PirateKing
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Dey dook er jerrrrbs!!
Arizona Immigration Bill PASSES!!
- Thread starter Sparky Shortz
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Again, LEARN the facts about your rights and responsibilities. It's obvious to any dummy that cops routinely accept your license as de facto proof. That doesn't mean they have to stop at that as THE proof if they suspect otherwise.
Why waste time telling you about the facts when reading them for yourself is more painful to you. :tongue:
Continued at link.....
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html
Now disappear uh-gin as you commonly do upon getting your ass handed to you with the facts...:wave2:
"Did you know that only every 43 minutes, an unsuspecting American family is approached and then accosted by a stray Mexican?"
http://christwire.org/2010/05/help-the-police-catch-mexicans/
http://christwire.org/2010/05/help-the-police-catch-mexicans/
Ughhh....feel like I need a shower after clicking on that stupid site. Would have preferred to be lemonpartied instead.
You do understand that even if every immigrant was forced out of the country, it would have little effect, right (and vice versa)? The workers taking lower wages, overall, regulate that. They don't create anything more than a dent in the bumper. They really do an assload more than the common American, whether you believe that or not (or willingly not). They are the focal point in agriculture and do the grunt work nobody wants to do and do it for much less. But alas, everything is black and white and they are criminal scum just stealing from the government or whatever.You are batting a 1000; wrong and wrong...aren't you tired yet of posting drivel?
I hope some of the hundreds of thousands of unemployed bricklayers, painters, carpenters, roofers, heavy equipment operators, etc, find out what you say about illegals and take you outside to discuss your BS...:thumbsup:
You won't be missed...!:wave2:
Care to post any actual info to back up the lie that illegals bring in more than they take away? Even a HM post? A Huffington Post article? A La Raza pamphlet?
I do understand people's worry about this issue, after all, illegals immigrants are unwelcome everywhere...but it's the US we're talking about here, it's no ordinary country, and contrary to Pete Rose's belief, it's not really all black and white, we are all gonna see the shades of grey appearing more often. Arizona will be chaotic for a very long time.
Didn't blame Obama specifically...just said I believe it was planned...don't know who was paid off to do it
Funny thing is...you never really know when it is your turn to be stopped and harassed DO YOU???
Once again you said, "others may believe in the principles our constitution protects it's citizens with." The key word is citizens...they're NOT citizens...they're ILLEGALS...I'm not sure why your brain synapses are not hooking up and functioning properly...
^^See what I mean about Sanity?^^Didn't blame Obama specifically...just said I believe it was planned...don't know who was paid off to do it
HM must be a politician...thanks for all your insightful words...much appreciated...you would definitely be a good choice for CNN...enjoy your evening
Let me try this slo o o o o w e r...
How do you know who's a citizen or not without first stopping, detaining and investigating them against their right not to be in the first place under the permissions of this law?
I apologize for my previous explanations being over you head but can you now wrap your synapses around answering that basic, simple question?
Not worth an answer...we've already been over this, others have responded quite logically and the poll seems to be ahead in the "YES" department...
No, seriously, I'd like to know what compelled you to think that. I want complete honesty.HM must be a politician...thanks for all your insightful words...much appreciated...you would definitely be a good choice for CNN...enjoy your evening
Several quotes from citizens regarding the bill:
"I believe the Arizona immigration bill is the right thing to do. Persons will not be pulled over or confronted unless the persons have acted suspiciously or have been stopped for other unlawful reasons. All the persons need, as far as "papers," is a driver's license or government issued ID. If persons are driving a car, asking for a driver's license is not considered evasive."
"In the USA you cannot even cash a check without an ID. I don't know anyone who doesn't have one unless you are a criminal. Don't listen to the racist hype from Latinos. They only use it to try and shame citizens because they know they're wrong and have no other argument. Illegal is not a race!"
"The US is the only country that accommodates foreigners and adjusts our security so that outsiders can be happy. We sacrifice our own selves for the sake of public relations. I heard it put this way: what if the government announced that we had to all unlock our doors for the night because a homeless person might need to come in and rummage through our refrigerator? How much sense does that make? What exactly are we trying to prove by being so kind? Has our politeness in policies gotten us anything other than accolade?"
