Can most American women be bought?

[bobjustbob]

Another reason we probably see these discrepancies is because everything costs more in Scandinavia. Hotels, restaurants, food, alcohol, travel, entertainment. It's cheap enough to do anything here without breaking anyone's bank. Easy to see why dinner and a movie may look like a bribe over there.

 

[juryduty]

Most things are more expensive. Internet for example, is not. Cost almost nothing to get fiber optic lines in Sweden.

 

[luis1972]

You can buy services
You can not buy people

 

[juryduty]

You can buy services
You can not buy people

Slaves around the world would disagree.

 

[Philbert]

Slaves around the world would disagree.

There are small children who can tell, you are a bit short on smarts.

No, you can buy "rights" falsely given you to a person's corpus; you can kill the person's corpus or cause it pain; but you can not buy a person, you can force them to submit or die , their choice. But you can never own a person because you paid for them.

That lesson has been learned for hundreds of generations...somehow you actually missed them.

You never met, saw, or have any idea what a slave thinks or might say.

 

[Philbert]

You can buy services
You can not buy people

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to luis1972 again.

 

[BCT]

One of the silliest posts you've ever made.
When I look at my daughter I suppose that warm affectionate feeling I get is , according to you, joy I own a cute kid to show off and get to bring me stuff from the 'fridge?
No love or affection, no commitment to protect her from harm and give priority to her needs over mine...just another possession like my flat screen.
What I'm reading here in the OPs posts is a serious insecurity translated into the usual "I'm the center of the Universe; it starts here and radiates outward. I am the obvious norm and everyone else is just a "spear carrier" in the movie of ME, and since I am seriously insecure so is everyone else, pretty much".
Generosity also includes the attitude of allowing people the joy of doing for others, like accepting a gift with a thank you , not anger and insult.
If looking at a pretty woman and smiling is such an insult, maybe throwing a rock at her for being so pretty and not being your girlfriend would be the preferred course in say, Sweden? Not friendly and complimentary but honestly aggressive?
The reality is the US went through a sequence of "radical Feminism" in the 70s and 80s, but we outgrew that extreme self righteous crap and have moved on; time for the Euros to start living in a more real world and have some freedom to interact without so much self centered introspection of every little act.
I won't get into PC here, I need to watch my blood pressure...

Considering that California was the center of the massive "counter-culture" movement, where possessions were rejected and caring for people, the planet, and not monetary things was a central part of the lifestyle, jd seems to have found his niche with shallow people and completely missed the millions of non-possession driven people all around him...very telling.

Not talking about family, most people love their family but don't give a crap about anyone else.

 

[juryduty]

Not talking about family, most people love their family but don't give a crap about anyone else.

Agreed, Most people really don't. I've seen people stand around and take pictures at a crisis instead of helping those who had been injured. Disgusting.

 

[Philbert]

Sounds like A) you are making shit up or B) you were standing there watching others taking pictures of a crisis ( a "crisis"? Really?)
You get lamer with every post...Siri had you pegged at the first.

 

[juryduty]

Sounds like A) you are making shit up or B) you were standing there watching others taking pictures of a crisis ( a "crisis"? Really?)
You get lamer with every post...Siri had you pegged at the first.

Oh I filmed kittens being trampled on and had a good laugh. Look, you guys are going to theorize about me anyway, coming up with bogus ideas of what I did and who I am but the fact is you don't know what I'm about. Do you think I give two shits about what Siri thinks about me? Heh, I know I could shut you all up if I revealed who I was but that would come with a lot of other baggage that I do not need.

I lost my first girlfriend because I didn't do what the others in Holland were doing and filming the people who had been crushed, I went over to help and shoved the people who were making entertainment out of the accident, out of the way. She didn't take kindly to me standing out of the crowd. I don't regret for a minute my choices. I did however decide that Holland was not for me, so left.

 

[juryduty]

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/brilliant-animation-perfectly-breaks-economics-sex-video/

I think this video sums up my problem with American dating culture. The video seems to have a conservative agenda as it implies that birth control has ruined family values. It also suggest that all people WANT to get married when in reality, many don't. Some people don't need that in their life.

Furthermore, from personal experience in Sweden, I've been with women who wanted sex more than I did.

 

[juryduty]

To be honest this whole thread went to hell when it became personal attacks against people and countries. I asked a question because I noticed a difference in culture in the media. You all made it something about me. From that point onwards it wouldn't matter what I wrote in this forum, regardless of which thread, it would be discredited because you all don't like what I wrote here.

 

[Rey C.]

Slaves around the world would disagree.

True.

