Glenn Beck: Obama is "a racist" who has "a deep seated hatred for white people...

[Jack Davenport]

No you cant....Its simple cause and effect. Black Panthers are a reactionary force to a problem that existed and still does. Nuff said.

You cant say that about Nazi's even though white supremist fucks will cry about jews. The imaginary ills these tits come up with is utter bullshit. The white man has ruled the fucking roost, In everything from legit to illegit some white guy is getting his cut. Just morons and losers that need to find a clique or somewhere to belong, Some way to bond with other guys they have fuck all in common with. Best way to do that is hate on someone else, Easiest target are "different" people.

I aint anti semitic before you throw some of my posts on the jews at me I just think they are hypocrites. Nor do I believe in the purity of the white race another ridiculous notion that somehow these fucks have the mordacity to quote or cite Darwin's research. Do any of you fucks even understand it? Variety is the spice of life.

Nice try. I said that all racist groups can include tidbits of truth in their speech. It is the glue that causes weak minded people to buy into their BS.

Ok, the Black Panthers are a reactionary group.What you are basically saying is that it is not racism if there is cause to be racist. You do not know my life,or my life experiences or even my race nor do I know yours. But I have witnessed violence in the name of "reactionaries" firsthand.

My uncle was a police officer who died in the line of duty during the Wilmington NC riots of which Ben Chavis and the Wilmington 10 became famous all over the world.

I know a little about the subject.

 

[316sherm]

Maybe he can start crying on the air.....nahhh....that would be ridiculous!

I saw that...and it was horrible! Glenn Beck is a pussy!

 

[Hot Mega]

Nice try. I said that all racist groups can include tidbits of truth in their speech. It is the glue that causes weak minded people to buy into their BS.

Exactly the shtick ployed by Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.

 

[JayJohn85]

I aint agreeing on violence....And yes they are too militant and some of them literally are trapped in there hate and vehemence hence why alot of moderates or other folks distanced themshelves.

As for your personal loss to you I am sorry for it. Your letting it cloud your judgement. Many many black guys got lynched in American history, And sorry to say but the cops did alot of shit on black guys. To tarnish a entire people trying to escape oppression because your uncle died in the line of duty is extreme, Would you have felt this way if some white guy had of shot him during a robbery or something? Or even the anti vietnam riots?

 

[JayJohn85]

You have got to be kidding me JayJohn! Not to dither too much off topic but Americans DID NOT invent the circumstance of religion and politics. In fact, it was our founders recognition of the Church's influence on governance from it's birth country which caused them to specifically separate it from our government in our Constitution.:2 cents:

Man dont get me started I could find some lovely youtube videos on current politics and crowd incitement I aint sure if its evangelist or whatever.....Who are the real flowery orators? lulz.

Good old reverend Ian Paisley learnt much in the states. Maybe you aryans boy know him.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Okay, so you're making the case. Make the case then.

What statements should have driven Obama away from Wright's church and when were they made and what was Obama's response upon learning about them?

Ready? Go!

-- September 2001: "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied."

-- September 2001: "We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye."

-- September 2001: "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost."

-- April 2003: "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America. No! No No! God damn America ... for killing innocent people. God damn America for threatening citizens as less than humans. God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme."

-- December 2007: "Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary would never know that."

-- December 2007: "Hillary ain't never been called a ******. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person."

-- Jan. 13, 2008: "Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."

-- "Fact number one: We've got more black men in prison than there are in college. ... Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run."

-- "We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. ... We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. ... We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means.


And ... And ... And! God! Has got! To be sick! Of this shit!"


You know as well as I do that Obama's reaction was that of "Did I hear a few controversial things? Yes.

That was pretty much it.

I feel the President is being disingenuous. But that is my opinion.

You don't title your book from a pastor's sermon title if you think this guy is a little nuts. Nor sit in his church for 20 years. But this was discussed in the campaign and I am frankly tired of discussing Rev. Wright.

The President weathered Hurricane Wright and became the President. So be it. But to totally dismiss Beck as being out of line with his comments when there are plenty of us who believe that Obama either overlooked Wright or secretly agrees with him, shows those of us that oppose the President's policies that he is is either:

Lacking in judgement
or
A part of him agrees with these things.


Which one I guess we will never know for sure.

 

[JayJohn85]

-- September 2001: "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied." Okay thats crackpot, I cite the tear gas on the windy day as the reason

-- September 2001: "We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye."This is true you where going to drop more! If they didnt surrender.

-- September 2001: "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost."Well you armed Israel to the teeth she could probably take on any modern army now except yours and that only due to size. And they pretty much run into gaza when they feel they gotta put some beatches down or flex their muscles.

