Europeans, do you have extended family in the States?

As far as I'm aware of no Europeans care much about whether they have family in the US or not. In Ireland I actually would say it's the other way round: most don't really enjoy the millions of Americans coming to Ireland each year claiming to have some sort of Irish heritage. Usually with idea all people here sound Darby O'Gill, sip whisky around a turf fire all day and dance jigs all day.
I have a lot of family in almost every European country and 2 aunts in South Africa (and a lot of offspring) and 3 in Australia (again a lot of offspring). Rarely speak to any of them though.
 
My comment wasn't really anti-american. I can understand that, as a relatively young country that to be honest doesn't have the cultural heritage of Europe, its inhabitants will hark back to their ancestors to establish some kind of historic identity. I just think all this "I'm a 3rd German, an 8th Scottish" etc is nonsense & really clutching at straws for some sense of familial history. . .

Clutching at straws indeed. But no option here. That was my point.

And sorry, I didn't mean to imply that your comment was anti-American.
 
That's a purely American way of thinking. No European would ever say that he or she is 1/4 this, 1/2 that, 1/16 something else, etc.

You are what your passport says you are. Since I have two nationalities & two passports (the Dutch & Belgian passports, to be more precise), I am Dutch & Belgian. I don't care if some of my ancestors came from Germany or France & very few other people from Europe do, unless we're talking about the history of our family (& not about ourselves).

Your passport probably says you're an American, so you are an American, just like those dark skinned neighbors of yours.
Like you my passports are a Belgian and a Dutch one and I might even be entitled to a Hungarian one. I'm not 1/4 anything. I'm fully Belgian.
 
Actually, I do think this is a NORTH American thing. Most Canadians I know Identify themselves ethnically by where their parents, grand parents, or even great grandparents came from (in addition to saying they are Canadian). This used to be more true in the U.S. as well. People want an ethnic identity, and there is quite a lack of specific things to ethnically identify Americans.

That's not a criticism, but how can one nation that is so vast have singularly identifying things for the cultural ethnicity. You can't expect a black stay at home mother of 5 from Alabama to culturally identify with a single white male professional from New York to culturally identify with each other.

While I understand that every country deals with this sort of thing, I don't believe it is on the same scale as it is in the U.S.. This is a vast nation with cultural differences that are enormous. Additionally, most people here in the U.S. can point to somewhere else in the world that is significant in some way to their family, and so, to identify oneself as "Irish" even though it is generations ago is relevant in the American cultural scene.

I look at the success of such movies as, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," as related to this. So many people in the U.S. are craving a specific culture they can call their own, when one is portrayed in a movie (as it was in My Big Fat Greek Wedding), people jump all over it. People here crave culture, as there is a shortage of it here.

So don't poop on Americans for digging up their "culture" from generations ago. It is a North American phenomenon, and it's hard to understand and explain.

As mrtrebus said, it maybe because your roots only go back a few centuries as you were effectively colonists on other peoples or uninhabited land. Naturally you will look to your European ancesters for your cultural roots but I think America is old enough now to be a culture of its own and forgive me for saying this but I think very few Europeans will feel in any way related or affiliated to any Americans that may share the same ethnicity, when you all lived to gether in one country you were inseperable but centuries of living apart will leave you unrecognisable to one another. :glugglug:
 
As mrtrebus said, it maybe because your roots only go back a few centuries as you were effectively colonists on other peoples or uninhabited land. Naturally you will look to your European ancesters for your cultural roots but I think America is old enough now to be a culture of its own and forgive me for saying this but I think very few Europeans will feel in any way related or affiliated to any Americans that may share the same ethnicity, when you all lived to gether in one country you were inseperable but centuries of living apart will leave you unrecognisable to one another. :glugglug:

Hey, I'm not saying it's correct, nor it is something I do. I'm not an American citizen. I just happen to live in America at the moment. I was trying to offer a half-baked explanation.

And I certainly made no comment about how Europeans should feel about this. Europeans can all go fuck themselves with all their brilliant culture. And with a stick. And with cheese that contains cloves.
 

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I think the original question has been answered. And that answer is: No, and even if I did I wouldn't admit it. And if some dopey American claims to be related to me I will deny it until my dying breath.

I think that's the overall consensus.
 
What was the original question?!?
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Well, we like to look back to the Motherland and take great pride in waving our indigenous flags in America, so I was wondering if you have any family here and are you in contact with them or are they too many generations removed?

I have some third cousins in northern and eastern Europe. Don't talk to them at all, although if I ever make it that way I will make it a goal to look them up.

To paraphrase, just in case you're dense:
Do you Europeans have relatives in the United States?
 
