Imagine if all heads of state were women, they'd be wars all the time because one leader thought another leader was after her husband or certain heads didn't like each other for no rational reason, how many poor men would die in wars because of all the backstabbing and talking behind each others backs
Are Women Taking Over as the Dominate Gender?
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vodkazvictim
Why save the world, when you can rule it?
My wife says I'm not allowed to pass judgement in this thread.
"The women in that other country over there are skinnier than us and have bigger boobs than us, plus they're all bitches! Invade them, immediately!"
this all may be true but even if men stay in positions of power they're still men and as such easy for women to manipulate...
Ahh, but is this the strength of women, or the weakness of man? Or both. As for "positions of power"... You've probably noticed that nearly all the men who hold these positions have a woman by their side, influencing them one way or another. My gut tells me that its usually for the better, considering that most male "leaders" who don't take a steady wife/girlfriend turn out to be dictators.
GodsEmbryo
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I agree basically with Rey C. and Harley, but I would like to make some side notes. Is the question "Are women taking over as the dominate gender?" actually the question to consider? In itself this question suggests and confirms there isn't a balance between genders at the moment. But it also suggests this non-equilibrium could or should exist. So for the sake of argument... Should it exist? Could it exist?
Man has been the dominate gender for so many ages and we all know what the consequences where for women. Some could argue that in the centuries past people perceived life in other ways, and that maybe women where content with this non-balanced world and way of life. Even if it meant they were given away for marriage, couldn't study, become a priest or politician. But let's not forget this view on life was plotted out by the ruling gender, men, and not a consensus reached between sexes. Even if a woman could be content with her life, she had no choice whatsoever on how she would live it. For that same reason it would be wrong to have it the other way round where women are the dominate gender deciding what life should be. And even a reason why I oppose extremism in feminism. Let's not make the same mistakes twice.
But could a balance be achieved? Let's start with education and jobs... Apart from the topic that sometimes women aren't equally payed for the same job (which I'm not going further into because it's ridiculous), it can also be noted that women and men still choose an education that is more or less to be considered gender-related. Women would go for nursery, teacher, fashion, etc. and men for engineering, mechanics, woodworker, etc. We do have a choice nowadays, so, why? Because it's in our genes? Or because we are from birth treated in a different gender-related way? It's both actually I think. As a kid I had my fair share of duties in the house but my parents would never ask my sister to put up a painting or me to prepare the food (although we had tasks we did both. And maybe my cooking sucks). Parents may reprimand a girl when she climbs in trees and "acts like a boy", and at school you might have tasks, games, courses... that will be separated between sexes (gymnastics for example) or will be labeled 'male' or 'female'. Last but not least you have the differences in our genes, so women might for example not likely go for jobs that are physical heavy because it is physical heavy. So it will be unlikely there will ever be equality in these choices we make and (cause and effect) equality in our daily life and/or relationships. This might be because in some jobs people work more in shifts, and other are day jobs. So although you might say that the tasks at home should be equally divided as part of this 'balance of equality', sometimes it can't be done.
Politics... There are people who say that management should be a representation of society and therefore some quota should be handled to achieve that, like a representative percentage of women versus men in the government. Or that the posts in the management of a company, a university or whatever should be divided according to this percentages. Although this might look equality, does this mean quality? This could mean that when you have 6 candidates for a post you would ignore the (for example) 5 first ones, who happens to be male, and pick choice number 6, the female, because you need to achieve the quota. Even if it means there were 5 better candidates for the job. Is this equality? But would it really matter to have a government or management that (for example) only existed out of women, if they were simply the best for the job?
Religion... I put it in here just to be 'complete' since there is no reason whatsoever for not having equality between man and women when it comes to religion, but apparently there is... I don't think I need elaborate much on this subject to point out it always has been and still is a male dominated part of our life. I'm not only talking about religion and believes itself here, but the role of men and women as a representative of their believe as well. How many female cardinals are there in Christianity and how many female popes have their been? How many women have been victim of a belief where they were stoned to death because of adultery, or physical mutilated because they are supposed to be virgin or are not supposed to enjoy sex? How many women are still expected to throw themselves on the fire when burning their deceased husband, or are woman number so-and-so in a harem, or even forced into marriage because of belief or society allowing it? An example of the latter is a raped girl who has to marry her rapist to avoid being cast out and live in shame, or being stoned to death if she doesn't because she 'provoked' it and is therefore guilty. Achieving equality in religion would mean a world revolution and is not likely to be achieved in just some decades, maybe even centuries. Not only because we have to point fingers to physical mutilation as 'unequal' (as we do), but we have to point fingers to religion itself as well (as we do not).
