Former Reagan Administration Official Wants Pot Legal

http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/02/cz_qh_0602pot.html

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Milton Friedman: Legalize It!
Quentin Hardy, 06.02.05, 12:01 AM ET

SAN FRANCISCO, CA - A founding father of the Reagan Revolution has put his John Hancock on a pro-pot report.

Milton Friedman leads a list of more than 500 economists from around the U.S. who today will publicly endorse a Harvard University economist's report on the costs of marijuana prohibition and the potential revenue gains from the U.S. government instead legalizing it and taxing its sale. Ending prohibition enforcement would save $7.7 billion in combined state and federal spending, the report says, while taxation would yield up to $6.2 billion a year.

The report, "The Budgetary Implications of Marijuana Prohibition," (available at www.prohibitioncosts.org) was written by Jeffrey A. Miron, a professor at Harvard , and largely paid for by the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP), a Washington, D.C., group advocating the review and liberalization of marijuana laws.

At times the report uses some debatable assumptions: For instance, Miron assumes a single figure for every type of arrest, for example, but the average pot bust is likely cheaper than bringing in a murder or kidnapping suspect. Friedman and other economists, however, say the overall work is some of the best yet done on the costs of the war on marijuana.

At 92, Friedman is revered as one of the great champions of free-market capitalism during the years of U.S. rivalry with Communism. He is also passionate about the need to legalize marijuana, among other drugs, for both financial and moral reasons.

"There is no logical basis for the prohibition of marijuana," the economist says, "$7.7 billion is a lot of money, but that is one of the lesser evils. Our failure to successfully enforce these laws is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in Colombia. I haven't even included the harm to young people. It's absolutely disgraceful to think of picking up a 22-year-old for smoking pot. More disgraceful is the denial of marijuana for medical purposes."

Securing the signatures of Friedman, along with economists from Cornell, Stanford and Yale universities, among others, is a coup for the MPP, a group largely interested in widening and publicizing debate over the usefulness of laws against pot.

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If the laws change, large beneficiaries might include large agricultural groups like Archer Daniels Midland (nyse: ADM - news - people ) and ConAgra Foods (nyse: CAG - news - people ) as potential growers or distributors and liquor businesses like Constellation Brands (nyse: STZ - news - people ) and Allied Domecq (nyse: AED - news - people ), which understand the distribution of intoxicants. Surprisingly, Home Depot (nyse: HD - news - people ) and other home gardening centers would not particularly benefit, according to the report, which projects that few people would grow their own marijuana, the same way few people distill whiskey at home. Canada's large-scale domestic marijuana growing industry (see "Inside Dope") suggests otherwise, however.

The report will likely not sway all minds. The White House Office of Drug Control Policy recently published an analysis of marijuana incarceration that states that "most people in prison for marijuana are violent criminals, repeat offenders, traffickers or all of the above." The office declined to comment on the marijuana economics study, however, without first analyzing the study's methodology.

Friedman's advocacy on the issue is limited--the nonagenarian prefers to write these days on the need for school choice, calling U.S. literacy levels "absolutely criminal...only sustained because of the power of the teachers' unions." Yet his thinking on legalizing drugs extends well past any MPP debate or the kind of liberalization favored by most advocates.

"I've long been in favor of legalizing all drugs," he says, but not because of the standard libertarian arguments for unrestricted personal freedom. "Look at the factual consequences: The harm done and the corruption created by these laws...the costs are one of the lesser evils."

Not that a man of his years expects reason to triumph. Any added revenues from taxing legal marijuana would almost certainly be more than spent, by this or any other Congress.

"Deficits are the only thing that keeps this Congress from spending more" says Friedman. "Republicans are no different from Democrats. Spending is the easiest way to buy votes." A sober assessment indeed.
 
Me too....not because I'm interested in smoking it but because it's illegality is a joke.

Scofflaws openly flout the law on it, medicinal marijuana dispensaries make it all but legal and the cops don't even take it serious much anymore.

I say wipe this useless law off the books and stop getting in the way of people who are simply doing what they see as something which enhances their lifestyle.
 

jasonk282

Banned
Imagine the revemue that can be brough in by just making it legal and taxing it.
 
No more than cigarettes. It is high in price because it is illegal and comes with a risk. If it is taxed and slapped with pricing, it would be a couple dollars more than cigarettes, probably.

Not to mention it would most likely be taxed, cost raised, every year or other year. It would open up a can of worms that would last years.

I know around here allowed to have it, just not allowed to have it in small baggies looking like you are distributing. If you have one bag with a little bit in it it is legal. It is all crazy when it comes to laws already concerning that crap.

People smoke it, and really aren't hassled much over it, it seems. I watch cops walk or drive by bus stops around here where a lot are smoking weed and the smell is very clear and present.

