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FSC Calls Moratorium on Production Due to Performer Testing Positive for HIV

ApolloBalboa

Was King of the Board for a Day
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RichardNailder

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Sadly the economic impact of this will be mainly on the performers. I have over 6 months of unpublished content so it gives me time to focus on improving the sites layout and design but my models will all be struggling to pay rent.
 

Maggie Green

Official Checked Star Member
Well luckily I am not based in LA and my webcamming is my main thing. I shoot porn now and then and then I go back home..so lucky to make good money from home. Not that I don't work my ass off for it but I am fortunate not to be dependent on shoots for my income.
 

RichardNailder

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Well luckily I am not based in LA and my webcamming is my main thing. I shoot porn now and then and then I go back home..so lucky to make good money from home. Not that I don't work my ass off for it but I am fortunate not to be dependent on shoots for my income.

We're a long way from LA and FL - and 90% of our talent has never shot for anyone but us so we just don't bring in any unknown talent for a while. I hadn't planned on shooting this month anyway - working on a new CMS for the sites and pretty busy with that.
 
Ok here's what I don't get....

The oral rapid test takes 20 minutes. Why not just do that with each performer on the set right before a shoot? That probably sounds like a dumb question, but is it because it requires a trained professional to administer the test? Or something like that?
 

RichardNailder

Approved Content Owner
Ok here's what I don't get....

The oral rapid test takes 20 minutes. Why not just do that with each performer on the set right before a shoot? That probably sounds like a dumb question, but is it because it requires a trained professional to administer the test? Or something like that?

What you're not taking into consideration is the fact that typically all tests require a time period from time of infection to the time the test shows results, let's call this time to detection. Time to detection is not an incubation time, ie, infection to symptoms, and it's often shorter than the incubation time. Sadly the time from infection to infectious can be shorter than both the time to symptoms and the time to detection. Ends up the rapid test isn't the savior we had all hoped for.

Also, last time I spoke with our county infectious disease officer, he claimed the oral rapid test is notorious for returning false "reactive" results and is no where near as accurate as the tests a lab can preform. He may own stock in a labcorp so I can't vouch for his statement :p

As a note, we do as good a job managing risk in this industry as we did when I raced motorcycles and still my chances of being harmed in this industry is miniscule compared to racing motorcycles.




Bottom line is the only way to never have a motorcycle accident is to never ride a motorcycle.


Think about it......................
 

RichardNailder

Approved Content Owner
And relying on a test (or a condom) to manage all risks while removing the role the participants play in risk management is akin to relying on the helmet to prevent all head injuries while ignoring the power of the head inside that helmet to reduce risk.

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Just in - looks like we're doing a better-than-fair job of keeping the other "riders" reasonably safe ;)
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What you're not taking into consideration is the fact that typically all tests require a time period from time of infection to the time the test shows results, let's call this time to detection. Time to detection is not an incubation time, ie, infection to symptoms, and it's often shorter than the incubation time. Sadly the time from infection to infectious can be shorter than both the time to symptoms and the time to detection. Ends up the rapid test isn't the savior we had all hoped for.

Also, last time I spoke with our county infectious disease officer, he claimed the oral rapid test is notorious for returning false "reactive" results and is no where near as accurate as the tests a lab can preform. He may own stock in a labcorp so I can't vouch for his statement :p

As a note, we do as good a job managing risk in this industry as we did when I raced motorcycles and still my chances of being harmed in this industry is miniscule compared to racing motorcycles.




Bottom line is the only way to never have a motorcycle accident is to never ride a motorcycle.


Think about it......................

I get the incubation period and all of that.

That said, when AIM was doing all of this, that risk was still present, performers only had to show a clean test within the last month. If the OraQuick test could be used on set, that would surely be better than using a test that is up to a month old, right? And that same incubation period still applied to those tests as well. Hell, a performer could test clean on July 1, go have a bareback orgy with a bunch of Haitian trannies on July 2, and shoot on July 30.

There's no perfect way to do it but wouldn't the oral test be something that could be used? The oral test negative results are pretty accurate. It has some false positives, but the goal is to not miss any infections, and it's good at that.
 
You know, I should add that this actually kinda validates the current system. They found a performer who has HIV and she's been removed from performing.
 
Cameron Bay Comes forward.
The performer who tested positive is doing the right thing and has come forward. Her status is not yet confirmed but will be tomorrow when her confirmatory test at TTS (the original was at CET) comes back.

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RichardNailder

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Ok here's what I don't get....

The oral rapid test takes 20 minutes. Why not just do that with each performer on the set right before a shoot? That probably sounds like a dumb question, but is it because it requires a trained professional to administer the test? Or something like that?

Something like that would only be alright as something in addition to other adequate testing that would be done. My fear with something like that is it would make too many people complacent and be willing to go through with a scene or feel safe with only that. It would never be a substitute for adequate testing.

I would also question the legality of it considering their are privacy laws with ones medical information. I'm not familiar with it so I don't know, but then again, every business I have ever worked for has saw need to give me a drug test and I don't see the law having a problem with that or it being that different from it.
 

SabrinaDeep

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Something like that would only be alright as something in addition to other adequate testing that would be done. My fear with something like that is it would make too many people complacent and be willing to go through with a scene or feel safe with only that. It would never be a substitute for adequate testing.

I would also question the legality of it considering their are privacy laws with ones medical information. I'm not familiar with it so I don't know, but then again, every business I have ever worked for has saw need to give me a drug test and I don't see the law having a problem with that or it being that different from it.

Rapid test should be added to the current procedure. I'm sure MrHyde didn't mean to replace the current procedure with a rapid test, but rather to add a rapid test to the current procedure. It's not the solution, but it would be one step forward plus it would highly discourage forgery, bribery and superficiality. I'm a before the first hour supporter of rapid tests, but it ain't gonna happen in porn valley any soon, that's for sure. Not for as long as the industry is ruled by the current figures at least.
 
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