Just some thoughts...
Man has been the dominate gender for so many ages and we all know what the consequences where for women. Some could argue that in the centuries past people perceived life in other ways, and that maybe women where content with this non-balanced world and way of life. Even if it meant they were given away for marriage, couldn't study, become a priest or politician. But let's not forget this view on life was plotted out by the ruling gender, men, and not a consensus reached between sexes. Even if a woman could be content with her life, she had no choice whatsoever on how she would live it. For that same reason it would be wrong to have it the other way round where women are the dominate gender deciding what life should be. And even a reason why I oppose extremism in feminism. Let's not make the same mistakes twice.
But could a balance be achieved? Let's start with education and jobs... Apart from the topic that sometimes women aren't equally payed for the same job (which I'm not going further into because it's ridiculous), it can also be noted that women and men still choose an education that is more or less to be considered gender-related. Women would go for nursery, teacher, fashion, etc. and men for engineering, mechanics, woodworker, etc. We do have a choice nowadays, so, why? Because it's in our genes? Or because we are from birth treated in a different gender-related way? It's both actually I think. As a kid I had my fair share of duties in the house but my parents would never ask my sister to put up a painting or me to prepare the food (although we had tasks we did both. And maybe my cooking sucks). Parents may reprimand a girl when she climbs in trees and "acts like a boy", and at school you might have tasks, games, courses... that will be separated between sexes (gymnastics for example) or will be labeled 'male' or 'female'. Last but not least you have the differences in our genes, so women might for example not likely go for jobs that are physical heavy because it is physical heavy. So it will be unlikely there will ever be equality in these choices we make and (cause and effect) equality in our daily life and/or relationships. This might be because in some jobs people work more in shifts, and other are day jobs. So although you might say that the tasks at home should be equally divided as part of this 'balance of equality', sometimes it can't be done.
Politics... There are people who say that management should be a representation of society and therefore some quota should be handled to achieve that, like a representative percentage of women versus men in the government. Or that the posts in the management of a company, a university or whatever should be divided according to this percentages. Although this might look equality, does this mean quality? This could mean that when you have 6 candidates for a post you would ignore the (for example) 5 first ones, who happens to be male, and pick choice number 6, the female, because you need to achieve the quota. Even if it means there were 5 better candidates for the job. Is this equality? But would it really matter to have a government or management that (for example) only existed out of women, if they were simply the best for the job?
Religion... I put it in here just to be 'complete' since there is no reason whatsoever for not having equality between man and women when it comes to religion, but apparently there is... I don't think I need elaborate much on this subject to point out it always has been and still is a male dominated part of our life. I'm not only talking about religion and believes itself here, but the role of men and women as a representative of their believe as well. How many female cardinals are there in Christianity and how many female popes have their been? How many women have been victim of a belief where they were stoned to death because of adultery, or physical mutilated because they are supposed to be virgin or are not supposed to enjoy sex? How many women are still expected to throw themselves on the fire when burning their deceased husband, or are woman number so-and-so in a harem, or even forced into marriage because of belief or society allowing it? An example of the latter is a raped girl who has to marry her rapist to avoid being cast out and live in shame, or being stoned to death if she doesn't because she 'provoked' it and is therefore guilty. Achieving equality in religion would mean a world revolution and is not likely to be achieved in just some decades, maybe even centuries. Not only because we have to point fingers to physical mutilation as 'unequal' (as we do), but we have to point fingers to religion itself as well (as we do not).
Just some thoughts...
I believe we are probably in a transition phase, much like another poster here already stated. Not sure what the future will look like if all the powerful roles were held by women. Would it be better or worse is what most people are probably wondering. Hopefully it is either better or stays about the same. I shutter to think what life would be like if it were indeed worse than where we are now. I mean, how much would it suck to be sent to the gas chamber because you forgot your wife's B-Day or got her the same gift for Valentine's Day that you got her last year?
Now this is pretty smart. I can't really see women being manipulated by men as easily as men are manipulated by women. Probably even less so when the woman is the one calling the shots.
This is even smarter. You sir have earned some rep.
Now this is pretty smart. I can't really see women being manipulated by men as easily as men are manipulated by women. Probably even less so when the woman is the one calling the shots.
Well they do have half of the money and all the vagina, so in theory they SHOULD...
But one thing holds the female gender back from their complete domination of the world: women in the workplace tend to really fuck each other over, much more then even men do.
This is even smarter. You sir have earned some rep.
