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Border Wall

Luxman

#TRE45ON
The is no border wall, there are only fences covering about 20% of the border, and all were built before Trump conned his way into becoming president.

How much of the border already has a wall or a fence?

Roughly one-third of the U.S.-Mexico line, or 654 miles, has security fencing, according to extensive government reporting on the subject.

In some ways, that number is misleading: There are just 354 miles of pedestrian barrier. The rest is vehicle barrier, low-lying posts designed to stop cars and trucks. “Vehicle fencing has been effective in slowing and prohibiting drive throughs, vehicle fencing is not designed to slow or deter illegal entrants from entering or smuggling contraband,” a 2017 report from the Government Accountability Office states.

Put another way, more than 80 percent of the boundary has no man-made obstacle to stop people crossing on foot. Some segments seem truly wide open. The Border Patrol’s Big Bend Sector in Texas covers 510 miles of border and has only 5 miles of fence.

Perhaps as important as the amount of fencing is its effectiveness.

Where they exist, fences do deter some crossers and slow down others. And modern pedestrian fencing, usually with tall steel bollards, is more effective than older styles. The GAO report concluded crossers breached “legacy” pedestrian fencing at an average rate of 82 breaches per fence mile, compared with an average of 14 breaches per fence mile of modern pedestrian fencing.

But even the 18-foot-tall steel barriers can be scaled in seconds by a reasonably athletic person. And makeshift ladders are common.

The GAO report concluded that agents find pedestrian fencing in urban areas effective at pushing illicit activity out of town. However, the government “cannot measure the contribution of fencing to border security operations along the southwest border because it has not developed metrics for this assessment.”


https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...er-mexico-united-states-wall-built/647521001/
 
You mean, anti-aircraft devices that aren't dispatched on the border ?

I guess they're going to use anti aircraft artillery to shoot down commercial airliners?

My dad came to this country back in the 70s as teenager. He didn't cross the border on foot though. He just got his ass on an airplane and overstayed his visit. He eventually got citizenship. I remember Jorge Ramos throwing out a statistic about something like 50% of undocumented immigrants actually enter the country via plane. Not sure how true that is but it makes sense. You'd have build a really big wall to stop airliners passing through LMFAO

#StraightShooter
 

bobjustbob

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So Lux, do fences work or not? If I've got a fence set up, am I not monitoring the outreaches of the boarder beyond my fenced property? Let's say that I live 2 miles from the boarder. Do I have to post a sign saying, "Do not cross this fence. Private property."?

The UN has been called into this situation and they have choices. Go make the choices but one thing is for sure, The caravan will not breach the protocol of immigration protocol. Ain't gonna happen. Best advice to these people is to go back home and occupy their own land. Resolve their governments to reform.

Central America has resources within and support from around the globe.

UN, support Mexico and charter some buses back across their southern boarder. Pack some pick-a-nick baskets and some clothing from Nike. Tell the folks back at home that it is not worth the trip. Grow or make stuff to sell in an open market. Craft goods that are good to sell. We will buy them.
 

georges

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bobjustbob

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Straight Shooter, I'm glad that you are here. Your dad did a good thing. He got through all of the obstetricals to be a good USA citizen. I want more of your dad to come here.
 

ChuckFaze

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So spare us the safety talk, conbservatives don't care about safety, otherwise they wouldn't be so adamantly against all form of gun-control

but we can also change a few words tomake the case for other, more radical ways to fight illegal immigration
The day YOU live close to this wall (fence if that's what you want to call it), THEN make more educated comments. Otherwise, your view from France limits you a lot for sure.
 

georges

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The day YOU live close to this wall (fence if that's what you want to call it), THEN make more educated comments. Otherwise, your view from France limits you a lot for sure.

Johan is a stateless socialist and you ask obviously too much from someone who doesn't know what patriotism is.
 

ChuckFaze

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I remember Jorge Ramos throwing out a statistic about something like 50% of undocumented immigrants actually enter the country via plane. Not sure how true that is but it makes sense. You'd have build a really big wall to stop airliners passing through LMFAO

#StraightShooter

I wouldn't believe anything Jorge Ramos says. He's a treasonous shithole ... a wolf in sheep's clothing ... a Mexican Crusader in USA citizen's clothing. He should have never been given USA citizenship. In fact, it should be revoked.

