Formula 1 2012

Personally I don't give much consideration to these rumors. It's not the first time that a Driver's contract is only up to the end of that year, usually the contracts are re-confirmed or changed at about Mid-Season, so for now rumors are nothing than talk, which means little to nothing



Ah those were some awesome cars at the time.

- Active Suspensions
- 1500 cc Turbo-charged V6 Honda RA166-E engine

And in the above Drivers:
- Satoru Nakajima
- And the best Driver of all time - Ayerton Senna - the last true Champion of the Formula1

Also, personally, I think from pure looks, those cars were way more beautiful to see and watch than those that race now.

PS - The above car, with Senna's Starting Number, was selectable on the Video Game Gran Turismo 3



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Senna rep. :hatsoff:

Yes, those were very beautiful cars. In fact, in that era, most open wheel formula cars had a look that I still prefer. The March 86 Indy Car was also a beauty. F1 has had some ugly cars before. But I'd say the cars this year (all of them except for the McLaren) take the cake for butt-ugly, more so than any other year.
 
First practice session is underway!
 
Results of P1:

1) Fernando Alonso - 1:24.430
2) Sebastian Vettel - 1:24.808
3) Kamui Kobayashi - 1:24.912
4) Jenson Button - 1:24.996
5) Valtteri Bottas - 1:25.120
6) Michael Schumacher - 1:25.187
7) Romain Grosjean - 1:25.217
8) Lewis Hamilton - 1:25.252
9) Kimi Raikkonen - 1:25.285
10) Nico Hulkenberg - 1:25.389

Valtteri Bottas ran in place of Bruno Senna.
Jules Bianchi ran in place of Paul DiResta (18, 1:26.630)
Alexander Rossi ran in place of Heikki Kovalainen (21, 1:28.448)
Dani Clos ran in place of Narain Karthikeyan (24, 1:31.618)
 
Results of P2:

1) Jenson Button - 1:23.399
2) Sebastian Vettel - 1:23.563
3) Nico Rosberg - 1:23.771
4) Lewis Hamilton - 1:23.909
5) Kimi Raikkonen - 1:23.918
6) Romain Grosjean - 1:23.964
7) Mark Webber - 1:24.065
8) Michael Schumacher - 1:24.080
9) Kamui Kobayashi - 1:24.214
10) Nico Hulkenberg - 1:24.365

Due to mechanical problems, Narain Karthikeyan did not set a time.
 
That must be '73. Peterson in the JPS Lotus, but I can't remember Jackie Stewart's team mate in the Tyrrell. I always loved the look of the Tyrrell.
I was just 9 years old when I watched the South African GP at Kylami - Stewart won and went on to win the championship that year.
 
That must be '73. Peterson in the JPS Lotus, but I can't remember Jackie Stewart's team mate in the Tyrrell. I always loved the look of the Tyrrell.
I was just 9 years old when I watched the South African GP at Kylami - Stewart won and went on to win the championship that year.

It is '73, and the No. 2 car is Ronnie, but its not at Kylami. As far as the drivers, I'm only looking for cars 2 and 4.
 
Results of P3:

1) Sebastian Vettel - 1:23.168
2) Pastor Maldonado - 1:23.336
3) Kamui Kobayashi - 1:23.350
4) Mark Webber - 1:23.578
5) Sergio Perez - 1:23.742
6) Fernando Alonso - 1:23.807
7) Jean-Eric Vergne - 1:23.833
8) Jenson Button - 1:23.909
9) Kimi Raikkonen - 1:23.936
10) Nico Rosberg - 1:24.070

Due to mechanical problems, Romain Grosjean did not set a time.
 
I know it's not Kylami - too many trees, but I'm pretty sure that Kylami was my 1st F1 GP, which is why I mentioned it. I cannot, for the life of me, think who was Jackie's team mate that year.
The track - is it Belgium - Zolder?

Back to this year and Spain...

A stunning lap from Hamilton sees him on pole with Pastor Maldonado 1/2 second behind him.
 
