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Auto industry, seeing new life, is on hiring spree

It might be unpopular to hammer Washington, so I'll avoid that for a moment.

You have to admit Pershing did a good job in keeping the US troops from being "brigaded" out to the English or French armies.

Not to make light of Eisenhower's accomplishment, but lets face it, he had resources behind him.

No to be fair, we'll have to prorate all of the numbers out to Austin's time in command.

Pro-rating numbers for Austin doesn't make sense. The other generals have major accomplishments. Austin may have similar numbers at this point in his tenure, but he has a long way to go.

Scott probably compares favorable. He had tremendous logistical issues. The heat must have been horrible too. Considering those uniforms they wore back then it must have been icky.

Austin isn't the only one coming in late. Grant came in late, as the commanding general. I would think his numbers are fairly horrible though. Pershing would have had similarly horrible numbers. Scott, Washington, and even Austin would definitely compare much more favorably.

Don't do it....don't do it.

This thread is about Auto industry hiring and to a consistent degree about un/employment, jobs and the effect of policy on them.

Start your own thread....and don't try to hijack this one.:2 cents:

(The ploy is about as transparent as a clear glass of water...it also happens to be against the rules.)
 
It might be unpopular to hammer Washington, so I'll avoid that for a moment.

You have to admit Pershing did a good job in keeping the US troops from being "brigaded" out to the English or French armies.

Not to make light of Eisenhower's accomplishment, but lets face it, he had resources behind him.

No to be fair, we'll have to prorate all of the numbers out to Austin's time in command.

You have to keep in mind with what Washington was dealing with, if you're going to keep things in perspective.

He had to contend with Lee. Lee had some credibility as an English officer, but not a commanding general. He was arrogant and condescending. His problem was that no matter what changes or what people said, he wasn't open to learning. Understandable why he was relieved of command. Paranoid and arrogant.

Gates also had experience in the English army without real leadership experience. He never would have been able to devise a mult-prong attach like Arnold actually did at Saratoga (kind of like today, people may use IM and email to coordinate a message thread parody - Gates may not even get the point, he may just get angry). Arnold also knew when he won and left the field in Saratoga to the loosing English.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
I will start to hand out infractions if you guys don't get back to the original topic:

The car industry, and time period: today.
 
I will start to hand out infractions if you guys don't get back to the original topic:

The car industry, and time period: today.

Thanks Supa...

Regarding the hiring 'spree' in this article, it is very promising considering where the US auto industry was just 2.5 years ago, and the problems with the banking industry (which would be financing potential buyers), the housing market collapse (which ripples through the whole of the housing construction job line), unemployment trending upward, . Add to that the skittishness of business, investors, etc..coming off of getting pillaged by the market and it's a good thing u/e didn't end up in the mid to upper teens.

As it stands it only hit a high of 10.1 and was only above 10 pct. for 3 months as the last time u/e was over 10 pct. it stayed there for 10 straight months. (Can anyone imagine if u/e was over 10 pct for 10 straight months today??:surprise:)

Given time this economy will not only be back it will be stronger and less prone to the previously volatile (and in some ways corrupt) underpinnings even if it's making a slow, steady comeback.
 

josesentme

Banned
Thanks Supa...

Regarding the hiring 'spree' in this article, it is very promising considering where the US auto industry was just 2.5 years ago, and the problems with the banking industry (which would be financing potential buyers), the housing market collapse (which ripples through the whole of the housing construction job line), unemployment trending upward, . Add to that the skittishness of business, investors, etc..coming off of getting pillaged by the market and it's a good thing u/e didn't end up in the mid to upper teens.

As it stands it only hit a high of 10.1 and was only above 10 pct. for 3 months as the last time u/e was over 10 pct. it stayed there for 10 straight months. (Can anyone imagine if u/e was over 10 pct for 10 straight months today??:surprise:)

Given time this economy will not only be back it will be stronger and less prone to the previously volatile (and in some ways corrupt) underpinnings even if it's making a slow, steady comeback.


I have to agree it is good to see more auto workers back to work. Some of those families hit upon some tough times over the past few years.

Good job Supa (However the last posting is technically in violation...just sayin')
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
I have to agree it is good to see more auto workers back to work. Some of those families hit upon some tough times over the past few years.

Good job Supa (However the last posting is technically in violation...just sayin')

Ah hell, let's not be TOO anal about stuff ;)
 

georges

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Staff member
the us auto industry knew its golden age from 1957 till 1971, there was a second wave of a shorter era of the success in the us auto industry which ran from 1986 till 2003. Nothing built after these years is that great or collectible, just look at the ads in the hemmings or on carsonline.net, you will see which cars hold their value to the best. The cars of yesteryear are so much better and far far more valuable than today cars.
 
the us auto industry knew its golden age from 1957 till 1971, there was a second wave of a shorter era of the success in the us auto industry which ran from 1986 till 2003. Nothing built after these years is that great or collectible, just look at the ads in the hemmings or on carsonline.net, you will see which cars hold their value to the best. The cars of yesteryear are so much better and far far more valuable than today cars.

The best years are yet to come Georges. It's a good thing they were loaned the money to comeback and stage a 'hiring spree'.

If they were allowed to fail, who knows where the u/e rate would be now? Could have been much much worse..:2 cents:

Good job Obami!!
 

georges

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Staff member
The best years are yet to come Georges. It's a good thing they were loaned the money to comeback and stage a 'hiring spree'.

If they were allowed to fail, who knows where the u/e rate would be now? Could have been much much worse..:2 cents:

Good job Obami!!