 

[bobjustbob]

That video made many assumptions and I don't see any surveys and very little data backing up their many claims. The are projecting their opinions. I gave you some of the socioeconomic differences and I think they have some validity. If USA courtship practices seem to be extravagant then you are wrong. We spend as much on our guys night outs as we do on our dates. We'll get some sports tickets, have some drinks and food. Have some laughs. Nothing more than the cost of a date with a woman. When we court it is to get alone time and nothing more.

We can have socials at home just like you do for movie or game nights but it is never a mixed singles thing. It is mostly for couples. We don't flick on the porn in these environments. Most of the guests would be creeped out.

 

[Rey C.]

In yet another episode of Rey C.'s This One Time At Band Camp...

Went to a friend's wedding years ago. One of the other attendees was this guy we knew in college who (AFAIK) never went on a date and was ever seen with a girl socially. We didn't think it was because he was gay... it was because he was super creepy and girls (and some guys) were scared of him. If you brought a girl over to watch a game at a friendly gathering, Jerry would stare at your girl's ass while she walked to the bathroom. He'd stare at her chest when she wasn't paying attention. Dude was seriously creepy! Hence his nickname: Scary Jerry. But anyway, he showed up at the wedding with this absolute babe. I'm talking real deal model material. He was making good money as an engineer, so we (the guys) just figured he'd somehow managed to pull a babe because he now had money and a nice car (Porsche 968, as I recall). But some of the girls who were at the wedding, who also knew Jerry in school (and kept their rape whistles at the ready whenever he was in a room with them), didn't accept our theory.

The girls got Ultra Babe (who they didn't like because all of us guys were slobbering after her like Jerry had them for years) liquored up and got it out of her that she was an escort. Jerry had paid her to come to the wedding with him. And the kicker: the escort date was only for the wedding - NO SEX. Their room had double beds. He slept alone. Jerry! :wtf: So here's a case of a guy who bought a girl... and still didn't get any pussy! Only in Jerry's world.

But in addition to the weird things people do to meet expectations of other people or impress them and the fact that yeah, some girls (not just American) can be "bought", the real lesson I took from this was: a bunch of suspicious girls are better detectives than Magnum P.I.

I lost touch (didn't know him that well anyway) with Jerry. I wonder what ever happened to him? Probably either a billionaire owner of some tech startup... or he's in jail as a sex offender. Could have gone either way. :dunno:

 

[Philbert]

Oh I filmed kittens being trampled on and had a good laugh. Look, you guys are going to theorize about me anyway, coming up with bogus ideas of what I did and who I am but the fact is you don't know what I'm about. Do you think I give two shits about what Siri thinks about me? Heh, I know I could shut you all up if I revealed who I was but that would come with a lot of other baggage that I do not need.

I lost my first girlfriend because I didn't do what the others in Holland were doing and filming the people who had been crushed, I went over to help and shoved the people who were making entertainment out of the accident, out of the way. She didn't take kindly to me standing out of the crowd. I don't regret for a minute my choices. I did however decide that Holland was not for me, so left.

 

[juryduty]

This is the event I speak of. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5251552.stm

Look, just because you'd likely sit on your ass and do nothing doesn't mean everybody is like you. Quit trying to steer this thread off course.

 

[Motor.boater]

Chicks are attracted to guys with ambition, because they have none of their own. To answer the op's question, I'll say "probably", but not blatantly. I'd even scratch the "American" off too.

 

[Anonyne#017]

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/brilliant-animation-perfectly-breaks-economics-sex-video/

I think this video sums up my problem with American dating culture. The video seems to have a conservative agenda as it implies that birth control has ruined family values. It also suggest that all people WANT to get married when in reality, many don't. Some people don't need that in their life.

Furthermore, from personal experience in Sweden, I've been with women who wanted sex more than I did.

Maybe I should have just posted here instead of making another thread... :2 cents:

Chicks are attracted to guys with ambition, because they have none of their own.

Dang... good thing that porn exists for such an ambitionless man like me... I guess one of my rare ambitions is to have a quality woman and I decline to be a backup plan for any cheap woman... fuck life, I need to go and find some virgin women...

I've understood that dating a richer women is always the best option for those men who seek a good and long lasting relationship as they actually pay more time and effort to the relationship and family itself when they are already happy with what they make, while the cheap bottom bitches fight for whatever novelty shit each day with bigger dick, rich men, leftovers and spend all day long stressing for money or something to that direction...

Oh, and suck my sweaty balls your racist scandinavian haters... :thefinger

 

[MustBeGood]

This is the event I speak of. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5251552.stm

Look, just because you'd likely sit on your ass and do nothing doesn't mean everybody is like you. Quit trying to steer this thread off course.

Steer threads off courses? That is Phil's style!

All he does is push this and post:

Chicks are attracted to guys with ambition, because they have none of their own. To answer the op's question, I'll say "probably", but not blatantly. I'd even scratch the "American" off too.

This.

True.