There is so much self hatred in this thread its disgusting.
Fellow humans, the reason we have borders is because without them we aren't a country.
For the same reason you have doors on your houses.
Simple fact is that for years now the door has been left open for mainly mexicans to come and go as they please.
And they have, by the millions upon millions.
That is Illegal, right?
1- Consider the financial costs, education, medical, social services ( which many do collect), law enforcement, ect ect ect and all the costs it takes to process these things.
2- consider the fact that illegals pay no state or federal taxes.
3- in an environmental point of view, consider the strain on the environment caused by 100,000,000 million or so extra people.
4- consider the fact that when a school is overcrowded it is impossible to actually give the kids an education thats worth a crap.
thousands of towns and citys have had to build extra schools to handle the increase.
kids have to have classes in trailers.
And how do you teach john and jane mathematics when first you need to teach juan and juanita english?
It hurts the education system.
Simply they cost billions of legal citizens hard earned money.
But most of all they are illegal.
ILLEGAL.
So for years the gov made it impossible to deport or even check to see if they are legal.
imagine an illegal goes in to an office to begin to collect welfare, foodstamps, and all of the other free stuff and the worker can't even ask if they are in the country legally?
Man , mexicans must laugh their asses off about that one, stupid gringos.
Ok, so now many of you have a problem with law enforcement being able to identify who's who and perhaps enforce the law.
You basically blame your own people for the problem.
not the mexican government, not the mexican people, not the politicians who sat back and watched it get to this point, but your own country.
You call it racist.
That is more of that self hatred, guilt complex that they taught you in school showing through.
Maybe , just maybe if the mexicans themselves didn't abuse the situation in such a extreme way it wouldn't have got to this point.
So it doesn't bother you that 10's of millions come into your country without permission, drain the resources, drain the economy, drain the whole damn system and costs you money if you even work, meanwhile giving you a big middle finger and laughing at your countrys inability and unwillingness to stop it.
But, you do have a problem with a cop being able to say "hey, you got I.D.?
I think your priorities are very fucked up.
I suppose I must be a prostitute too since I've made the case it ought to be legalized. And I most certainly must have a personal stake in drugs being legal since I've consistently argued they should be legalized. And it's obvious I want AQ to kill Americans because I'm not asinine enough to claim water boarding isn't torture. Why can't my responses here be no different than my responses on ANY other topic I've ever discussed here? Based on some principle as opposed to necessarily have a personal stake in the matter? I know that's a foreign concept to most of you stand for nothing but politic groupies but there are times when someone can just make a point base on some principle and have the grounds to back it up.