Pontiac was gone in 2009, not sure that Mercury will survive too. Also add the fact that Mopar has been resold to FIAT and that FIAT makes shitty cars, it really doesn't help mopar chrysler. Ford didn't loan money but did very well. To systematically loan money means paying interests on the loans you have made in the past, and the interest rates on the loans are pretty high. So with what you reimburse you cut of a part of your turnover. Living on credit or always loaning is not wise especially on the long run.
I would rather stick to an older american or vintage car than to a modern one.
 
Pontiac was gone in 2009, not sure that Mercury will survive too. Also add the fact that Mopar has been resold to FIAT and that FIAT makes shitty cars, it really doesn't help mopar chrysler.
Well, the thing is it really did help Chrysler because of what you allude to later in your post.
Ford didn't loan money but did very well.
Ford was suffering too as well as their rivals...just not as much so they could afford to reject help...Just like Wells Fargo (for example in the banking crisis) didn't need bailout help. Didn't mean they didn't suffer too along with the failing economy....just that they made a few different business decisions that made them less vulnerable.
To systematically loan money means paying interests on the loans you have made in the past, and the interest rates on the loans are pretty high. So with what you reimburse you cut of a part of your turnover. Living on credit or always loaning is not wise especially on the long run.
It is wise to borrow money when the alternative is going out of business. As it stands asking for and receiving g'ment loans 2 years ago was a success for them as borne out in this article.

Regarding g'ment loans and interest (monetary accrual and autonomy) that's why Chrysler took investment from Fiat...not because they just loved the way Fiat built cars but because at least Fiat was in the car business unlike the g'ment.

So they took investment from Fiat in order to divest the g'ment from their enterprise. Receiving a g'ment loan then converting it to a Fiat investment is farrrrrr better than losing all their assets through chapter 7 bankruptcy and ceasing to exist as Chrysler dontchathink??

Heck of a job Obami!!:hatsoff:
 
and the interest rates on the loans are pretty high. So with what you reimburse you cut of a part of your turnover. Living on credit or always loaning is not wise especially on the long run.
I would rather stick to an older american or vintage car than to a modern one.



Interest rates are going to be higher.


The Dems love living off of credit/borrowing. They won't want to pay when it's time to do so, instead they hope someone else will pay for them. In the meantime they just kick the proverbial can down the road, spending and borrowing as they go along.
 
Just reading a Yahoo News posting on GM building the Sonic (sound like a cheeseburger? ...yum!) in Michigan. That is great!
 
It's be just as cheezy.........and greasy.

I tend to burn more fossil fuels that that car does. :nanner:

I'm bad for the environment.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
The Dems love living off of credit/borrowing. They won't want to pay when it's time to do so, instead they hope someone else will pay for them.

So Donald Trump and W. Bush were Democrats. As my pal Ira would say, "Who knew? Who knew?" :dunno:

I also find it hugely amusing that Trump made SUCH a big deal out of the U.S. performing the "debotor in possession" financing for GM and Chrysler (and he was right, IMO)... yet not two years later he became Dandy Don of the Tea Bagger set. Crazy times, indeed. Night is day. Black is white. Up is down. :rolleyes: But it makes it easier for me to not shoot iced tea out of my nose when I read Cassandra Cruz claiming that she's never done the very things that I have vids and pictures of her doing (maybe she has a twin sister who did porn... while she was in church). And maybe she'll run for the GOP nomination for POTUS. She can just claim she's never been a porn star and she's against anything and everything that might offend the Tea Bagger/Evangelical set. Other than that, all she has to remember to say are the magic words, "All we need to do is cut taxes and deregulate."

Spin away, folks. But increased employment in the auto sector specifically, and American manufacturing in general, is GOOD NEWS! If you say or believe otherwise, I think your Patriot Card needs to be revoked. I don't give a fuck whether Obama is the President or Michele Bachmann. Without a healthy manufacturing base, this country is economically doomed.


“You know what the trouble is, Brucey? We used to make shit in this country… build shit. Now we just put our hand in the next guy’s pocket.” – Frank Sabotka, The Wire
 
the us auto industry knew its golden age from 1957 till 1971, there was a second wave of a shorter era of the success in the us auto industry which ran from 1986 till 2003. Nothing built after these years is that great or collectible, just look at the ads in the hemmings or on carsonline.net, you will see which cars hold their value to the best. The cars of yesteryear are so much better and far far more valuable than today cars.

Better is far fetched! Cars of today are safer, better built, faster, better mpg, handle better, stop better and offer so many features for the dollar.

Classic cars will always have great style and investment value, i agree. But overall they don't stack up to current cars.
 
The Left believes people are bad for the environment.

I have one foot firmly planted on the left. :)

It is just good to see GM making econo cars in the US.
 
The Left believes people are bad for the environment.

Good gracious, man. The number of posts in which you reference and mock the left make you a cartoon. Honestly, I'm not trying to be confrontational or to mock you. I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous you look.

You know how you make fun of people who harp on the same thing all the time? Yeah. You're doing it now. I hope you stop, because in general I think you have good things to say. But every time the phrase "the left" is in your post, I :sleep:
 
Good gracious, man. The number of posts in which you reference and mock the left make you a cartoon. Honestly, I'm not trying to be confrontational or to mock you. I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous you look.

You know how you make fun of people who harp on the same thing all the time? Yeah. You're doing it now. I hope you stop, because in general I think you have good things to say. But every time the phrase "the left" is in your post, I :sleep:

lol...I like Trident. We all can't be the same!
 
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