Hey Republicans! Tax Payers are Helping Fortune 500 Companies Pay Their Employees!

Mariahxxx

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Because of the video that was posted this week where the McDonald's employee was advised by McDonalds to go on food stamps, the discussion for wages has regained some momentum. I have been saying that the minimum wage should be higher like everyone else has. But the fuck stick republicans whine and bitch and moan and say "they should get better jobs!" forgetting altogether that their fuck stick president decimated our economy. Not everyone has had opportunities to go to college. Not everyone has the IQ that you have. Some people have kids young and don't have many options. Some were in the military and weren't paid shit. Some are working wherever they can because it's better than not working and living off of the government.

The average fast food employee is not a high school student. They are 29 years old. Some are retirees trying to stay active and supplement their income. But most are adults. Many with kids trying to stay alive and feed their families. The average hourly wage for a fast food worker is $8.69 an hour. So what does that mean? The republicans yell and scream and bitch and moan how raising the minimum wage would cost too much to the companies.

Well how much is it costing the American tax payer that more than half of fast food employees and all minimum wage employees are on food stamps and SNAP and WICK and Medicaid because they work 40 hours a week and still can't afford to live?

Mitt Romney and Michelle Bachmann and Ted Cruz and Newt Gingrich all say that there shouldn't be a minimum wage. They say that way companies could hire people at any level. So to get this straight, paying people already below living wage incomes isn't enough. They want to pay people even less. Got it. Then they bitch about too many people on government assistance. Got it. The people are shocked when a 35 year old guy making pizzas jerks off on someone's meat lover pizza. Got it.

So a company like McDonalds for example, who makes tens of BILLIONS of dollars in profit every year gets the luxury of paying their employees as little as possible and then all of us, the tax payers, get to pay their employees the rest of what they don't want to so that they can live?

So BC and the rest of "You Guys" why not raise the minimum wage so that the companies who makes billions of dollars in profit pay their employees a living wage so the rest of us don't have to? How does that NOT make sense? You bitch about taxes and people on assistance til your faces are red, yet this is the result of profit over people. THIS is what YOU get from YOUR view of the world. I know I know, you will just say "Fuck em. We should just get rid of all assistance for everyone" as wonderful as that would be for your goal of the US being a manageable 3rd world country, it isn't going to happen.

As more and more WORKING people become reliant on government programs, where do you think that leaves the republican party in the future since they are against raising wages AND government assistance? It also breeds an entire generation of people on tax payer payroll which is bad for everyone. The fact that people working 40 hours a week still qualify for assistance tells you how fucked up this is. And these are people who could just stop working and take the handouts, but they don't. They get up and go to work and still can't afford to live.

So take your pick. Shit wages and bigger profits and more tax money spent making up the difference for these people or make these companies that make BILLIONS of dollars in profit pay their employees more. Even to me, an uneducated former porn star the answer to that is very obvious. So let's see what the educated people think.


"Paying employees is one of those unfortunate necessities of running a business. Just like taxes and buying materials and making a product. If you want a tax free enterprise that makes a ton of profit selling nothing, just start a religion" - Bill Maher
 
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georges

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Suscribed too. Good subject because in France, we face the same problem, the wages haven't been raised but the taxes have skyrocketed literally. Yes, I agree that the minimum wage should be raised to get a certain decency and comfort of living to the employees. Bonuses must be given to the employees if they have done a better turnover or have better output than the other months. Same in France a lot of Mc Donalds employees are not teenagers but people in their 30's as well as sometimes some retired personnel which is also employed as cashiers in supermarkets or assistants in retirement homes. Also in France, the more money you earn, the more you pay taxes. Also the income varies with the working experience and with the educational level. You know how influential and how conservative are the fortune 500 companies high ranking staff, when they take a decision it has always to do with money and with price/profitability ratio. They don't look on the social aspect of things but on the financial aspect of things. It is the also banks that are responsible of the mess, remember the first financial bubble that happened in 1997 in Asia and then second financial bubble that happened in America in 2008, perhaps by tightening rules to the max with bankers and traders who work at the stock exchange, things would be different. I have a difficulty to see the IMF not saying anything to the huge increase of the debt of America with all this overspending in order to implement Obamacare. I think that the republican party will always have their voters and same goes for democrats but you need to ask yourself the question do the CEOs and all the higher execs and board of directors of these fortune 500 companies agree to raise wages and to pay more taxes to give this social assistance? That is the question to ask. On the other hand, there are wealthy people who are not belonging to fortune 500 companies who contribute to the society in other way. See for example Bill Gates and Gary Sinise who give a lot of money to charities and poor people aside paying their taxes.
 

Mariahxxx

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I gotta be honest georges, i cringed when I saw you had replied lol I was expecting something different and I have to say this was a surprising response. You almost seemed compassionate and human lol :)

Bill Gates is a democract. he is for higher taxes on the wealthy. so is Warren Buffet. So are many very wealthy people.

