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Deciding between Liberal and Conservative Politics


From your link.

"Congressional Democrats were quick to reject the push for lifting the drilling moratorium, saying oil companies already have 68 million acres offshore waters under lease that are not being developed."


They have a lot of areas they can drill right now if they like.

""Despite what President Bush, John McCain and their friends in the oil industry claim, we cannot drill our way out of this problem," Reid said. "The math is simple: America has just three percent of the world's oil reserves, but Americans use a quarter of its oil."


Yep the math is simple ,given the amount we consume it's clear we will not drill enough in the US or off its shores to solve the problem.Need conservation and alternatives like more nukes and some wind power.
 

georges

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I am a reaganian conservative.
 
Not exactly sure how this thread was transformed into a debate on Bush and Republicans.
Same reason it would be Democrats on a more conservative board, people have agendas to push and a majority that will back them.

This whole thread reminds me of how out-of-touch people are from reality. People will say whatever that aligns themselves to a political stance, even if it goes against what they normally believe.

People didn't care about oil until the prices came up because of non-US demand and people pulling money out of real estate and putting it in commodities. Now we have a lot of people saying we're only 5 years from running out of oil. The same people who were buying SUVs when Clinton was in. ;)

People also forget that a great majority of Al Gore's family wealth comes from oil too. And he only recently (in the last 2 years) actually started doing just some of the things in his personal life, but is still largely a hypocrite.

And the alleged "character" of different politicians just makes me laugh. Both W. and Clinton are poor examples of character. To talk about W.'s character and say Clinton's was anything is laughable. Clinton did put people needlessly in harms way, and did screw up on many details as well.

I'm not talking about Clinton's sex life, but his general attitude towards women while saying "do as I say not do as I do." I'm glad the leader of NOW came under fire for defending Clinton when Clinton would blantantly ignore instigating sexual harassment while pushing it on others.

Hypocrisy has been the staple of many US Presidents. I personally think the last two (2) have been rather poor. But then again, the US public has played a general role in "the problem" since the '70s. Even W. and Clinton have both tried to stop that in many cases, to no avail.
 
Prof---Al Gore's family money came from Tobacco. His sister died of cancer. If his family owned Exxon stock that's hardly worth mentioning.

How did Clinton put people in harm's way? Surely you're not comparing a Trillion-dollar Iraqi Nation-building Occupation with Bosnia? Yikes. That's hardly comparable in blood and treasure...

Clinton was an intellectually brilliant man with a philandering problem. Dubya was a dumbass with "personal demons" (namely coke and booze) but he was supposed to be "reformed" through finding Jesus. Remember when he said his personal hero was Jesus Christ back in 2000? Well, based on his decisions..he may have found Jesus at the bottom of a bottle or at the end of a line of blow..he didn't listen to anything Jesus said...
 
Prof---Al Gore's family money came from Tobacco. His sister died of cancer. If his family owned Exxon stock that's hardly worth mentioning.
Really? Interesting value judgement there. ;)

How did Clinton put people in harm's way? Surely you're not comparing a Trillion-dollar Iraqi Nation-building Occupation with Bosnia? Yikes. That's hardly comparable in blood and treasure...
I wasn't even thinking that. Again, re-read my statements. Also remember his hypocrisy on "do as I say not do as I do" when it came to women's rights, among other things.

Clinton was an intellectually brilliant man with a philandering problem. Dubya was a dumbass with "personal demons" (namely coke and booze) but he was supposed to be "reformed" through finding Jesus. Remember when he said his personal hero was Jesus Christ back in 2000? Well, based on his decisions..he may have found Jesus at the bottom of a bottle or at the end of a line of blow..he didn't listen to anything Jesus said...
I always found that Clinton was "out-of-touch" as much as W. with the common lay person. It only took me one (1) month during his 1992 campaign to discover how bad he was going to spend his first two (2) years. Then the Republicans took back Congress.

I only wish the Democrats would have done the same in 2002. It would have kept W. far more in check as well.
 

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People also forget that a great majority of Al Gore's family wealth comes from oil too.

Sale of "Lost Hills Naval Oil Reserve" - "Occidental Petroleum" - (Al Gore Jr. c/o the Senior ie "Daddy") :yesyes:

Not a bad deal to broker . . . AL ! While nobody was looking, I might add.

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The biggest difference between Democrats and Republicans

Listen to the differences in the crowd reactions in these two videos.

First example: John Kerry concession speech in 2004

Second example: John McCain concession speech in 2008

Notice how the crowd doesn't boo and yell out during the Kerry speech. They actually applaud in a respectful and graceful way. Unlike the people in the crowd during the McCain speech who booed, hissed and yelled out inflammatory remarks.

I think these two videos really illustrate a basic, fundamental difference between these two tribes. The Democrats have class. The Republicans don't.
 
You got a problem with me?

I don't. By bumping all of these threads you've proved that you are beyond a shadow of a doubt a straight shooter, and wisely admonished the rest of us that "we're all full of shit" which I assume includes yourself and a nice gesture.

I'm just here to talk about porn and who I nutted to last. Illegal mexicans being deported is secondary.
 
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