Favorite Dictator

[Red Spyder]

I would go with Vlad the Impaler. He's more like an anti-hero kind of dictator.

 

[JayJohn85]

Actually Stalin racked up more kills than Hitler. Its only because Russians have a love/hate relationship with him, The west never got to kill him or cause his removal that we perceive Hitler as the big bad. Also his crimes where against mostly his own people and due to being a commie and enemy of the west he doesnt get much coverage in history class. Also he didnt try to annihilate a entire minority of people but rather isolated cases within many class divides, ethnic groups etc. All due to his incredible paranoia.

But I picked Napolean because quite simply he is the greatest military general ever.

 

[habo9]

Actually Stalin racked up more kills than Hitler. Its only because Russians have a love/hate relationship with him, The west never got to kill him or cause his removal that we perceive Hitler as the big bad. Also his crimes where against mostly his own people and due to being a commie and enemy of the west he doesnt get much coverage in history class. Also he didnt try to annihilate a entire minority of people but rather isolated cases within many class divides, ethnic groups etc. All due to his incredible paranoia.

But I picked Napolean because quite simply he is the greatest military general ever.

No way , he got beat all the time , ended up running and hiding , it has to be Ghengis Khan for military

 

[gunslingingbird]

It was an interesting social experiment, wasn't it? Everyone is equal in the eyes on Ankgar, that is unless you where educated, lived in urban areas, spoke a different language besides Khmer, or even wore glasses. A truly progessive society. I do have one question: Why wasn't Pol Pot strung up and gutted? I mean it's the least that could have been done to him for his fine contribution to the world.

That's because his minions euthanized him at his request the day before justice was to be served. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_pot

No way , he got beat all the time , ended up running and hiding , it has to be Ghengis Khan for military

Attila the Hun, anyone? :dunno:

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Actually Stalin racked up more kills than Hitler. Its only because Russians have a love/hate relationship with him, The west never got to kill him or cause his removal that we perceive Hitler as the big bad. Also his crimes where against mostly his own people and due to being a commie and enemy of the west he doesnt get much coverage in history class. Also he didnt try to annihilate a entire minority of people but rather isolated cases within many class divides, ethnic groups etc. All due to his incredible paranoia.

But I picked Napolean because quite simply he is the greatest military general ever.

Also, you forgot the fact that Stalin pretty much won World War II. That probably has something to do with it...

And the greatest general of all time was Subutai. Course, he followed Ghengis Khan, but he did it while pretty much killing everything in sight.

 

[Will E Worm]

Wasn't he a great Christian leader fighting off the Muslim hoards?

I would go with Vlad the Impaler. He's more like an anti-hero kind of dictator.

That's what was great about him. He fought Muslims. :hatsoff:

 

[JayJohn85]

Yadda yadda....England is geographically lucky its a island....Napolean busted his nuts in Russia just as Hitler would do later nuff said.

PS> Genghis Khan conquering most of China and Russia which is "half of the world" in this time period doesnt impress me, Dont get me wrong woefully arrogant of when this took place but I reckon if it was ancient greece time, The greeks probably would have handed him his ass......If later then the romans would have.

 

[habo9]

Yadda yadda....England is geographically lucky its a island....Napolean busted his nuts in Russia just as Hitler would do later nuff said.

PS> Genghis Khan conquering most of China and Russia which is "half of the world" in this time period doesnt impress me, Dont get me wrong woefully arrogant of when this took place but I reckon if it was ancient greece time, The greeks probably would have handed him his ass......If later then the romans would have.

Well if you can conquer half the world on a horse , I would say that was some going & the Romans couldnt even conquer Scotland in there prime so they werent that great , thats why they built a wall to keep the Scots out & as for the Geeks they never wrote about there failures a bit like the Egyptians , so you only hear one side of the story & thats is how folklore and legends are built...................on myth

 

[JayJohn85]

It was the guerilla aspect the romans couldnt handle and also the hard as nails highlanders who hung up around the mountains......Egypt was also powerful you just really cant compare. Old Gengis fought other clans and shit who fought the exact same way nearly all on horse back......Thing is ancient greece and romans had what ya call strategy and formations.....They would have specialist legionnaire squadrons as well as their own cavalry that could break a cavalry charge.....Pikes man.

Anyway I am digressing......NAPOLEAN FOR THE WIN(FTW)

PS> Yea I suppose you can credit Gengis on probably being the first blitzer......A tactic Hitler put to good use later only with Pantzer tanks!

