https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/p...naming-19-people-linked-chinese-birth-tourism
end this suck and shit.
End birthright citizenship in the U.S.
- Thread starter sean miguel
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/p...naming-19-people-linked-chinese-birth-tourism
end this suck and shit.
I am all for citizenship via effort. Two ways:
Provide immensely valuable labor. (Get a desperately-needed degree, work for 5 years.)
Serve in the military. (5 years.)
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Other than that, even someone born in the states shouldnt be granted automatic rights. These young cockbags who get artsy fartsy degrees who will NEVER pay off their student loans (without mom'n'dads help) let alone provide a valued service to society... should put in 5 years in yesterday's military. Not the .. toned-down version of today. You cannot train a soldier without rewiring their mind.
Provide immensely valuable labor. (Get a desperately-needed degree, work for 5 years.)
Serve in the military. (5 years.)
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Other than that, even someone born in the states shouldnt be granted automatic rights. These young cockbags who get artsy fartsy degrees who will NEVER pay off their student loans (without mom'n'dads help) let alone provide a valued service to society... should put in 5 years in yesterday's military. Not the .. toned-down version of today. You cannot train a soldier without rewiring their mind.
I quit reading your drunken rant after "serving in the military." Someone puts their life on the line for this country, they should be automatic citizens regardless of their circumstances prior. If the military is not able or willing to vet them before sending them into harms way for this country then fuck them.
On paper, that sounds good (like how the French foreign legion works).
However, do you really want new immigrants in your armed forces? Can you see the issue there?
That's a fact for sure. My concern is that if such an guarantee existed, that would spike the number of applicants exponentially (It's around 8K/yr).
Wouldn't it mean it would be much more difficult to vet properly? Then the issue becomes: if they do take the time to properly vet the larger intake, what happens to immigrants who's temporary status expire during the vetting? I know the obvious answer is to either extend the temporary status, or increase the military budget to handle the increase in applicants, but the way the US govt/military works I have doubts if they would actually implement either. Countless other "common sense solutions" fail to get enacted.
An example of military rules that boggle the mind:
Apparently a solider can be healthy enough to be deployed into a warzone, but not not healthy enough to pursue officer programs.
https://www.military.com/daily-news...-fights-regulation-forced-her-deployment.html
And of course, it goes to the core issue that even the best vetting might not catch anyone looking to enlist for subversion purposes. An increase in applicants will come with increased risk.
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree that if you successfully complete a tour of duty in an active warzone you sure as hell deserve citizenship. But the irony is that the immigrant recruits they need most also come from the areas which have the US's worst enemies.
On an interesting note, those non-citizens who enlisted can't re-enlist until they get citizenship, as well as several other restrictions (mostly advancement related). I have to wonder what the odds are for those that are affected.
https://www.military.com/join-armed...us-military-helps-naturlize-non-citizens.html
Congress desperately needs this kind of bright minds
Are you ignorant of the facts? Have you ever tried to enlist? A recruiter will GLADLY hide away your history JUST to get you to sign up.
When I enlisted, there were plenty of guys who should have the 5 year requirement.
One of my guys either did 15 years for theft or go enlist and serve 6, the judge ordered.
Another was going into service to get American citizenship. He had no .. NOOOO right to be in the service. His hygiene was nonexistent, he couldnt shoot worth a shit, didnt know left from right and fired from the 'other' side. Do you know what hot brass does to someone's face/neck when you try to fire it the 'left handed' way? This guy was SUB PAR.
I have a damned heart condition and I signed up at 20 y.o. under false pretenses to get in. Thousands upon thousands have hidden their real age, their conditions and so forth to enlist over the decades.
Enlisting and quitting just to get a dishonorable discharge should NOT be a loophole. 'Automatic citizens' is the same thing you complain about when a couple comes here and the kid becomes 'automatic citizen' status, and then the parents get a cheaper, easier way into citizenship simply because they did a dangerous thing by traveling illegally to another country to EXPECT medical service.
The military doesnt 'vet' them, they bend the numbers to meet the quota.
You didnt have a problem with someone getting a degree they wont be able to payback any time soon and put in 5 years in a job they may or may not be qualified for, though?