In a way, but men are the ones helping them there. Women have benefited from more equality, but in addition, a very healthy dose of affirmative action. Our society has put women on a pedestal and become focused on women and what women want. They have the better side of practically every law and custom. And, crucially, media has come to greatly favor women and portray them in a much better light than men. Media is crucial because it influences people a great deal. It's probably why today you get so many own-gender-deprecating men ready and willing to hand everything over to women.
Women are being treated like they're incapable or a minority when they aren't. It's like instituting a conservation program for deer.
Women are being treated like they're incapable or a minority when they aren't. It's like instituting a conservation program for deer.
GodsEmbryo
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But then again...
9 times out of 10 it seems if a man thinks he is the one manipulating the woman he's just being played that much harder lol...and that was a good point by cunningstunts, women don't work with other women nearly as well as men work with other men...men just do their part and get shit done, women tend to spend as much time trying to undermine their co-workers work for a variety of reasons as they do just doing their part...of course these are generalized statements as there are exceptions to everything
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bobjustbob
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Credit to be given to where I heard this. I wish that I could remember.
Men have, and will always make all of the large decisions. From the beginning of time this was the case. Where to find the cave. How to defend it. Organization of cave communities. Decisions of war. Building empires. Expanding the world. World hunger. Global warming. Economic stability. War. All of these things are major decisions that are made by men and will continue to do so. Women make the rest of every other decisions.
What to eat for dinner. What house to buy. Do we need to go to sleep right now. Are we going out with our friends or going to her friend's dinner party. Should I wear this shirt.
Bobjustbob.
Men have, and will always make all of the large decisions. From the beginning of time this was the case. Where to find the cave. How to defend it. Organization of cave communities. Decisions of war. Building empires. Expanding the world. World hunger. Global warming. Economic stability. War. All of these things are major decisions that are made by men and will continue to do so. Women make the rest of every other decisions.
What to eat for dinner. What house to buy. Do we need to go to sleep right now. Are we going out with our friends or going to her friend's dinner party. Should I wear this shirt.
Bobjustbob.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
But then again...
sad but true
I think the bible holds true and will always hold true when it come to gender roles. I think each gender is better suited than the other at certain trades. I think the universe was setup that way and it wont be changing and no need to fight it.
In my opinion men are physically stronger, more aggressive and better suited at certain task. Leadership (not saying women can't lead) manual labor, and a few other position I think is best for men. Not saying women can't do them just as good but mainly men.
Women in my opinion are more caring, pay more attention to details and are great at supporting roles/ In my family we all worked as a team. my dad made good money but he wasn't the best with fiances. My mother told him where it went and where it needed to go. She also made sure everything went smoothly, including putting up for bad days. So from my experience most women are better secretaries, nurses, teachers, parents, directors, social workers, research and development. Also the most import field ( Strippers) jk.
In my opinion things work best this way. My sister on the other hand now makes more than her husband who is injured so the switched roles. He can not keep up with the day to day because he doesn't pay enough attention. things ran a little smoother when he made the money and she stayed home. just my opinion think things shoudl stay the same, if it ever went completely opposite things woudl be totally out of whack.
In my opinion men are physically stronger, more aggressive and better suited at certain task. Leadership (not saying women can't lead) manual labor, and a few other position I think is best for men. Not saying women can't do them just as good but mainly men.
Women in my opinion are more caring, pay more attention to details and are great at supporting roles/ In my family we all worked as a team. my dad made good money but he wasn't the best with fiances. My mother told him where it went and where it needed to go. She also made sure everything went smoothly, including putting up for bad days. So from my experience most women are better secretaries, nurses, teachers, parents, directors, social workers, research and development. Also the most import field ( Strippers) jk.
In my opinion things work best this way. My sister on the other hand now makes more than her husband who is injured so the switched roles. He can not keep up with the day to day because he doesn't pay enough attention. things ran a little smoother when he made the money and she stayed home. just my opinion think things shoudl stay the same, if it ever went completely opposite things woudl be totally out of whack.
I believe the gap between males and females will close up because women have so much freedom than they did back in the old days. Women are also getting more skilled in sports such as basketball, as depending on height, they can dunk a basketball such as Baylor's Brittney Griner and LA Sparks and Tennessee Vols player Candace Parker is very athletic. Women will take over because there are more women than men in the United States as well. Plus society has changed on the pereception of women as well, and society is treating women more than just a sex symbol. the bottom line is women will become stronger in the related areas a male is as time goes on, it might not be in our lifetime but i believe the gap will narrow as time goes by.
