household and show they are applying for other jobs/going to school.
THAT I support because it takes care of those who really can't take care of themselves (those that for whatever reason can't move up or out) and it takes care of those who just fell on some bad luck and are working their asses off to make do and better their lives.
I can't support just raising the minimum to raise it because as someone else said, it's a short term solution and then things will go back as inflation catches up. However, it'll never happen because American society would have to pay into it so the haves give to the have nots. However, it's perfectly OK to make all businesses pay into it for some reason.
It's been almost 13 years since I quit my job as shift manager at McDonalds, but I remember the finances since I did the daily books. The store had the biggest indoor playland in the region, we'd probably have a few school buses stop late at night during highschool sports season, and there was an event center down the road and we'd get extra sales whenever there was a convention, hockey game or concert. IF none of that was happening, the store made between $40,000 to $50,000 a day. Sometimes more, sometimes less. At the time I was doing the books, I was also doing payroll and giving raises. In 2000 the WA state minimum wage was $6.50 an hour (adults tended to make about $3 more than minimum after a year) and we had about 10 people on the floor through the day. We employed about 30 people at that store and then another 15 at another store we ran.
So yea, these are some old numbers but add a bit for modern day numbers and there you go.
bobjustbob
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Thank you Petra. $9.50 per hr. 13 years ago was a very livable wage. Nothing to start a family with but comfortable enough for a single to live on. 50k with 10 on the floor is a cranking store. Were you 24 hrs. or 6 to midnight?
Petra
Cult Mother and Simpering Cunt
We were 6-1am (probably 24/7 now). Dining room closed at 11 and then we kept the drive thru open the last 2 hours that we cleaned up.
bobjustbob
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$9.50 hr. brings home $1350 mo. A quick search of NJ will pull up a plethora of 1 bedroom apartments for $800 or less. Not in ghetto either. Can you live in a studio? The 700s open wide up. If you can't live on that last 600 bucks then you need to learn budgeting. Mind you that I am using today's rental prices. Make meals that you can bag for lunch. Eat leftovers a few times per week. Live without HBO and phone apps. Like I said before, this is not luxury but certainly livable. Do some overtime or find a part time thing to live better.
25% of college grads don't have jobs? It's been that way for a hundred fucking years. People graduate with degrees in art history and sociology and political science etc. That sheep's skin doesn't carry jack shit when you graduate. You enter a job market competing with people that have been hands on. Only after getting your hands dirty will anyone look at your degree. Business degrees were a very popular major back when I went to college. Then they get out into the market. Am I going to hire someone that thinks they are going to push their pencil and solve MY situation? Not till I've seen your feet on my floor.
You may not realize this Mariah, but I admire you for being a business person. I could have started some of my own but I never had the stomach for it. Risking other people's money on me as an investment just isn't in my blood. I am very comfortable risking my own money on a hand of cards or a horse. That's my decision to risk my own money. I don't have to answer to anyone else.
25% of college grads don't have jobs? It's been that way for a hundred fucking years. People graduate with degrees in art history and sociology and political science etc. That sheep's skin doesn't carry jack shit when you graduate. You enter a job market competing with people that have been hands on. Only after getting your hands dirty will anyone look at your degree. Business degrees were a very popular major back when I went to college. Then they get out into the market. Am I going to hire someone that thinks they are going to push their pencil and solve MY situation? Not till I've seen your feet on my floor.
You may not realize this Mariah, but I admire you for being a business person. I could have started some of my own but I never had the stomach for it. Risking other people's money on me as an investment just isn't in my blood. I am very comfortable risking my own money on a hand of cards or a horse. That's my decision to risk my own money. I don't have to answer to anyone else.
Mariahxxx
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so 1350 BEFORE taxes then 800 month + transportation + utilities + food and you think that's enough to live on?
Yes 25% without jobs, and our current economy is the worst on record for college graduates. and already strapped with enormous debt from student loans. Not to mention the credit cards that prey on college students with enormous interest rates.
and yes Petra made that money 13 years ago and those wages are exactly the same that they are today. costs of everything have increased, but those wages are the same.
Yes 25% without jobs, and our current economy is the worst on record for college graduates. and already strapped with enormous debt from student loans. Not to mention the credit cards that prey on college students with enormous interest rates.
and yes Petra made that money 13 years ago and those wages are exactly the same that they are today. costs of everything have increased, but those wages are the same.
bobjustbob
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No, no. Bring home 1350. That's after taxes. $9.50 x 40 hrs. After taxes that's $311.33 wk. That x 52 weeks = 16200 yr. Divided by 12 months is 1350.
Students today, and their parents, are saddled with a HUGE burden of college costs. Back in my day, students got a qualify grant for passing the state regents exam. Go to a school in your state and get reduced tuition. I know of a school that would give a large grant just for playing bagpipes. I ain't shitting you on that. Anyone, I am saying, ANYONE, could get a 2% loan from a bank to finance all other costs. I don't play bagpipes but I got through college and paid my loan on time. Tons of programs were there for anyone with any situation.
