I totally agree - can't have said it any better myself. :thumbsup:
Deciding between Liberal and Conservative Politics
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ere is a good quiz you should take to see where you stand on the Two-dimensional socio-economic compass.
I'm Centre-Left, Centre-Libertarian. :thefinger
took this quiz again. I think we all should say YES to the question: "pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population." :glugglug:
I don't really like this test because it doesn't tell you what your political views are, just where you fall on a relative chart. I'm like near the middle of the bottom lefthand quarter. Ok? so i'm like an authortarian leftist? I don't know.
Once again, not surprising ...
Smack dab in the middle of the bottom right, as usual.
I believe strongly in personal and fiscal freedom, and the absolute responsibility that comes with both. I'll never change. I haven't since age 15 or so.
Smack dab in the middle of the bottom right, as usual.
I believe strongly in personal and fiscal freedom, and the absolute responsibility that comes with both. I'll never change. I haven't since age 15 or so.
Some examples of evil I refer to (and I think you refer to them as small timers) are these child rapists at large and psycho gunmen going ape-shit and shooting up a college or mall. Maybe your evil is different than mine alright.
As for going after Bush/Cheney, good luck. I'm not supportive of that movement. The purpose of this war is legit to me and I support and defend the allied military over there. And if I die because of it, so be it.
I'm Authoritarian Left (close to the center) according to the www.politicalcompass.org test.
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I listen to both sides before my decision. I respect most views as long as they're not too extreme (both left and right).
This test has alot of absolute questions (which I could have chosen both ways) so I found it kind of vague, but it's still a good start at surveying your political opinion.
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I listen to both sides before my decision. I respect most views as long as they're not too extreme (both left and right).
This test has alot of absolute questions (which I could have chosen both ways) so I found it kind of vague, but it's still a good start at surveying your political opinion.
Yeah we would just have different priorities and agree to disagree on what crimes that I think actually effect me a lot more than the ones you sight.Those are bad and should be dealt with but probably will never effect me.
But I would ask what legit reasons does anyone say there were now for Iraq invasion? Even Bush and McCain say now forget how we got there, were there and have to go forward.And McCain for sure has admitted the reasons we went are now repudiated.
And I don't think there is much danger you will die from what happens there under almost any scenario.The issue is that our country invaded someone on a basis that was not true and because of that we initiated a process that has cost 100,000s of Iraqis their lives.Even if you are relatively unsympathetic and think somehow they deserved that don't ya think stuff like that will hurt us in the long run somehow? Maybe not get ya killed here but somebody killed somewhere, or these people get it in their heads to make all kinds of new trouble for us somehow, like mess with the oil which we need every drop of.
I think we should look within our resouces for oil and stop using oil from the Middle East and Venezuela. Research for a better/different fuel, or drilling in Alaska, which I know that libbies cannot stand that thought.
As for the search of the underlying factor of the creation of this "unethical" war, it's a waste of time. If there were wrongs, bringing them to light won't forgive the mess that happened. Top priority is for Iraq to be able to handle their own government (and I truly hope they would stay allies with us) so we can get the fuck out and let them handle their issues.
Spoken like a true Bushie :thumbsup:
Actually I think some humility and hard public self-examination are a big part of what we'll need to move forward. Being accountable; taking responsibility; these acts of character are our best hope for restoring the hard-won respect Bushco so efficiently pissed away.
you were to scroll down. the output looks like this:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=3.12&soc=-5.08
here's the original political test. . .if you like that kind of thing. . .
http://www.nolanchart.com/survey.php
While I guess you would call me an enviormentalist it's only for reasons that I think what we are doing is determental to ourselves.Conservatives constantly bring up this drilling in ANWAR in Alaska as though that could be some real solution to the amount we import.It wouldn't be is the problem.The amount of oil that could be gotten is very small compared to how much we import.The 1st thing we must do is work on conservation as we do use and waste an extroadinary amount.Plus we need to stop using oil as much anyway to reduce the Co2 emmisions which are doing a lot of damage.I would say go ahead drill in Alaska but for every new barrel of oil we pump there commit to reduce consumption here by 2 barrels,that would be a fair swap.But both of those would still mean a lot of imports being needed so we should look to other clean forms of power which as I see it now the only one that could really replace a lot of fossil fuels would be nuclear.
But the rhetoric that we have anywhere near enough oil domestically that we could pump that would significantly reduce our dependance is just not supported by the estimates of whats available.
I agree with you on alot of this
The oil situation pisses me off and I'll laugh if the oil supply runs out. At least that'll motivate people to be forced to discover a new form of energy. I would love to see the faces of the rich Arabs, Haliburton, Chavez, and whoever else (okay add Cheney if you want haha!) when they find out their precious resource is extinct. Of course I'll miss riding my RC51
Do any of you feel the oil supply is in jeopardy of running out? I know it would suck but many people will deserve it. I've talked with people who told me they are anticipating it to happen within the next 5 years. Those people are now riding bicycles and preparing themselves for the disaster...kinda funny. I know a new type of fuel will be discovered eventually...it may take decades though until the earth gives birth to a new Einstein.
"I have two films for you to watch:
"Michael Moore Hates America"
"Manufacturing Dissent""
thanks but no thnks i dont need to be told how to think by a fat piece of shit or a right wing fanatic for that matter
too far left or right is a problem in my opinon
somewhere in the middle with a good eye for global relations would be ideal
"Michael Moore Hates America"
"Manufacturing Dissent""
thanks but no thnks i dont need to be told how to think by a fat piece of shit or a right wing fanatic for that matter
too far left or right is a problem in my opinon
somewhere in the middle with a good eye for global relations would be ideal
Yes it will run out. But not in 5 years. Brazil, apparently, has just laid claim to some big deep sea oil deposits. It will probably take THEM 5 years to bring that to market...
And in 5 years..Canada will probably figure out how to bring to market cheaply the oil in its vast oil shale fields.
I do hope that, in 5 years, our U.S. gas consumption for autos is half of what it is today.
Finally!
American Libertarians are actually "double liberal," liberal fiscal (actually known as "fiscally conservative") and liberal social (the typical liberal).
I don't want anyone telling me what to do, and I want to be responsible for myself and the people I care about.
Exactly.
But there are different types.
American Libertarians are actually "double liberal," liberal fiscal (actually known as "fiscally conservative") and liberal social (the typical liberal).
I don't want anyone telling me what to do, and I want to be responsible for myself and the people I care about.
This link - regarding Stephen Colbert's recent chat with George Will (on The Colbert Report) - and the comments discussion following it might be interesting for those who have been following this thread here at FO:
http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/
http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/
Not exactly sure how this thread was transformed into a debate on Bush and Republicans. But anyway...
I have beliefs that can be considered liberal and beliefs that can be considered conservative, and other beliefs that are in the middle. I don't think Bush is a great president, but I don't think he's as bad as a lot of people claim. The Clintons have proven they can't be trusted. If Obama and all his red flags don't scare you, then you need to pay more attention. McCain wasn't my choice, but he's the least horrible of the viable options. If he chooses a Veep who's strong on economic matters (Romney perhaps) then he won't be so bad.
I have beliefs that can be considered liberal and beliefs that can be considered conservative, and other beliefs that are in the middle. I don't think Bush is a great president, but I don't think he's as bad as a lot of people claim. The Clintons have proven they can't be trusted. If Obama and all his red flags don't scare you, then you need to pay more attention. McCain wasn't my choice, but he's the least horrible of the viable options. If he chooses a Veep who's strong on economic matters (Romney perhaps) then he won't be so bad.
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