 

[habo9]

It was the guerilla aspect the romans couldnt handle and also the hard as nails highlanders who hung up around the mountains......Egypt was also powerful you just really cant compare. Old Gengis fought other clans and shit who fought the exact same way nearly all on horse back......Thing is ancient greece and romans has what ya call strategy and formations.....They would have specialist legionnaire squadrons as well as their own cavalry that could break a cavalry charge.....Pikes man.

Anyway I am digressing......NAPOLEAN FOR THE WIN(FTW)

BTW you dont get highlanders in Dumfries or the Borders and thats were the wall runs along...


Genghis Khan had strategy , formation , tactics and he had generals , he wasnt some rag tag idiot that just barged his way through life as some historians would have you believe

He controlled armys of thousands , he actually asked people if they wanted to be ruled with him for a price if they said no he would take it , but generally the people accepted and were left to there own devices as long as they paid him they were cool , he didnt die in or lose a battle he died of a nosebleed

He also took on the Chinese and won , who were pretty good outfits , two massive Empires at the time and overloards of Mongolia , also the Bulgars , Georgia

The Empire ended up streching from Persia , Eastern Europe , Russia , all of China to the Sea of Japan , much more than the Greeks , Romans and Napoleon put together , now if that isnt the greatest leaders of all time then pardon me for farting lol

He also realized the importence of trade links , for his Empire to work from Europe to Africa to Asia

 

[JayJohn85]

You are excused.

I like Napolean better! lmfao

 

[drf]

That's because his minions euthanized him at his request the day before justice was to be served. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_pot
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I forgot about that! Makes sense though bullies (dictators) are usually cowards. Well if the is a hell he's roasting like a pig on a spit.

 

[Wickedclown]

That's what was great about him. He fought Muslims. :hatsoff:

Yeah, and then he got dumped and imprisoned by the catholic church just for doing what they told him to do. VLAD, VLAD, VLAD!!!

 

[sporty_carr]

And what about François "Papa Doc" Duvalier, Hugo Chavez, Francisco Franco, Muammar al-Gaddafi and Mobutu Sese Seko?

Where is Idi Amin??? :dunno:

I forgot about some of these guys. I would facepalm myself if we had smilies by now.

Is there anyone who wants to me? I'm too lazy to look one up right now.

 

[marquis2]

Well if you can conquer half the world on a horse , I would say that was some going & the Romans couldnt even conquer Scotland in there prime so they werent that great , thats why they built a wall to keep the Scots out & as for the Geeks they never wrote about there failures a bit like the Egyptians , so you only hear one side of the story & thats is how folklore and legends are built...................on myth

The Romans never had any wish or intention to conquer Scotland.They came to Britain for two reasons-they believed it had great wealth and it was a source of problems as opponents to Rome used it as a safe haven.They were protecting a flank.By the time Britannia was pacified and settled there was a political decision made not to extend the Empire.Hadrian's wall was never intended to keep the Scots out-how could it?-it was a demonstration of power.

As for the greatest general of all time, how about Alexander the Great? Or even the Duke of Marlborough who never lost a battle?

 

[SRF]

Yeah, and then he got dumped and imprisoned by the catholic church just for doing what they told him to do. VLAD, VLAD, VLAD!!!

Actually, Vlad was Eastern Orthodox when he fought the Turks, so he didn't give a damn about Rome/s orders at the time. After he was overthrown, he converted to Catholicism in the hopes of getting the Church's support in regaining his throne. He killed too many Catholics (mainly German and Hungarian) when in power, though, and the Hungarians were not about to let him out, Catholic or no.

 

[habo9]

The Romans never had any wish or intention to conquer Scotland.They came to Britain for two reasons-they believed it had great wealth and it was a source of problems as opponents to Rome used it as a safe haven.They were protecting a flank.By the time Britannia was pacified and settled there was a political decision made not to extend the Empire.Hadrian's wall was never intended to keep the Scots out-how could it?-it was a demonstration of power.

As for the greatest general of all time, how about Alexander the Great? Or even the Duke of Marlborough who never lost a battle?

Bollocks , Hadrians wall was built to keep out Scots , its common knowledge , they tried to conquer it & couldnt , so they built the wall to keep the Scots out , so they couldnt get into Roman England !!!!

This is learned in primary school

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.19358

 

[JayJohn85]

^Never anger people who refer to headbutts as kisses.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I think Mao Zedong murdered the most of his own people. Idi Amin is a favorite. Also gotta go with Pol Pot. Also gotta give honorable mention to Mugabe - the most incompetent a-hole currently in Africa. Zedong is the most ruthless IMO however.

 

[Lonilover]

Napoleon if i have to choose, he conquered a lot !