Results of qualifying:

1) Lewis Hamilton (McLaren)
2) Pastor Maldonado (Williams)
3) Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
4) Romain Grosjean (Lotus)
5) Kimi Raikkonen (Lotus)
6) Sergio Perez (Sauber)
7) Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)
8) Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)
9) Michael Schumacher (Mercedes)
10) Kamui Kobayashi (Sauber)
11) Jenson Button (McLaren)
12) Mark Webber (Red Bull)
13) Paul diResta (***** India)
14) Nico Hulkenberg (***** India)
15) Jean-Eric Vergne (Toro Rosso)
16) Daniel Ricciardo (Toro Rosso)
17) Felipe Massa (Ferrari)
18) Bruno Senna (Williams)
19) Vitaly Petrov (Caterham)
20) Heikki Kovalainen (Caterham)
21) Charles Pic (Marussia)
22) Timo Glock (Marussia)
23) Pedro De La Rosa (HRT)

Narain Karthikeyan did not make the 107% rule. It will be up to the stewards to decide whether he will take place in the race.
Vettel, Schumacher, and Kobayashi did not run in Q3.
 
Wow, Madonado did awesome, again. Comparing with Bruno Senna's 18th.
Judging by such performances with a Williams, if he had a Ferrari or a McLaren, he would be #1, by far, on every qualifyings and every races.

Good to see Grosjean well placed, ahead of his team mate Raikonnen.
Alonso 3rd, Massa 17th. Massa' really draggin' Ferrari down
 
I know it's not Kylami - too many trees, but I'm pretty sure that Kylami was my 1st F1 GP, which is why I mentioned it. I cannot, for the life of me, think who was Jackie's team mate that year.
The track - is it Belgium - Zolder?[/]

No, its not Zolder.
 
And another F1 Race ruined by the Race-Stewards before it even starts.

Guess at this point, I've got no interest in seeing the Barcellona-GP, and will find something better to do with my time during the afternoon.

I'm seriously considering following only the MotoGP...
 
And another F1 Race ruined by the Race-Stewards before it even starts.

Guess at this point, I've got no interest in seeing the Barcellona-GP, and will find something better to do with my time during the afternoon.

I'm seriously considering following only the MotoGP...

Unfortunately, rules are there fore a reason. They should have ensured that there was enough fuel in the car. Putting Lewis to the back of the grid was, however a bit extreme given the lap he put in - I would have thought that a 5 place grid penalty would have been more appropriate.
 
Sure, rules are there for a reason.

But in the F1, rules have hardly ever been enforced consistently and with the same weight. They always seem to go down harder on the Top-Teams, than on others. Right-or-wrong as that might be, it ruins the spectacle.

I watch a race to see the Top Drivers and Teams battle it out (unfortunately over the last decade and a half, there was little battling going on, this year - with tires that don't hold - things were promising to be a bit more interesting. Though I don't know if it really helps Pirelli for Marketing reasons - as I'd think twice before buying a tire that won't hold my street-car over at least one season (Summer/Winter), sure we know that Pirelli has the know-how to produce tires that could last the entire race, but they're not allowed to show it. Hey now that would be an interesting concept to further limit teams on development, and cut down costs: same capacity fuel tank, one set of tires per race (unless it starts/stops raining) and have them go through on one set and one fuel load for the entire race... (sure a couple of jobs in the pits might be lost, but so would mistakes which can cost a race).

Back to the penalty and what I said about the Stewards ruining the race before the start / ******* the suspence.
Thing is, as I said I watch the race to see certain teams compete, mainly: McLaren and Ferrari. Red Bull has moved itself into a nice position over the last few years. Mercedes is coming up (will be interesting to see how it goes once McLaren goes over to another Engine provider).

Personally I couldn't care less about:
- whatever Name the Renault Team currently has - be it Benetton; Renault; or now Lotus...
- ***** India; Marussia; Caterham (which just fueled the confusion when it was still Team Lotus); Sauber; HTC; and whoever else.
- Williams - though not as strong as in the 80s/90s seems to be coming back. Though I'll never understand why Bruno Senna went to drive for the Team that ****** his Uncle (no matter what the Investigations and Trials say, for me on that car in '94 - something was fishy)
- Toro Rosso - I actually liked that Team, but since the collaboration with the main Red Bull Team has been forbidden by the "rules", they're an agony to watch as well - just like when it was still Minardi.

If in the past, someone from the last position (with a Top-Car), could actually hope to plough through the field, and win the race. Today, with those tires, I think it would be a lucky strike for Lewis if he makes it into the points. Therefor, rules or not, for the spectator - especially those paying at the Track, or on Sky TV, they've ****** the race.




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Actually, it turned out to be quite a race, especially as it presented the fifth winner of the season in five races with Maldonado in the Williams taking the chequered flag. Lewis did a great job coming through to get some points in 8th place in front of team mate Jenson. Kimi, too, had a good race getting 3rd place. It was all about tyres and who managed them best in the end, and given 2 more laps, I think Kimi may well have made 2nd.

A great 70th birthday present for Sir Frank.
 
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