It is the same as cigarettes and alcohol, just slowly tearing away at your health and long term longevity.

And who is to say once weed becomes legal, the next argument won't be cocaine? Then crystal meth. Then crack. Then every other drug under the sun.
 

Wainkerr99

Closed Account
If people want to destroy their health and pass out, why not make $14 billion off of them, especially considering the type of individuals these youngsters encounter while in prison, or the long term effects with regard to them trying to find employment form hypocritical prospective employers who either use or have use the stuff in the past?
 
It will make them so stoned they do not realize what the government is doing to screw them over even more! :D
 
And who is to say once weed becomes legal, the next argument won't be cocaine? Then crystal meth. Then crack. Then every other drug under the sun.

What's the problem there?

"whimsy" assuming you don't do coke, crystal meth or crack....if "they" legalized it tomorrow are you any more inclined to do/try it?

Further, it's not as if statutes against their possession and use are stopping those who want it anyway. Now that's not the best argument for legalization admittedly but why on earth are we making criminals out of people who are engaging in activity that isn't inherently detrimental to others and ONLY directly affects them??
 

Ace Bandage

The one and only.
Yes, I hope that they do legalize it one day. That way potheads never have anything to talk about ever again.
 
What's the problem there?

"whimsy" assuming you don't do coke, crystal meth or crack....if "they" legalized it tomorrow are you any more inclined to do/try it?

Further, it's not as if statutes against their possession and use are stopping those who want it anyway. Now that's not the best argument for legalization admittedly but why on earth are we making criminals out of people who are engaging in activity that isn't inherently detrimental to others and ONLY directly affects them??

No I was saying once they legalize weed, then who is to say the argument will not shift to legalize cocaine, crystal meth and all the other drugs out there.

They will be happy for a while, but then the coke heads will come out and say if the pot heads get to have legalize drugs, why can't we? That will go on for years. Then the meth addicts will come out and want it to be legalized.

I didn't say anything about people wanting to do it more in what you quoted. Or if someone doesn't do it they will automatically start because it is being sold in gas stations now rather than outside the gas station. :tongue:
 

jasonk282

Banned
No I was saying once they legalize weed, then who is to say the argument will not shift to legalize cocaine, crystal meth and all the other drugs out there.

They will be happy for a while, but then the coke heads will come out and say if the pot heads get to have legalize drugs, why can't we? That will go on for years. Then the meth addicts will come out and want it to be legalized.

I didn't say anything about people wanting to do it more in what you quoted. Or if someone doesn't do it they will automatically start because it is being sold in gas stations now rather than outside the gas station. :tongue:

I would say cause you can't OD on Pot. Where as Coke, which is used to make Crack, Meth, Herion etc.... can kill you.

Weed will just make you hungry.

Weed is not a gateway drug, it's not a drug that you can OD on or kill you the first time you use it. Actually it's pretty harmless.
 

jasonk282

Banned
Huh?
WTF :dunno:

To make heroin?
:1orglaugh

No where as Coke, which is used to make crack. Heroin and Meth. Stupid I know heroin and meth are not fromn Coke.

Better?

It's called an Apposition
 
I'm all for legalization of weed. The other "harder" drugs are a little more dicey... let's just decriminalize Mary Jo first, tax it, and pay off the fuckin debt!
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
What's the problem there?

"whimsy" assuming you don't do coke, crystal meth or crack....if "they" legalized it tomorrow are you any more inclined to do/try it?

Further, it's not as if statutes against their possession and use are stopping those who want it anyway. Now that's not the best argument for legalization admittedly but why on earth are we making criminals out of people who are engaging in activity that isn't inherently detrimental to others and ONLY directly affects them??

I agree 100% with this argument. The drug laws violate a much older and unbreakable law....supply and demand. All drugs should be made legal, strictly regulated and heavily taxed. Imagine how much revenue is lost every year by financing the ridiculous "war on drugs" in addition to potential taxes? Literally billions of dollars. Idiotic.

I feel the same way about prostitution and any type of gambling. Legalize all of them.
 
No I was saying once they legalize weed, then who is to say the argument will not shift to legalize cocaine, crystal meth and all the other drugs out there.
The argument for that already exists and is being made.
They will be happy for a while, but then the coke heads will come out and say if the pot heads get to have legalize drugs, why can't we? That will go on for years. Then the meth addicts will come out and want it to be legalized.
Well I can't attest to it but pot smokers and coke users may not be one and the same. To the extent some are, I doubt they'd be arguing for one to be legal without the other. Seems a little nonsensical IMO.
I didn't say anything about people wanting to do it more in what you quoted. Or if someone doesn't do it they will automatically start because it is being sold in gas stations now rather than outside the gas station. :tongue:

Didn't say you did....I merely asked a hypothetical question to demonstrated the reality as opposed to a myth perception some may have.
 
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