Ashley Blue Almost choked to Death!

[Facial_King]

Oh, whoremaker, there you go again, being judgmental and heaping your own personal beliefs onto others... tsk-tsk!

I'm sure you are familiar with trying to pawn off crayon pictures as arguments, but they're not valid currency with me.

You throw around a lot of ad hominem comments, but just as you call us "non-medical armchair philosophers" for suggesting she's not all there to consent to being choked unconscious (even if only for a few seconds), you have apparently made a definitive diagnosis that she is mentally sound.

Meat-headed libertarian phrase of the day: "right to star in choke porn" - Oh boy, there's something to fight for! I'm gonna organize a march on Washington for THAT!

 

[whoremaker]

you have apparently made a definitive diagnosis that she is mentally sound.

A person is mentally sound until interviewed, examined and determined otherwise, by a professional. It's automatic. Even a tool like you should realize that.

 

[D-rock]

Lots of self righteousness here, considering this is a porn board. Honestly, how can anyone state, in essence, "My kinks are cool, but that is stupid and anyone who likes/does it is stupid" and not feel grossly arrogant? Maybe the guy who likes choke porn finds your Interracial Slutwife Double Anal Goat Porn disgusting, or you both find that person's fetish for Public Fisting Squrrel Bukkake gross. Who has a right (so long as the scene involves consenting and paid individuals) to judge and call other people's kinks wrong? I personally don't find that vid appealing, but I'd never be such a dick as to tell anyone who gets off on it that they're psycho.

Really, ditch the fuckin' high horses. It's porn.

Because it REALLY IS SCREWED UP. For the record I extremely detest gimmicks or circus acts in porn, like “Interracial Slutwife Double Anal Goat Porn“, and think they're incredibly stupid but even most of them don't involve violence. There really is something mentally fucked up with people that get off with watching other people get hurt in porn or even having things done to them they don't like. There is a difference between people who like things that are just really really ridiculous, and people who like things that make them borderline sociopathic with a good helping of misogyny thrown in.

 

[Gordar]

My problem with this thread is not the act, which is not my cup of tea, not the fact that people have different opinions, which is only logical and IMHO a good thing, but the judging of other people.

A few hundred years ago, anal sex was viewed in much the same way this is viewed right now. The anus is not the cleanest of areas, not meant for a penis & can cause physical harm, which back then could lead to infections since people generally didn't lead such a hygienic life as people do today (buttplugs and other tools which many pornstars use today to stretch their asshole before a scene didn't exist back then). Also, since a lot of children died before they learned how to walk & speak, it was considered a waste of perfectly good seed.

People who had anal sex were seen as gay or insane (back then it was the same thing).

Today, watching people kill eachother & enjoying it (not necessarily sexually) is considered insane, but back in the Roman Empire, it was considered to be a normal way to pass time.

In Japan, sex with minors is allowed (if you ever play a Hentai game & see a girl that's supposed to be 18, be assured that she's not 18 yet in the original Japanese version), but showing sexual organs in media isn't. To most Western people, this is insane, yet Japanese people consider it to be perfectly normal.

Back in the early 20th century, there were still tribes in Papua New Guinnea that ate their beaten enemies. Totally insane to us, but to those people perfectly normal.

Owning guns is perfectly normal in the US and even though the person using the gun is a criminal, a gun itself only has one use, shooting living beings & will thus only be used by criminals. To most people outside of the US this right is insane, yet, in the US a large majority agrees that it's perfectly sane.

I could go on for a while about the following subjects: Soft Drugs (the Netherlands), Abortion (Ireland & the US), Euthanasia (more & more European countries), etc...

Independent psychiatrists and independent psychologists have been arguing what is sane & what isn't for years and they still haven't reached a conclusion (& probably never will).

Since society of the group is slowly but surely making place for a society of the individual (something I don't like, but that's an entirely different discussion) & since it's society that decides what's sane & acceptable & what isn't, this discussion you've been having will lead nowhere. In the end it's the individual that decides what is sane & what isn't.

This thread is about whether it's sane or insane to do or watch such scenes & there simply is no yes or no answer.

 

[hotslutsrgood]

wtf that clip is so fucked up

 

[Facial_King]

My problem with this thread is not the act, which is not my cup of tea, not the fact that people have different opinions, which is only logical and IMHO a good thing, but the judging of other people.

A few hundred years ago, anal sex was viewed in much the same way this is viewed right now. The anus is not the cleanest of areas, not meant for a penis & can cause physical harm, which back then could lead to infections since people generally didn't lead such a hygienic life as people do today (buttplugs and other tools which many pornstars use today to stretch their asshole before a scene didn't exist back then).

Even if society has evolved (progressed) in some ways on some sexual issues, it doesn't mean that everything which is now unacceptable and considered immoral will - or should be- eventually accepted.

I find myself on the far-left libertarian side of the vast majority of social issues, but that doesn't mean that I'm somehow obliged to, for example, brush off societal bans on incest or bestiality or pedophilia - or even "choke porn" - as merely attributable to our current uptight social mores. That's playing right into the hands of the GOP losers who warn us that if we allow gay marriage we'll inevitably sanction and legalize absolutely everything else. I don't think so, I don't want that ("everything goes"), and I don't buy it!

:2 cents:

 

[ed007]

wait

 

[ed007]

My problem with this thread is not the act, which is not my cup of tea, not the fact that people have different opinions, which is only logical and IMHO a good thing, but the judging of other people.

A few hundred years ago, anal sex was viewed in much the same way this is viewed right now. The anus is not the cleanest of areas, not meant for a penis & can cause physical harm, which back then could lead to infections since people generally didn't lead such a hygienic life as people do today (buttplugs and other tools which many pornstars use today to stretch their asshole before a scene didn't exist back then). Also, since a lot of children died before they learned how to walk & speak, it was considered a waste of perfectly good seed.

