Haiti fund...

I have given $100 US

Hopefully you all can follow
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I understand those that have been hit hard by the economic situation are hurting.
A lot of others are hurting too.

Please think of what you have and what you can afford.


~HB

Good work HB! 'ol Mega joins in the effort! I you have more than you need then give.:thumbsup:
 
I will donate $0. If we are going to aid people in need, then it should at least be our own citizens. Take care of our nation 1st, then worry about everyone else.

You can choose for a donation to go to your local Red Cross chapter. It's the last option on the page that comes up with this link.

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I feel like God blessed me with more than I need. And while I also make donations to American charities (I agree that a nation should take care of its own first), I have enough to spare that hopefully someone in Haiti can be benefited. There's a rumor floating around that I can't take it with me. So I'll do what I can while I'm here.
 
I don't think it makes you a punk to disagree. Respectfully, there's no guarantee on how your money will be spent. I'm sure that if our government can consistently mismanage funds, the Red Cross could certainly do the same. I would be wary of any organization that required background and credit checks for volunteers. And then there's this following 9/11:

In February 2002, The New Yorker magazine reported that American Red Cross representatives were visiting upscale apartment buildings in wealthy Manhattan neighborhoods and distributing donated money (up to three months' rent or mortgage payments) to New Yorkers who had been "displaced, traumatized, or merely inconvenienced" by the terrorist attacks, without any regard to whether the recipients were actually in financial need.

Yeah, people who thought they were donating to help victims ended up paying rent for wealthy people in upscale New York. My point is that throwing money at something isn't always the solution to the problem - it can be mismanaged. Again, I'm not trying to be a punk, but there are two sides to everything. :2 cents:
 
I agree...United Way does the same ****...I know because I was part of it a long time ago :bowdown:

I don't think it makes you a punk to disagree. Respectfully, there's no guarantee on how your money will be spent. I'm sure that if our government can consistently mismanage funds, the Red Cross could certainly do the same. I would be wary of any organization that required background and credit checks for volunteers. And then there's this following 9/11:

In February 2002, The New Yorker magazine reported that American Red Cross representatives were visiting upscale apartment buildings in wealthy Manhattan neighborhoods and distributing donated money (up to three months' rent or mortgage payments) to New Yorkers who had been "displaced, traumatized, or merely inconvenienced" by the terrorist attacks, without any regard to whether the recipients were actually in financial need.

Yeah, people who thought they were donating to help victims ended up paying rent for wealthy people in upscale New York. My point is that throwing money at something isn't always the solution to the problem - it can be mismanaged. Again, I'm not trying to be a punk, but there are two sides to everything. :2 cents:
 
I will donate $0. If we are going to aid people in need, then it should at least be our own citizens. Take care of our nation 1st, then worry about everyone else.




As cold as it sounds I have to agree. I mean I am all for everyone reaching out to help everyone but with things so bad here it doesnt make much sense. Plus look at every tragedy that has happened here what help did we get
 
People should just do what their conscience tells them to do.
 
I can give you my answer now if you'd like senator.
my offer is this: nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming license with i would appreciate if you'd put up personally.
man i really must be bored.
maybe thats why they call it a board.

seriously, what rey said.
:hatsoff: to heartbroker for trying to help.
:thefinger to heartbroker for saying if you dont donate youre selfish.
 
It's great to see humane members on this site giving a damn and sparing a dime or more to help human beings in Haiti going through a major crisis :,)
 
great that you're encouraging people to donate, HB. but, just as every other thing in this world, please investigate and verify the legitimacy of the organization you're donating to. sadly this world breeds so many fucked up assholes that a huge amount of donated money goes to something they never inteneded nor wanted to go to.

the red cross example above is very true and very applicable to this. sparky mentioned united way and she is spot on. there was a huge investigation into that and heads rolled but a lot was covered up and not ******. if you donate to the united way, you may as well go up to guy driving a porche or lexus and hand him a twenty dollar bill saying, hey here's twenty bucks towards your next big screen tv purchase, the overhead expenses for the united way are phenomonally horrific.

as far as calling someone a punk or selfish for not donating, in some cases that is very true and in some other cases its way off the mark. for instance at our local grocer they had a breast cancer donation thing going and would ask if you wanted to make a donation when cashing out. i told them no and the woman rolled her eyes. i asked her what she knew about the charitable outfit cos i never heard of them. she knew nothing. i told her my GF is a pro bono lawyer who donates her time to non-profit groups. i myself have voluntered for three major non-profit groups (UNICEF, Habitat for Humanity, and Red Cross) i give around 15% of my income to charities, i hand pick them and investigate each one. through all that one thing i've learned: you're a shmuck if you don't investigate the charity youre donating to.

i challenged her and said if she can gaurantee me that at least half of the dollar i dontate actually goes to the victims of breast cancer i would donate a dollar for every single person standing in a check out line in that store. she couldnt gaurantee me that. i got home, asked my gf about them when she got home and she immediately lit up. seems the group the cashier was pushing on me has avoided numerous tax filings and watchdog groups. i told the manager and they moved to a more legitimate charity group.

so, before you roll your eyes at someone realize this: they may have a very legitimate reason to not participate. your actions of condemning them actually feeds the fire of resistance rather than put out the fire. blanket statements should only be used when speaking of a piece of fabric that usually covers a person when they are cold.