To paraphrase, just in case you're dense:
Do you Europeans have relatives in the United States?

Is was about asking whether Europeans had relatives in the US until Supadafly started talking about how German he was and suddenly it all snowballed into ethnicity. Typical Germans causing trouble no matter which country they are in, that's a cultural trait that seems to have withstood the passage of time :ban:
 
But how many actual Irish girls act like she does? She can say she is Irish but she is American in every way she acts (I mean Hollywood diva and not the rest of the US). Look at Gabriele Heinze of Argentina, he may be of German descent but he cheats and moans and dives around like the rest of the Argentine players, having been born and raised in Argentina this is the culture he has learnt and adopted, he could not go to Germany now and fit in. New immigrants need time to integrate and assimilate and this should be done by 2nd or 3rd generation. America should be a culture of it's own (it already is) and the American people should place that before any historical ancestral ties. Europe is constantly changing and what you think Europe and Europeans are about is probably very far from the truth, you may find some immigrants that came from asia or africa decades ago to Europe may know more about European culture than you as they are actually living in it in real time. It's great you appreciate your ancestry but concentrate on making America a better place, that is where your future lies and maybe one day those Mexicans and El Salvadorans will be waving American flags too. :glugglug:

Whatever. America has already made it's choice in many cases. The balkanization in the country in some places is phenominal. Who am I to critique people if they want to be amongst themselves? In certain towns in my state there are overwhelming Scandinavian populations. I'm talking like upper ninety percentile Scandinavian. They want it that way. In little Mexico over downtown, it's all Mexicans. Americans have made their choice. Of course there are places very diverse, such as downtown, but I submit that these places are exceptions, not the rule.

Yes having an interest & pride in your ancestors is fine. But I don't understand how anyone can say Lindsay Lohan is an Irish girl? Yes she has Irish biological heritage but she has about as much in common with a born & bred Irish girl as a penguin. It seems to be an inherently American think.

Oh, I get it. So a black person (origins in Africa) born in Ireland today has more claim to that than Lindsay? You're a laugh, you really are.

Actually, I do think this is a NORTH American thing. Most Canadians I know Identify themselves ethnically by where their parents, grand parents, or even great grandparents came from (in addition to saying they are Canadian). This used to be more true in the U.S. as well. People want an ethnic identity, and there is quite a lack of specific things to ethnically identify Americans.

That's not a criticism, but how can one nation that is so vast have singularly identifying things for the cultural ethnicity. You can't expect a black stay at home mother of 5 from Alabama to culturally identify with a single white male professional from New York to culturally identify with each other.

While I understand that every country deals with this sort of thing, I don't believe it is on the same scale as it is in the U.S.. This is a vast nation with cultural differences that are enormous. Additionally, most people here in the U.S. can point to somewhere else in the world that is significant in some way to their family, and so, to identify oneself as "Irish" even though it is generations ago is relevant in the American cultural scene.

I look at the success of such movies as, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," as related to this. So many people in the U.S. are craving a specific culture they can call their own, when one is portrayed in a movie (as it was in My Big Fat Greek Wedding), people jump all over it. People here crave culture, as there is a shortage of it here.

So don't poop on Americans for digging up their "culture" from generations ago. It is a North American phenomenon, and it's hard to understand and explain.

At least someone around here gets it.

As far as I'm aware of no Europeans care much about whether they have family in the US or not. In Ireland I actually would say it's the other way round: most don't really enjoy the millions of Americans coming to Ireland each year claiming to have some sort of Irish heritage. Usually with idea all people here sound Darby O'Gill, sip whisky around a turf fire all day and dance jigs all day.
I have a lot of family in almost every European country and 2 aunts in South Africa (and a lot of offspring) and 3 in Australia (again a lot of offspring). Rarely speak to any of them though.

If you go to my downtown on St. Patty's day, the fucking Irish pride is legendary. These people like the fact that their ancestors came from Ireland, and I praise them for that. Shame more Americans weren't so dull and senseless to not even care about their roots. :2 cents:
 
Like you my passports are a Belgian and a Dutch one and I might even be entitled to a Hungarian one. I'm not 1/4 anything. I'm fully Belgian.

I was born in the Netherlands & have lived most of my life in the Netherlands, so I see myself as a dutchman.

Is was about asking whether Europeans had relatives in the US until Supadafly started talking about how German he was and suddenly it all snowballed into ethnicity. Typical Germans causing trouble no matter which country they are in, that's a cultural trait that seems to have withstood the passage of time :ban:

I think I'm also partly responsible...:( Sorry.. ;)
 
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