You didnt know? Sean did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Duffy
He now goes by 'Miguel' so he can get less heat by pushing latinos out. Its like Ocasio Cortez having an opinion on something latin/Jewish/Democrat/liberal, if you claim to be of a certain whatever.. you'll get automatic cred from the white libs.
You didnt know? Sean did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Duffy
He now goes by 'Miguel' so he can get less heat by pushing latinos out. Its like Ocasio Cortez having an opinion on something latin/Jewish/Democrat/liberal, if you claim to be of a certain whatever.. you'll get automatic cred from the white libs.
not that it matters fuck all but Sean Miguel is my first and middle name (don't doxx me bro). Miguel is grandpa's name on my mother's side in the philippines. Sean, who cares? that's some white privilege or something. I kid but I mock. My maternal grandfather lived through the Japaanese occupuation in WWII in Samar and personally suffered the brutality. I could hate the japanese but I don't. cuz I lived there and they are good people. but I digress.
Peace and love.
No doxxing but I'm gonna look for your profile on pornhub or xhamster or whatever and see if you have some homemade vids. lolol
In fact, *checks my own pornhub profile* Nah, only pix of the ex's and wife. I should really upload some stuff... hrm.
lol. no comment.
What?
Ya never know who is secretly that amateur pornstar. I think if I browsed long enough, I could find Petra or Adam or one of these mods.. although maybe that is more FetLife stuff. (Mods who edit posts inbetween whipping or CBT or.. I dunno, whatever people do behind those closed doors?).... so right, this one time on okcupid I found 4 things:
Chicks laughing at my profile.
a chick in chicago that I actually liked and we did things for 6 months.
a chick on FetLife who did the mommy/lactation thing and wanted to know if I was 'thirsty'.
a republican who I got really drunk with and apparently got pretty far until I told her about my democratic leanings. Honestly one of the best experiences, smooching on the enemy. (Well at that time I thought of her as that. I'm trying to figure out where I'm at, on that political spectrum now.. it all feels so goddamned arbitrary, like why is being pro abortion or pro life a partisan thing? I am for choice, but there should be societal punishment for making a dumbass choice that has to end with a dead life, e.g.)
I like how damned zealous everybody is about the left and right but why cant we have GUNS and BLEEDING HEARTS at the same time? *cue the clip of a sniper taking a heart shot*
how is that relevant? It is because I wonder what you guys have on your pornhub profiles or online sites.. also: Random. Whatevs. heh
Maybe not giving citizenship to every kid born on US ground. But Jus sanguinis is not a good option either.
US citizenship should be given to every kid who :
- reaches 18
- Asks for it
- has been educated in US public* school for the last 5 years
*You Might have issues with the public school thing, You Might ask why not private school.
The problem about private school is that it can be christian schools, teaching kids christian values but it may also be islamic school teaching kids how all non-muslims are their ennemies, etc. Due to the 1st Amendment, if you give US citizenship to a teen who's been in a christian school, you can't deny it to one who's been in an islamic school. So restricting that to public schools would make sure that these teens haven't been teached any religious extremism
US citizenship should be given to every kid who :
- reaches 18
- Asks for it
- has been educated in US public* school for the last 5 years
*You Might have issues with the public school thing, You Might ask why not private school.
The problem about private school is that it can be christian schools, teaching kids christian values but it may also be islamic school teaching kids how all non-muslims are their ennemies, etc. Due to the 1st Amendment, if you give US citizenship to a teen who's been in a christian school, you can't deny it to one who's been in an islamic school. So restricting that to public schools would make sure that these teens haven't been teached any religious extremism
Do we really need another generation of those types? Mandatory job training should be a thing. One basic, one advanced. or if they are the rebellious sort, send off to the military. Nothing is quite so calming as being taken down a notch and being paid to protect the country.
Religious exclusion would be one lawsuit after another ~ but citizenship via civic/government duty? Absolutely.
Granted, there is a third option. Create a 5 year 'civic service' citizenship where you work in politics. But do we really need a super-politician? Maybe. Maybe not.
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