I remember when he started touting this statistic, which HE probably came up with, that only 3% of illegals were criminals / bad people. I think he never bothered to do the Math; didn't realize that 3% of 11 or 12 million or however many millions of illegals there are here ... was a LOT of criminals! He then changed it to something more along the lines of, "Well, there are definitely more good people than there are bad people in those illegals." :rofl:
 

ChuckFaze

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Johan is a stateless socialist and you ask obviously too much from someone who doesn't know what patriotism is.
I practically have the wall in my living room. I live about 3 minutes from the wall. I have witnessed with my own eyes the effectiveness of the wall and am still doing so to this day. There is absolutely NOTHING that Johan can possibly say, especially from way over in France ... nothing any link, study or YouTube on the Net can claim ... nothing ANY politician can claim that can neutralize and make disappear what I have personally seen right in front of me regarding that the wall works.

Before the wall was erected, the illegals crossings across the border were shameless and nonchalant by ALL --- women, men, children on any and every given day. And now? I have not seen any in years. Obviously it's not just some utterly useless waste of money ornament as the illegals and detractors want to make it out to be. I guarantee you the illegals would much prefer that things go back to the way they were --- a NO Wall Hillary Walk in the Park to cross over with virtually zero effort.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Dude, the wall is in your mind. :(

Better to admit to yourself that you're wrong than to live in denial.
 
I practically have the wall in my living room. I live about 3 minutes from the wall. I have witnessed with my own eyes the effectiveness of the wall and am still doing so to this day. There is absolutely NOTHING that Johan can possibly say, especially from way over in France ... nothing any link, study or YouTube on the Net can claim ... nothing ANY politician can claim that can neutralize and make disappear what I have personally seen right in front of me regarding that the wall works.

Before the wall was erected, the illegals crossings across the border were shameless and nonchalant by ALL --- women, men, children on any and every given day. And now? I have not seen any in years. Obviously it's not just some utterly useless waste of money ornament as the illegals and detractors want to make it out to be. I guarantee you the illegals would much prefer that things go back to the way they were --- a NO Wall Hillary Walk in the Park to cross over with virtually zero effort.

Then I guess you could easily provide us some pictures of it. I mean, real photos, taken by yourself.

But even if the walls does exists, the fact that conservatives keep telling us how thousands illegals are entering the country each day (sic) just proves that the reasonb why you don't see them anymore is that they are crossing-over somewhere else. And even if Trump manages to have the wall covering the border entirely, they are still going ot find a way in.
We're talking about people who came from thousands of miles away, who went across Mexico from the south border ot the nort border. The US-Mexico bord is the final obstacle on their way, a wall is not gonna stop them, not matter how high it is. I'm not even sure putting machine-guns on top of the wall and start shooting at them would be enough to make them give up their dream of getting into the US...
 
Then I guess you could easily provide us some pictures of it. I mean, real photos, taken by yourself.

But even if the walls does exists, the fact that conservatives keep telling us how thousands illegals are entering the country each day (sic) just proves that the reasonb why you don't see them anymore is that they are crossing-over somewhere else. And even if Trump manages to have the wall covering the border entirely, they are still going ot find a way in.
We're talking about people who came from thousands of miles away, who went across Mexico from the south border ot the nort border. The US-Mexico bord is the final obstacle on their way, a wall is not gonna stop them, not matter how high it is. I'm not even sure putting machine-guns on top of the wall and start shooting at them would be enough to make them give up their dream of getting into the US...

I say we should give each illegal a free boat ride to France. Imagine the welcoming committee lol. Liberals would be going ape shit sucking illegal cocks lol
 

bobjustbob

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I say we should give each illegal a free boat ride to France. Imagine the welcoming committee lol. Liberals would be going ape shit sucking illegal cocks lol

What RJ means is that the most humanitarian thing to do is to have these people resolve their situations back home. There are people counting on you to help them back at home. Moving into USA is not the solution to the problems back at home. I stress this over and over again. Come here under the process. I'm for simplifying the process. There are jobs here that many of these people qualify for.

We've got a job glut here. Apply for a job and you will get it. Pass the piss test. I'm not talking about grape pickers (we've got machines for that} Run a machine that picks grapes. Learn how to use a tape measure. Learn how to cut stuff. Make shit for me and you. Yea come on in. I'll help you find an apartment.
 