The 2% is gone and so are many of the other programs. Kids that had nothing more than good grades from the shittiest schools in our system had a way to go to college. They went I'm glad they had the opportunity. Better to spend 4 years away from home with books than at home looking for something to do. Sure, when you graduate there may not be a job waiting for you. But 4 years out of high school with the hopes of finding a job is better than 4 years of more xbox.
It ain't easy out here, IT NEVER WAS. It's been a struggle since the first of us came off the fucking boat. You paid your ticket to get here. That doesn't entitle you to shit. We all believe in helping our brother but brother, learn to help yourself.
Students today, and their parents, are saddled with a HUGE burden of college costs. Back in my day, students got a qualify grant for passing the state regents exam. Go to a school in your state and get reduced tuition. I know of a school that would give a large grant just for playing bagpipes. I ain't shitting you on that. Anyone, I am saying, ANYONE, could get a 2% loan from a bank to finance all other costs. I don't play bagpipes but I got through college and paid my loan on time. Tons of programs were there for anyone with any situation.
The 2% is gone and so are many of the other programs. Kids that had nothing more than good grades from the shittiest schools in our system had a way to go to college. They went I'm glad they had the opportunity. Better to spend 4 years away from home with books than at home looking for something to do. Sure, when you graduate there may not be a job waiting for you. But 4 years out of high school with the hopes of finding a job is better than 4 years of more xbox.
It ain't easy out here, IT NEVER WAS. It's been a struggle since the first of us came off the fucking boat. You paid your ticket to get here. That doesn't entitle you to shit. We all believe in helping our brother but brother, learn to help yourself.
I graduated in December and while there's no guarantee, I'm better off with a college degree than without it that's for sure.
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I graduated in December and while there's no guarantee, I'm better off with a college degree than without it that's for sure.
bobjustbob
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If education is a patrician issue then judge me as you will. Parents have an obligation to their children and need to have active participation in their upbringing. I'm not saying this is easy but the fundamentals haven't changed. Get your kid up and out the door. Make sure when they come home, their homework is done and checked before they go back out. Slack off on this and the kid will take advantage of it. A kid at 16 being able to quit school is a situation that hampers the parent. I know the reasoning is that the 16 year old MAY be needed to help support the house but let's be serious, shouldn't that be the parent's decision and not the kid's? Less kids out on the street at night getting into trouble. Let me toss in here that I am also for school uniforms.
These better prepared children for future education should also have a place to go to school. Safer streets would move policing money into the college system. You want to hear radical thinking? Make parents responsible for their kids till they are 21. There is a big difference between a 21 year old educated than a 16 yo given the decision to quit school. Make these kids stay in school that long. Also fund these kids to stay in school that long.
These better prepared children for future education should also have a place to go to school. Safer streets would move policing money into the college system. You want to hear radical thinking? Make parents responsible for their kids till they are 21. There is a big difference between a 21 year old educated than a 16 yo given the decision to quit school. Make these kids stay in school that long. Also fund these kids to stay in school that long.
SabrinaDeep
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I subscribe this too, but don't forget Mariah: they are all what you call Republicans when it comes to pay. You have had a successful career in porn and you should know well. It's not about Reps or Dems. It' about assholes. Ask Mr Dem Barack Obama: if i'm not wrong he is still the President of The U.S. of A. under which the shit that you are rightly exposing is happening. Oh...and the troops are still in Iraq...Not that they were elsewhere or that people working at MCD were being paid more when the Reps were in charge...exactly my point. Maybe the ppl working at MCD could do something to improve their situation, but yeah...they are too busy going to occupy WS and protest against matters which are 1000's of miles away from the American sole. You'll hate me, but America is in a coma because Americans are in a coma, no matters if they are Ds or Rs.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
No truer words could be spoken. :hatsoff: Putting faith in a political party (any political party) to solve the problems of the people is folly, IMO. Political parties only exist to serve their own interests. If the average American would devote 25% of the time they spend on following sports to gaining ACTUAL knowledge about what's going on with the republic (and no, I don't mean listening to talk radio or TV talking heads) and another 25% to gaining technical skills, we would all be so much better off and there'd still be plenty of fuck-off time to spare.
There is an election for governor in my state next week. We will be lucky to get a 40%+ voter turnout. Disgusting! Isn't voting mandatory in many European countries? You'd think you wouldn't even have to make people exercise that important right!
As for the minimum wage being raised... as I mentioned before, I have no objection to it being raised from where it is now. The only question is how to decide how much and how often it should be raised. There are higher skill jobs that don't pay a mint. So I'm thinking that if you raise it to too high a level, you'd possibly create unacceptable upward wage pressure across the board. Maybe tie it to Congressional pay raises. Even the most worthless kid in the world, who can barely flip a hamburger without burning it, probably deserves a raise at least as much as any Congress Critter.
Mariahxxx
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Sabrina - there are still troops in Iraq?? Why would I hate you for what you said?
And Rey you raise the wage in accordance with the rate of production and increases in costs of living. That's the argument congress makes when it votes itself a raise, so why not grant the same to the rest of the country?
And Rey you raise the wage in accordance with the rate of production and increases in costs of living. That's the argument congress makes when it votes itself a raise, so why not grant the same to the rest of the country?
Post of the week, right here. The last sentence is fantastic.
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