People who had anal sex were seen as gay or insane (back then it was the same thing).

Today, watching people kill eachother & enjoying it (not necessarily sexually) is considered insane, but back in the Roman Empire, it was considered to be a normal way to pass time.

In Japan, sex with minors is allowed (if you ever play a Hentai game & see a girl that's supposed to be 18, be assured that she's not 18 yet in the original Japanese version), but showing sexual organs in media isn't. To most Western people, this is insane, yet Japanese people consider it to be perfectly normal.

Back in the early 20th century, there were still tribes in Papua New Guinnea that ate their beaten enemies. Totally insane to us, but to those people perfectly normal.

Owning guns is perfectly normal in the US and even though the person using the gun is a criminal, a gun itself only has one use, shooting living beings & will thus only be used by criminals. To most people outside of the US this right is insane, yet, in the US a large majority agrees that it's perfectly sane.

I could go on for a while about the following subjects: Soft Drugs (the Netherlands), Abortion (Ireland & the US), Euthanasia (more & more European countries), etc...

Independent psychiatrists and independent psychologists have been arguing what is sane & what isn't for years and they still haven't reached a conclusion (& probably never will).

Since society of the group is slowly but surely making place for a society of the individual (something I don't like, but that's an entirely different discussion) & since it's society that decides what's sane & acceptable & what isn't, this discussion you've been having will lead nowhere. In the end it's the individual that decides what is sane & what isn't.

This thread is about whether it's sane or insane to do or watch such scenes & there simply is no yes or no answer.

thank you. :bowdown::bowdown: and on that note i think it's a good idea to end this debate as it will never end and it's fast becoming far too personal and off topic. but as Gordar so correctly pointed out that is a decision for each "individual" board member to make. this is my last post in this thread. have a good day. :2 cents: :hatsoff: :wave2:

 

[on]

I think it would be great to be able to check all new posts, without seeing this thread appear, it only exposes this video to people who might never have come across it otherwise.

Please ignore the irony of my statement!

 

[Gordar]

for example, brush off societal bans on incest

Another point we disagree on, as long as certain conditions are met. But I will not go into that any further, because the board rules don't allow it.

Anyway, apparently there is no societal ban on choke porn, otherwise it wouldn't be as common and as easily available as it currently is.

 

[HELLRAISER]

fuck it whatever floats her boat to each their own

 

[STDiva]

She isn't being choked. That shit is fake. Looks like she is just holding her breath and he has his hands around her neck. Besides, what is the big deal? Lots of girls like to be choked. Some of you are reacting like you just saw a guy get fucked in the ass by a horse. Relax.

Ya'll should drink more Hennessy.

 

[DreamSparrow]

...

Just because there exist different norms, it does not mean all norms are equal. Romans may have exulted in deadly, inhumane spectacles for the purposes of entertainment, but it's a sign of progress that they are no longer acceptable.

 

[No_Man]

Just because there exist different norms, it does not mean all norms are equal. Romans may have exulted in deadly, inhumane spectacles for the purposes of entertainment, but it's a sign of progress that they are no longer acceptable.

The ancient Romans also had legal gay marriage, but the fact that 40 states have banned it must be sign a progress too, huh?

 

[DreamSparrow]

The ancient Romans also had legal gay marriage, but the fact that 40 states have banned it must be sign a progress too, huh?

No, because certain things have regressed, while others have progressed. As far as gay marriage goes, things are generally improving, since more and more countries are accepting of it.

However, your very question suggests that you believe that one value can be superior to another, as opposed to the culturally and morally relativistic point of view that all values are equal... and that was the point I was trying to get across.

 

[No_Man]

No, because certain things have regressed, while others have progressed. As far as gay marriage goes, things are generally improving, since more and more countries are accepting of it.

However, your very question suggests that you believe that one value can be superior to another, as opposed to the culturally and morally relativistic point of view that all values are equal... and that was the point I was trying to get across.

How do you define whether or not its progress or regress, though? If you're advocating true moral relativism, then maybe banning gay marriage in the U.S. really is progress. Who's to say?

 

[Rookblackwell]

Though I'm unable to view the link, I do think I've seen clips from the video we're talking about here.
If it is what I think it is, I've gotta say its among the most disturbing things I've seen.
Is it the video where they are choking her neck with their hands? Cause that's just stupid and strange to watch and I couldn't watch past a few seconds.
Or is this a case of her almost choking to death by way of extreme deepthroating? She really knows how to take it past her gag reflex, so I wouldn't be shocked it its the ladder.
She's among my favs simply because of her throat fucking ability, but to see her just being choked bare handed is sad... Why would anyone like that? Nothing sexual about it either. just as bad as watching someone cut themselves (minus the blood) and calling that sexy...

 

[Rookblackwell]

She's gotta be dropped off of my favorites list. I can't stand to see her like this. Too disturbing and a HUGE turnoff.
Plus, IDK the truth behind if she's racist or not, but that's one thing I can't stand in porn is a racist bastard.

 

[CunningStunts]

She's gotta be dropped off of my favorites list. I can't stand to see her like this. Too disturbing and a HUGE turnoff.
Plus, IDK the truth behind if she's racist or not, but that's one thing I can't stand in porn is a racist bastard.

So you don't believe in people making their won decisions regarding their lives?

 

[Elwood70]

Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?

Owning guns is perfectly normal in the US and even though the person using the gun is a criminal, a gun itself only has one use, shooting living beings & will thus only be used by criminals. To most people outside of the US this right is insane, yet, in the US a large majority agrees that it's perfectly sane..

Not everyone using a gun in the US is a criminal.