In all fairness georges if a company that makes $10 billion dollars a year in profit has to take $100 million out of their profit they won't even feel it and it goes towards the greater good of their employees who let's not forget, are also customers. if you take away someone's ability to buy things then it hurts those exact same companies.

we are creating a society of people who can only eat at fast food and shop at walmart. then when they are overweight and sick who pays the bill? medicaid aka tax payers.

how is that a good thing?
 

georges

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I gotta be honest georges, i cringed when I saw you had replied lol I was expecting something different and I have to say this was a surprising response. You almost seemed compassionate and human lol :)

Bill Gates is a democract. he is for higher taxes on the wealthy. so is Warren Buffet. So are many very wealthy people.

In all fairness georges if a company that makes $10 billion dollars a year in profit has to take $100 million out of their profit they won't even feel it and it goes towards the greater good of their employees who let's not forget, are also customers. if you take away someone's ability to buy things then it hurts those exact same companies.

we are creating a society of people who can only eat at fast food and shop at walmart. then when they are overweight and sick who pays the bill? medicaid aka tax payers.

how is that a good thing?
Contrarily to one person who sees me as an alienated and horrible right wing person (I should say the Devil advocate in person) and who doesn't know me at all, I will tell you one thing, I have always been respectful, honest and frank with everyone even those whom I disagreed with. Regarding the fortune 500 ceos , you should also add the fact that they manage the money of the companies as it was their own when it shouldn't be the case and they should be prosecuted when they screw up things. Remember Enron or Oldsmobile. If you are multimillionaire, you can pay higher taxes and of course give to charities and I entirely agree with that. The mentality of some ceos isn't like that some are formatted by their schools and some only see numbers and profitability.
Regarding food, cost of veggies and good meat is expensive too. I think that going to the market every week end and buying some veggies and preparing meals as you give the receipts could be a way to fight obesity.
 
I'll never order a meat lovers pizza again. Thanks for destroying one of life's guilty plearures. BTW have you ever made of of those milfy Big Sausage Pizza movies before? I figured since you are into the culinary arts and an Italian broad you'd be perfectly cast in one of those roles. You could be the character of Mia the amorous yet sexually frustrated Italian milf who was recently laid off from her job as a school cafeteria worker due to Republican budget cuts. The storyline revolves around you ordering a The Works from Papa John's one afternoon and when the pizza delivery boy arrives you immediately start bitching him out for using processed mozzarella instead of real mozzarella and that the sauce does not have enough garlic and basil in it. For his punishment for bringing a pie that is an insult to your palate you make him do the hibbity dibbity with you wearing a Ted Cruz Halloween mask where you call him Frank Burns and he has to say MAMA MIA MAMA MIA! Then you send him on his way with a 4 dollar tip and the latest book from Bill Maher.
 

Mariahxxx

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I never did those types of things. For one that was a playboy product and I dont associate with them since they bounced my paycheck in November 2007 and have yet to make good on it. Secondly that is just not something I wanted my name on.

someone has quite the imagination today lol

did you see my pizza boy pornstar flashback spoof video? in case You Missed it it's pretty funny. I thought of it spur of the moment so it's a little rough but you get the idea :)

 
Yes my imagination is quit vivid today. It must stem from that eight ball that I snorted last night. Where in the hell else could I come up with a scenario of republicans cutting the jobs of single working moms, M.A.S.H characters and Tea toddling Texas senators? Beats me.
 

georges

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I never did those types of things. For one that was a playboy product and I dont associate with them since they bounced my paycheck in November 2007 and have yet to make good on it. Secondly that is just not something I wanted my name on.

someone has quite the imagination today lol

did you see my pizza boy pornstar flashback spoof video? in case you missed it it's pretty funny. I thought of it spur of the moment so it's a little rough but you get the idea :)

funny vid :laugh: :D your blonde friend reminds me the character maxine valera from CSI Miam played by boti bliss
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3804093696/nm0088502?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_pbl_7
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2428361984/nm0088502?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_pbl_9
 
1, she doesn't have employees that she pays a substandard wage to
2 she has given out plenty of free memberships cuz she did for me its about a year ago
3 you're a tool, go away
 

Mariahxxx

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well clearly you didnt go to my website because it's $24.92 monthly. But I get your point.

And I actually offer a $10 membership http://mariahxxx.net/tour/signup.html for those who cannot afford the regular rate.

if my company made $500 million a year I wouldnt pay my people the lowest rate I could legally pay them. For one, they would hate me and their job and treat me and their job accordingly. Secondly, I would want people to like working for me so that they treat my customers with respect and do their jobs as expected. Third, I think that by me paying my employees more it would benefit me and my company in the long run because then my employees would be able to afford to be consumers or customers which puts money into the economy, benefiting all of us, me included.
 

Mariahxxx

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I find it incomprehensible that there are people who don't see the logic in this point of view. If the billion dollar corporations dont pay people enough to live, then it falls on all of us. I'm sure you're the first to bitch about taxes, well now that you know that half of the employees working for minimum wage and low paying jobs are taking your tax money, you are bitching about that. So the answer seems pretty clear. Make the corporations take a tiny pinch and pay them more so they don't make us pay.

if you are a true republican this will put you in a awkward spot. "Do I dare tell companies to pay people more? Or do I keep letting them make all the profit and I make up their difference and my tax money goes to their employees so they don't have to?"
 