UNICEF in my mind is the most reputable. Though they have high over head, a lot of that over head has to be used towards appeasing govt assholes who like to stand in the way of thier country receiving aid until they get their un-fair share.

Haiti was a broken govt before the earthquake, and trust me its broken after the quake as well. My sophomore year in college i voluntered with a group to help put utitilities in a village. i fucking *** you not, we had to fucking bribe the authorities to purchase supplies and necessities to do our work. fucking unreal. this was in haiti. a lot of people are contributing money to Yele right now through fund raisers, telethons, twitter, etc... if you're one of the people doing that, then congratulations, you just helped one of the VP's put a down payment on that beach house in Hawaii.

INVESTIGATE the group. say that about a million times till it sinks in.

I'm not saying dont every donate, quite the opposite, actually. I'm saying donate effectively. If Mr Smith donates 10 dollars to a group he has no clue about and Mr Jones donates 5 dollars to a group he has investigated, i can gaurantee you that Mr Jones 5 dollars has done more to thelp the hapless than Mr Smiths 10 dollars, yet we as society will applaud Mr Smith and frown on Mr Jones for being cheap.

Sorry to put a negative spin on things but i know that there are FreeOnes members who do want to donate and I hope and care that they do it correctly, and not frivolously just to get some warm fuzzies and move on. as for me and my GF, yes we are donating extra, directly to a specific section of a charitible group where we have a friend working. we feel confident that at least a portion of that donation will go towards Haiti. for those who have donated, can you say the same thing?

those who donated to the red cross after the tragic tsunami event 4 or 5 years ago, did you know that over a billion of those donations are still in limbo?

to those of you who do donate then great job, but dont wait for a calamity to happen. donate weekly, monthly, locally or globally. donate wisely, and think twice before thumping your chest. following in your footsteps is the response you should be looking for. not applause. not alienation. just a concerted effort to make the world a better place.

some people can read this post and say i'm an asshole and not very empathetic but i am the exact opposite and sincerely want to see a charitible action done with optimum effectiveness. the united way fiasco back in the late 80's actually contributed to a two year reduction in charitible offerings. so please do it correctly with just a little effort, your dollar goes further.


Damn, what a lengthy post. I either sound like Jesus or a shady Televangelist. :rofl: Anyway, there's maybe two or three people who will read this post in its entirety and to those two or three people i have to say....wow, you must be really bored ;)
 
I helped in a different wy.

First I took a photo of one of the suffering Haitinians off my TV.
Then I pasted that picture to the head of a voodoo doll.
I sacrificed a chicken and sprinkled its ***** on the doll after I had mixed the ***** with painkillers and anaesthetics.
I then took my scissors and carefully amputated the infected leg of the Haitinian I had protographed.
Finally I carefully applied a bandage to the leg stump.

Every little helps.
 
In the spirit of Pat Robertson, I donated to the Church Of Satan. Being that the money eventually ends up in Haiti anyway.
 
Sorry to put a negative spin on things but i know that there are FreeOnes members who do want to donate and I hope and care that they do it correctly, and not frivolously just to get some warm fuzzies and move on. as for me and my GF, yes we are donating extra, directly to a specific section of a charitible group where we have a friend working. we feel confident that at least a portion of that donation will go towards Haiti. for those who have donated, can you say the same thing?

I don't see your post as a negative spin at all. Stories have been running all morning, warning people to be on the lookout for scams. I think it's wise to peform due diligence when donating (investing, buying a girl an engagement ring or anything else that involves the wallet or heart). If you want your money to actually go to help people in need, you have to make at least reasonable efforts to make sure the organization has a decent track record of delivering results. I used to join a former company in donating to the United Way. I opted out because I didn't agree with some things about that organization. I know the Red Cross has had issues in the past, but it is my understanding that those issues have been addressed. Especially after Alex Zanardi was injured and almost ****** in a crash in Germany, I began donating to the St. Jude ********'s Fund, since that was a charity supported by Target Chip Ganassi Racing when Alex was there.

If I didn't have it or if I was in dire straits (unemployed, disabled, etc.), then that's one thing. But the way I see it FOR MYSELF, if I can afford a $3 grand set of wheels for my car, I can afford to do a little something for orphaned **** who have had a building collapse on them. But yeah, I want the people in need to get the money, not some administrator. But even if you have it to give, you're not obligated to do so. I don't think not helping is anything to brag about though.

George W. Bush and Bill Clinton were just on TV. They've set up a joint fund to assist the relief effort in Haiti. It's at Premium Link Upgrade
 
In the spirit of Pat Robertson, I donated to the Church Of Satan. Being that the money eventually ends up in Haiti anyway.

Is Pat still the pastor of the Church of Satan or did Jerry Falwell's *** get that gig? :)
 
I will donate $0. If we are going to aid people in need, then it should at least be our own citizens. Take care of our nation 1st, then worry about everyone else.

Why should we help our own first? Does some guy you don't know in cali deserve to live or be healthy more than some guy you don't know in haiti?

A human is a human, and suffering is suffering. Haiti's one of a few places on this planet right now where almost the entire population is in extreme and acute suffering and where aid will do the most good.
 
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