Formula 1 Boss Ecclstone on Hitler and the world

[Rey C.]

This guy is so full of shit...and I really hope this whole pathetic circus called Formula1 will cease to exist...the sooner the better.

Formula One, like rock & roll, will never die!!! :nanner:

Hey, hey... my, my!!!

German Grand Prix this weekend. 20 cars x 18,000 rpm's... turn it up!

 

[racerXf1]

Bernie is mad because his wife left him. He is old & demented. He once said that Danica Patrick should stay home & bake cookies.....Crazy to think he was once a f1 mechanic & now he is one of the top 100 richest people in UK..........

 

[Rey C.]

Yeah, he referred to Danica as a "kitchen appliance". OK, while that was pretty sexist, Danica Patrick is so far from being F1 material it isn't funny. I mean, she's won exactly one automobile race in her entire life... and that was an oval fuel mileage race in the IRL (not exactly the old CART series or even GP2). I saw her race in Atlantics. She wasn't bad, but she wasn't the next Senna either. Now she's 27+. She's raced in lots of series and just hasn't won anything of note. No one in F1 would even know who she was, if not for her gender.

To be fair, she's having a pretty good season in the IRL so far this year (Top 5 in points, I think). But Danica's actual accomplishments don't match all the hype that surrounds her, or is created by her dad and her PR people. He did do it in a nasty way, but Bernie was just bringing her back down to earth. She doesn't have the credentials of the worst F1 driver out there.

 

[D-rock]

So I take it as far as level of sanity goes Bernie Ecclstone is automotive racing's version of Al Davis, but with a lot more power in his competitive event.

 

[Rey C.]

Hmm, maybe more like boxing's Don King. Bernie's pretty flakey, but I don't think he pulls words out of his ass like Don King does though.

 

[Facetious]

Poor old Bernie. His pal Max gets caught getting his ass whipped by a bunch of hookers, then his wife leaves him, now F1 is on the verge of imploding on his watch.

Reading in review, I can't believe how loosely this multi billion $$$ F1 entity is held together, from Michael Shumacher making his debut F1 run for Team Jordan Grand Prix, then, after one race, Team Benetton (Renault) GP lures Michael away from Eddie. and it goes on :

It should also be noted that Eddie Jordan gave a young German called Michael Schumacher his Formula 1 debut in that, the team's debut season. After one race for the team, Schumacher was lured away to rivals Benetton.

In 1998 the team achieved its best ever result when drivers Damon Hill and Ralf Schumacher finished first and second at the Belgian Grand Prix.

Oh, do I remember this race ! Ralf was PISSED ! Eddie wouldn't let him pass Damon and Damon went on to win !
I'll never forget the scene on the podium of Damon, Alesi and Ralf simply beside himself.

After losing a Honda engine partnership deal to the BAR (later Honda and now Brawn GP) team in 2002 and numerous difficulties within the team (including a very public row and the sacking of Frentzen before his home GP), Jordan was forced to switch to expensive Cosworth engines. The added burden of this plus DHL withdrawing their sponsorship and Benson and Hedges toning down their sponsorship soon added up and the lack of funds made his team go from bad to worse in 2003. However despite this, Jordan delivered an improbable race win in Brazil 2003 courtesy of Giancarlo Fisichella, the first for Fisichella and the last Formula One victory for the Ford Motor Company and the Jordan team.

Jordan's steep fall from the glitzy heights of 3rd in the constructors in 1999 was now out of control. Despite new sponsorship from Trust computers and the addition of "Quick" Nick Heidfeld and a promising young rookie in Timo Glock for 2004, Jordan were in serious trouble. Jordan retained complete ownership of his team until 2004 and his rejections of rumoured approaches for buy outs (most notably from Peugeot and Honda) may have cost the team greater success.

His famous charisma had enabled him to "finesse" a number of sponsorship deals, without which Jordan Grand Prix would almost certainly have gone the way of Prost Grand Prix or Arrows. At the end it all proved too much for Eddie Jordan. If he did not sell he realised he would soon have to close his doors. A buyer was found in Midland Group financed by wealthy Canadian businessman Alex Schnaider and in early 2005, the team was sold to Midland Group.

Obstacles is all I can say, Obstacles !
If there isn't enough for the teams to worry about, add Bernie into the mix and well, just forget it.


FWIW : I was watching
this pass live as it happened from atop the corkscrew
(about 60 yards distance). Nice Memories ! :bowdown:

Zanardi just tore up everybody in CART but, for whatever reason, he couldn't produce as well as expected in F1.

 

[Rey C.]

FWIW : I was watching
this pass live as it happened from atop the corkscrew
(about 60 yards distance). Nice Memories ! :bowdown:

Zanardi just tore up everybody in CART but, for whatever reason, he couldn't produce as well as expected in F1.

You were at Laguna Seca that day?! Pretty damn cool, man! :thumbsup: I was watching on TV (never been to Seca) and I was out of my seat screaming like a crazy man. I'd followed Zanardi since his F1 days (the first go around) and while in CART, he was The Man. I've read a lot of speculation as to why he didn't do so well in his return to F1. Most of it focused on the vast differences between the Champ Car and the Grand Prix cars of that time. The CC was a near 1000 horsepower beast with steel brakes, and it needed to be man-handled. Whereas the F1 car was mor ehigh tech and required more finesse. I guess the same thing may be affecting Bourdais... though the Champ Car he drove wasn't as wild & beastly as the earlier CART machines.

Big props to you for seeing "The Pass" live though. I can't tell you how much I miss the CART days. If not for F1, I would totally give up on watching open wheel now. The IRL cars barely have the hp/weight ratio of a GP2 car. And IMO, that's always been a joke of a series. Some people like it, but it doesn't do anything for me. Hell, I'd watch CART races and almost get wood.

 

[Facetious]

Re: BSing about racing in general ~

You were at Laguna Seca that day?!

In fact :o

Big props to you for seeing "The Pass" live though.

Thank You ~ As you could have gathered, we saw it, yet we didn't see it, it just happened before our eyes. :1orglaugh
During the 2 hour drive home, all I could think of was getting to the VCR.

I've probably viewed that replay a thousand times and I'm still looking for his (Zanardi's) line. :bowdown:

Another amazing thing about "The Pass" was that Brian (Herta) was able to bring it home tidily in 2nd position.


FWIW -
Steady Eddie I. circa 2002

&


"Henry"

 

[Rey C.]

Re: BSing about racing in general ~

FWIW -
Steady Eddie I. circa 2002

&


"Henry"

Thanks. Yeah, I've been a Jagphile for many years. I wish Tata would take the team back to Le Mans, where it belongs. The F1 foray was sorta fun at first, but the end was ugly.

The only good news for Jag fans right now is Paul Gentilozzi's effort to get the marque up to speed in ALMS with the Jaguar XKR GT2 entry. Good luck to Paulie. And one thing about him, I think he'd fit in with most of us here. Love him or hate him, there's a guy that knows how to have a good time. :thumbsup:

BTW, definitely treasure those memories of Zanardi that day at Seca. The way things look right now, who knows if there'll even be a major American open wheel series in a couple of years. I just got a collection of CART helmets off Ebay a few days ago. Better days gone by...