-- April 2003: "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America. No! No No! God damn America ... for killing innocent people. God damn America for threatening citizens as less than humans. God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme."Crime is bad in america but hardly importing drugs as this problem has past the race and class barrier unless of course some nutter deems that acceptable losses

-- December 2007: "Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary would never know that."You'd have a good time being rich, white and powerful

-- December 2007: "Hillary ain't never been called a ******. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person."True getting called a bitch or something hardly compares

-- Jan. 13, 2008: "Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."I dont mind Bill he came and visited my town lulz

-- "Fact number one: We've got more black men in prison than there are in college. ... Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run."When farming was the primary industry, Cotton was the product of that time. Immigrants built America tis fact, Even the irish had to fight like fuck for anything.(literal and metaphorical)

-- "We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. ... We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. ... We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means.I guess everyone does mercenary work, SAS trained plenty of groups.

 

[Hot Mega]

-- September 2001: "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied."

-- September 2001: "We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye."

-- September 2001: "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost."

-- April 2003: "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America. No! No No! God damn America ... for killing innocent people. God damn America for threatening citizens as less than humans. God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme."

-- December 2007: "Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary would never know that."

-- December 2007: "Hillary ain't never been called a ******. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person."

-- Jan. 13, 2008: "Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."

-- "Fact number one: We've got more black men in prison than there are in college. ... Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run."

-- "We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. ... We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. ... We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means.


And ... And ... And! God! Has got! To be sick! Of this shit!"


You know as well as I do that Obama's reaction was that of "Did I hear a few controversial things? Yes.

That was pretty much it.

I feel the President is being disingenuous. But that is my opinion.

You don't title your book from a pastor's sermon title if you think this guy is a little nuts. Nor sit in his church for 20 years. But this was discussed in the campaign and I am frankly tired of discussing Rev. Wright.

The President weathered Hurricane Wright and became the President. So be it. But to totally dismiss Beck as being out of line with his comments when there are plenty of us who believe that Obama either overlooked Wright or secretly agrees with him, shows those of us that oppose the President's policies that he is is either:

Lacking in judgement
or
A part of him agrees with these things.


Which one I guess we will never know for sure.

Lovely. So the 20 year thing doesn't quite hold water based on your response. As the statements (taking them at face value) don't date back 20 years and many are contemporary to the last election.

Also, in the face of those statements being made known to Obama his response was to denounce them and eventually part ways with Wright over them.

So how is this a case supporting Beck's ignorant assertion? Ohhh, right. Obama is being "disingenuous".

Well, I for one am not a mind reader and can only take what Obama says and does for what they are.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I aint agreeing on violence....And yes they are too militant and some of them literally are trapped in there hate and vehemence hence why alot of moderates or other folks distanced themshelves.

As for your personal loss to you I am sorry for it. Your letting it cloud your judgement. Many many black guys got lynched in American history, And sorry to say but the cops did alot of shit on black guys. To tarnish a entire people trying to escape oppression because your uncle died in the line of duty is extreme, Would you have felt this way if some white guy had of shot him during a robbery or something? Or even the anti vietnam riots?

Where have I tarnished a whole race of people? I specifically spoke of racist groups. Not a race as a whole.


I live in the South. Believe me, I have seen racism from every possible angle that it can be displayed.

And my uncle's death has nothing to do with how I treat anyone. But I do hold very personal feelings about the type of groups like the one that took his life.

And that I will not apologize for. As for had it been a white person that killed him in a robbery, if that person had been someone acting on behalf of a group, I would feel the same way. But if he had been killed by a black man in a robbery, I would not hate black people because of what one person did..

 

[Jack Davenport]

Lovely. So the 20 year thing doesn't quite hold water based on your response. As the statements (taking them at face value) don't date back 20 years and many are contemporary to the last election.

Also, in the face of those statements being made known to Obama his response was to denounce them and eventually part ways with Wright over them.

So how is this a case supporting Beck's ignorant assertion? Ohhh, right. Obama is being "disingenuous".

Well, I for one am not a mind reader and can only take what Obama says and does for what they are.

Non sequitur

Obama called out Wright the first time he was made aware of Wright's statements.

Only after he was being hit in the polls did he totally renounce him and take him to the woodshed.

There is enough damning evidence in those statements that I posted. Some of which hold statistical accuracy. Which was my point.

As for how far back we need to go to find such statements I guess we can probably find things circa 1989 if we tried.

Probably the most confusing part of the whole Wright fiasco is why he seemed bent on embarrassing Obama and drawing attention to his statements.

Had he kept his mouth shut, Obama's membership in TUCOC would have never been an issue.

Wright's motives are perplexing actually.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

First mistake; Fox isn't mainstream.

But I presume Dr. Beck gathers Obama got this "deep seated hatred" from the white mother and grandparents who raised him.

I think the clown needs to stick with his goofy hand gesturing like the others in his trade and he'll be just fine.:2 cents:

Anyway...subject has been hashed here before I believe...