What RJ means is that the most humanitarian thing to do is to have these people resolve their situations back home. There are people counting on you to help them back at home. Moving into USA is not the solution to the problems back at home. I stress this over and over again. Come here under the process. I'm for simplifying the process. There are jobs here that many of these people qualify for.

We've got a job glut here. Apply for a job and you will get it. Pass the piss test. I'm not talking about grape pickers (we've got machines for that} Run a machine that picks grapes. Learn how to use a tape measure. Learn how to cut stuff. Make shit for me and you. Yea come on in. I'll help you find an apartment.

No, that's not what he means. What he said is pretty simple : he wants to offer every migrant a free boat ride to France.

RJ is far from being able to elaborate any complex thought. So don't try to make him look smarter than he actually is.
 
No, that's not what he means. What he said is pretty simple : he wants to offer every migrant a free boat ride to France.

RJ is far from being able to elaborate any complex thought. So don't try to make him look smarter than he actually is.

You’re not exactly Noam Chomsky there slick.
 

ChuckFaze

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Then I guess you could easily provide us some pictures of it. I mean, real photos, taken by yourself.

But even if the walls does exists, the fact that conservatives keep telling us how thousands illegals are entering the country each day (sic) just proves that the reasonb why you don't see them anymore is that they are crossing-over somewhere else. And even if Trump manages to have the wall covering the border entirely, they are still going ot find a way in.
We're talking about people who came from thousands of miles away, who went across Mexico from the south border ot the nort border. The US-Mexico bord is the final obstacle on their way, a wall is not gonna stop them, not matter how high it is. I'm not even sure putting machine-guns on top of the wall and start shooting at them would be enough to make them give up their dream of getting into the US...
You're missing the point. For example: In a typical war there are different types of battle fronts / areas of attack that have to be defended. That's why there is need for Army, Navy and Air Force. Each one has a certain responsibility, a certain situation they have to defend / attack.

Likewise, the wall (Translated for you: The Border Fence) has its specific responsibility / purpose, its specific area it has to defend. The long time preferred method of entry into the USA used to be the old-fashioned, plain ole simplistic - walk across the border. It USED to be very easy.

I'm not denying illegals are now crossing via other methods. Of course they are. The question is: WHY is there now a need to be crossing via other methods? Why did the illegals have to bother with exploring / engineering other methods to enter into the USA illegally? If the wall is nonexistent as you say it is or useless as other detractors say it is, why the sudden need to create other methods of illegal entry? Why not just simply keep on using the tried and true method of walking right across the border as they used to do for eons?

I'll tell you why. Because that preferred method of simply walking across the border was shut down cold by the wall. (Border Fence) By the wall doing its job so well, now the illegals have been forced into more drastic and even fatal methods. Now there is for example, the risking and in many cases LOSING their lives while sardined in trailers of 18 Wheelers in the middle of the summer. If the wall wasn't doing its job so well defending the front line 1st line of defense, there'd be no need for those illegals to be playing Russian Roulette with such risky methods. They'd simply walk across. So yes, the wall is doing its job of shutting down / defending the battle front that it was meant to defend.

As for other methods of entry, for example the one about coming in via a temporary visa and simply not returning to their country? Shit like that could easily be fixed or at least way minimized ... IF Democrats were willing to let Trump tighten the shit out of / close up that tunnel of a loophole. And no, the wall was not meant to stop illegals on airliners. That's ludicrous.

Anyway, I have better things to do than to waste my time if someone doesn't even understand the simple concept of what the function of the wall is. I'm off to go watch the latest blockbuster: The Wall Kicks the Shit Out of the Central American Caravan. It's based on a true story.
 

ChuckFaze

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Mexico Confirms: Migrant Group That Stormed US Border Will Be Deported
https://www.westernjournal.com/mexi...tm_content=2018-11-25&utm_campaign=manualpost
The Western Journal said:
Vowing to outlast the migrants, Nielsen said the U.S. will continue its "robust" presence along the border, Fox News reported.
:rubbel: :rubbel: :rubbel: :rubbel: :rubbel: Nice! That's quite some orgasmic News. :D Of course, it would have been even more orgasmic if all 500 people would be deported instead of just 39. That would have REALLY sent a message to all the fuckers. :yesyes:
 
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