Bottom line. Government does not have the right to dictate what private companies pay their employees. Business never pays for mandated minumum wage increases. They compensate by either cutting positions, hours or through price increases. So tired of you harping on this crap when you have very little overhead costs if any and no employees other than yourself. You said that you are your own webmaster so I assume you don't have to pay one. Companies are not started as a public service. They are started to sell a product or service and to turn a profit. Dictating what a company must pay someone ultimately raises the cost to the consumer. It is basic economics and YOU are the one that doesn't get it. Start a manufacturing company like I am invested in and you will see. naw fuck it. No you won't until the company goes belly up.
 

Mariahxxx

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you talk about me being a know-it-all / done-it-all but every topic that gets discussed you claim to be invested in it. from restaurants to real estate now to manufacturing.

and as far as "government doesn't have the right" when has that mattered? the government doesn't have the right to base laws on religion and they do. the government doesn't have the right to say if people in Alabama can own a vibrator but there are laws against it.

until 40 years ago government regulated business on nearly ever level. if they can regulate how much a company can charge for their product they can certainly regulate how much they pay their employees.

You say the government has no right, but I would argue that a minimum wage is EXACTLY what you say they have no right to do.

I have little overhead but I pay an accountant and a couple of attorneys and programmers.

the only reason it raises the cost to the consumer is because companies refuse to pay a cent more than the minimum they can get by with.

So ultimately you are ok with all of these people getting welfare and food stamps and WICK and SNAP and medicaid out of YOUR tax dollars?
 

Mariahxxx

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I hope the next time your simpleton ass goes to buy your meat and potatoes some $8 hour person who's pissed off at his boss wipes his runny dick in your food and adds a little gravy to your plate.

another perfect example of the greedy looking at the world like they'll live to be 109 but only have enough money to make it to 108 1/2. how many BILLIONS is enough?
 

Mariahxxx

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you talk about me being a know-it-all / done-it-all but every topic that gets discussed you claim to be invested in it. from restaurants to real estate now to manufacturing.

I've written several business plans over the years after writing one in 1993 for a business communications class at Angelina College and found market research quite enjoyable, but actually have dollars invested, ha, I wish. I don't have enough time or money to pursue more than a couple of interests.
 
anyone who believes that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet "made" their fortune on their own with no help needs to go back on do some homework and yes as I agree with Mariah as I have already stated and tried to explain, the minimum wage should be 20-22 dollars an hour if adjusted for present day inflation
 
you talk about me being a know-it-all / done-it-all but every topic that gets discussed you claim to be invested in it. from restaurants to real estate now to manufacturing.

and as far as "government doesn't have the right" when has that mattered? the government doesn't have the right to base laws on religion and they do. the government doesn't have the right to say if people in Alabama can own a vibrator but there are laws against it.

until 40 years ago government regulated business on nearly ever level. if they can regulate how much a company can charge for their product they can certainly regulate how much they pay their employees.

You say the government has no right, but I would argue that a minimum wage is EXACTLY what you say they have no right to do.

I have little overhead but I pay an accountant and a couple of attorneys and programmers.

the only reason it raises the cost to the consumer is because companies refuse to pay a cent more than the minimum they can get by with.

So ultimately you are ok with all of these people getting welfare and food stamps and WICK and SNAP and medicaid out of YOUR tax dollars?

I am well diversified too bad that you don't like it. I am a investor in a restaurant with a family member I have several real estate holdings and I am involved in manufacturing. There are many other ventures that I am involved with because business is my thaang. You'll also be happy to know that I am a partner in a private equity firm so yeah I have a lot of irons in the fire and my law practice is not the bulk of my income. The government does not regulate prices in general unless it is through regulatory agencies for very specific things such as utilities. They didn't hang the price tag on the new Stratocaster I purchased last week although you would love for them to. I find it interesting that you oppose unions for driving up costs . I am actually a pro union Republican because they are in the business of securing the best wage and working conditions for their members and do so through negotiations and leverage on behalf of employees. The gains they make go into the pockets of the employees as opposed to what you advocate which is essentially the government assuming the role of union boss but their gains are only to grow government and the only beneficiaries are big spending politicians because higher wages in their minds equal more tax dollars when in actuality it means less government revenues because all business has to do is cut their work force. I also find it interesting that you long for the days of heavy government regulation from years gone by while bitching about Repubs wanting to take us back to the dark ages of the 50's and 60's. You have no grasp of what it takes to run a real business and to make a payroll which I have been doing every week for the past 20 years. If anyone here is the simpleton it's you and you continue to reinforce that fact with each and every post that you make.
 
when it comes to price regulation, the major players are the private federal reserve in cooperation with the bank of England, along with other central banks that are under their watch, the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) also play a major role
 
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