"Because of the severe immigration problems in Arizona, I think they've taken the right steps. Phoenix is the #2 kidnap capital of the world as well as enormous amounts of illegal drugs smuggled in. Why doesn't the media tell about this instead of worrying about civil rights?"
"I think the new law is exactly what is needed in the state of Arizona and in my opinion it should be adopted by every state in the union. Enough is enough. If you do not enter this country legally, We do not want you. I am tired of bending over backwards to be politically correct. My family, came to America through Ellis Island and they became citizens of the United States. They did not sneak across the border and have children, so they could be Anchored to this country. I say Congratulations to the State of Arizona."
Enough said...I'm done with this thread...cheers :thumbsup:
"I believe the Arizona immigration bill is the right thing to do. Persons will not be pulled over or confronted unless the persons have acted suspiciously or have been stopped for other unlawful reasons. All the persons need, as far as "papers," is a driver's license or government issued ID. If persons are driving a car, asking for a driver's license is not considered evasive."
"In the USA you cannot even cash a check without an ID. I don't know anyone who doesn't have one unless you are a criminal. Don't listen to the racist hype from Latinos. They only use it to try and shame citizens because they know they're wrong and have no other argument. Illegal is not a race!"
"The US is the only country that accommodates foreigners and adjusts our security so that outsiders can be happy. We sacrifice our own selves for the sake of public relations. I heard it put this way: what if the government announced that we had to all unlock our doors for the night because a homeless person might need to come in and rummage through our refrigerator? How much sense does that make? What exactly are we trying to prove by being so kind? Has our politeness in policies gotten us anything other than accolade?"
"Because of the severe immigration problems in Arizona, I think they've taken the right steps. Phoenix is the #2 kidnap capital of the world as well as enormous amounts of illegal drugs smuggled in. Why doesn't the media tell about this instead of worrying about civil rights?"
"I think the new law is exactly what is needed in the state of Arizona and in my opinion it should be adopted by every state in the union. Enough is enough. If you do not enter this country legally, We do not want you. I am tired of bending over backwards to be politically correct. My family, came to America through Ellis Island and they became citizens of the United States. They did not sneak across the border and have children, so they could be Anchored to this country. I say Congratulations to the State of Arizona."
Enough said...I'm done with this thread...cheers :thumbsup:
^^:Translation: The concept is over your head and you have no answer.
And no...you nor others have explained it either but for to respond simplistically with you don't mind submitting to it. Which doesn't answer for anyone else's rights except yours.
Enjoy your evening.:wave2:
1.) LE already has the right to initiate contact based on reasonable suspicion and probable cause (which are spelled out in the exceptions to warrants) in every US jurisdiction. The difference with AZ is they have created some nebulous probable cause standard (someone is here illegally
).2.) While LE routinely accepts a license or state ID as reasonable proof of residency...they don't have to as that is not per se proof. They accept it because they are typically investigating traffic infractions or other crimes that don't naturally call into question a person's legal status.
But thanks for providing us with scholarly ruminations of Cletus, Willey and all.:thumbsup:
Philbert
Banned
Oh, Lord...spare us the embarrassment...! You are on Planet Trafalmador and someone gave you a toxic banana...is that it?:eek:
Where do "truck drivers documents" fit into your frantic babble about just being snatched up and papers demanded? He's a commercial truck driver, not walking around without docs getting fantasy Ice Cream with some fantasy kids as Otrauma so stupidly alluded to in his fantasy situation he made up to scare all the Demotards...
From the simple little article ..."The agents needed to verify Abdon was in the country legally and it is not uncommon to ask for someone's birth certificate. She also said this has nothing to do with the proposed bill or racial profiling.
So...when do we all get these powerful facts that hands us our asses?:rofl:
You aren't doing too well recently...too many people used to your almost correct posts? Maybe it's time for you to try a change of Meds, some that won't turn your forebrain all sludgy...?
And try not to use off the wall examples like a commercial truck driver named Abdon ******** being detained for not having ID enough. He should just get a better job; like picking fruit in the Valley...no ID required!
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