If Fox isn't mainstream, then CNN and MSNBC in addition to ABC, NBC, CBS, the NY Times, etc., are, literally, underground.

 

[Hot Mega]

Non sequitur

Obama called out Wright the first time he was made aware of Wright's statements.

Only after he was being hit in the polls did he totally renounce him and take him to the woodshed.

There is enough damning evidence in those statements that I posted. Some of which hold statistical accuracy. Which was my point.

As for how far back we need to go to find such statements I guess we can probably find things circa 1989 if we tried.

Probably the most confusing part of the whole Wright fiasco is why he seemed bent on embarrassing Obama and drawing attention to his statements.

Had he kept his mouth shut, Obama's membership in TUCOC would have never been an issue.

Wright's motives are perplexing actually.

Perplexing only to someone who believes Obama believes like Wright. How far back...Uh, far back enough to support your claim that Obama listened to it for 20 years...right??

You seem to have the chronology a bit confused. Obama denounced Wright's statements when we know for certain he knew of them. When Wright continued Obama parted ways with him altogether. A reasonable course of events by most reasonable standards.

If Fox isn't mainstream, then CNN and MSNBC in addition to ABC, NBC, CBS, the NY Times, etc., are, literally, underground.

:dunno:Fox isn't mainstream as an organization. They exist to promote a political agenda and simply wrap "news" and commentary around it.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Perplexing only to someone who believes Obama believes like Wright. How far back...Uh, far back enough to support your claim that Obama listened to it for 20 years...right??

You seem to have the chronology a bit confused. Obama denounced Wright's statements when we know for certain he knew of them. When Wright continued Obama parted ways with him altogether. A reasonable course of events by most reasonable standards.



:dunno:Fox isn't mainstream as an organization. They exist to promote a political agenda and simply wrap "news" and commentary around it.

Ok. Did he not attend for 20 years? Yes or no?

Ok. I will assume that Wright was a John Bircher for the first ten. Where does that leave us?

 

[Hot Mega]

Ok. Did he not attend for 20 years? Yes or no?

Ok. I will assume that Wright was a John Bircher for the first ten. Where does that leave us?

I have no clue. Being a member of a church for some time as I illustrated before doesn't mean you actually attend every service or even most of them.

I don't assume anything about Wright's erstwhile behavior over some period of time. I just asked you to cite evidence he has said bombastic, controversial statements consistent with the one's Obama parted ways with him over for the 20 years Obama was a member. So far you haven't.

You cite statements starting in 2001...a far cry from 20 years of it.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I have no clue. Being a member of a church for some time as I illustrated before doesn't mean you actually attend every service or even most of them.

I don't assume anything about Wright's erstwhile behavior over some period of time. I just asked you to cite evidence he has said bombastic, controversial statements consistent with the one's Obama parted ways with him over 20 years Obama was a member. So far you haven't.

You cite statements starting in 2001...a far cry from 20 years of it.

Again. Was he, or was he not on Obama's spiritual advisory committee?

There are 2 conclusions one can make.

1-Obama was completely comfortable with Wright after being "spiritually mentored" by him for 20 years. And in spite of the comments he heard.

2-The vetting process of Wright left a lot to be desired, as well as Obama's judgment.

 

[Hot Mega]

Again. Was he, or was he not on Obama's spiritual advisory committee?

There are 2 conclusions one can make.

1-Obama was completely comfortable with Wright after being "spiritually mentored" by him for 20 years. And in spite of the comments he heard.

2-The vetting process of Wright left a lot to be desired, as well as Obama's judgment.

Again, what comments for 20 years?? What spiritual advisory "committee"???

 

[~~whimsy~~]

Gee. Another left vs right thread in political semantics.

 

[Jack Davenport]

This spiritual advisory committee :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23634881/

And one other thing. The comments starting in 2001 were when Obama was a member of the church. But I will look for more associations and comments previous to that when I have the time to research it a little more. Upon your insistence of course.

I will eagerly await the revelation of a Republican politician attending a bake sale of a white supremacist for about an hour, and watch from the sidelines as you and the rest of your ilk try and tie him/her to a lifetime of cross burnings.

 

[Hot Mega]

This spiritual advisory committee :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23634881/

And one other thing. The comments starting in 2001 were when Obama was a member of the church. But I will look for more associations and comments previous to that when I have the time to research it a little more. Upon your insistence of course.

I will eagerly await the revelation of a Republican politician attending a bake sale of a white supremacist for about an hour, and watch from the sidelines as you and the rest of your ilk try and tie him/her to a lifetime of cross burnings.

Good get on the spiritual advisory "committee". Rep for backing up your claim with evidence.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I will say this.

Mega very rarely becomes riled to the point of name calling.. so I respect that about you very much. I need to work on that myself and I am trying, especially lately.

I think it is obvious we will never agree on much of anything.

But what the heck.