Another Islam honor killing towards a family member

No fucking wonder we're still in the middle east. It seems compassion and understanding for your sworn enemies is a new MOS. Do you get a little pink ribbon for that?:thefinger

Well considering that we are trying to win their hearts and minds...yes it is the new SOP.
 

Facetious

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It's important to note that honour killings are a result of cultural teachings and not religious ones, not to take away how barbaric they actually are. The very title of this thread is misleading as the people that carry out these 'honour' killings often happen to be muslims (the most backwards countries are generally muslim), but they don't commit these crimes because of Islam or its teachings, if that makes any sense. In backwards parts of India you'll see honour killings involving Sikhs and Hindus as well as Muslims, this will be bacause it is CULTURALLY encouraged or some local tribal and not religious authority has allowed it. If you read the article at no point does it mention that this barbaric act was committed because of Islamic teachings, therefore it was unwise of the OP through the title of the thread to imply Islam was somehow responsible, this isn't FOX news or the Daily Mail after all. RIP to the young lady :2 cents:

Cultural or religious aside, judging from some of you previous postings, you seem to believe that these ''backwards'' types of people could become compatible as fellow citizens in the context of a modern western oriented society, do you not?
Do we then amend our laws in order to accommodate these :uhem: ''backwards'' people? Pretty dicey, don't you think?
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
Well considering that we are trying to win their hearts and minds...yes it is the new SOP.

You got a better chance of taming an alligator. Man the military has really changed. Keep this shit up and we'll lose our military superpower status like we lost our economic superpower status.
 
Cultural or religious aside, judging from some of you previous postings, you seem to believe that these ''backwards'' types of people could become compatible as fellow citizens in the context of a modern western oriented society, do you not?
Do we then amend our laws in order to accommodate these :uhem: ''backwards'' people? Pretty dicey, don't you think?

Maybe the vast majority of the ones who are inclined to practice this type of thing aren't the ones looking to come to the west to immerse themselves in our freedoms, diversity of religion, diversity of ideals or reality tv.:dunno:
 

Facetious

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Maybe the vast majority of the ones who are inclined to practice this type of thing aren't the ones looking to come to the west to immerse themselves in our freedoms, diversity of religion, diversity of ideals or reality tv.:dunno:
Keyword: "maybe"
Would 5, 10 or 25% be OK?

Why is our government attracted to accepting immigrants from the 'backwards' 3rd world anyway? . . . Oh, never mind, they have vested political interests in filling America with individuals who would most likely tend to become dependent on the welfare state and least likely to assimilate and least likely to learn the english language and and and . . .:facepalm:


Divide . . -> . . CONQUER! :sleep:
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
You got a better chance of taming an alligator. Man the military has really changed. Keep this shit up and we'll lose our military superpower status like we lost our economic superpower status.

You've already lost military superpower status.
 
The only non-Arab countries that honor killings have happened in are France, UK, Germany, Pakistan and India. 4 out of 5 would hardly be considered "muslim" countries.

You would think so, but there muslims pouring into these countries like you wouldn't believe. France has been practically overrun by them, and England isn't far behind. I haven't heard about Germany, so I won't say about how it's going there. India may be considered a "Hindu" country, but there are plenty of muslims there as well.
 
Yes, they are a simple people, they can't be as intelligent as "us" because they are too genetically different from us.
*cough*astrologymedicinechemistry*cough*
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Yeah centuries ago. What have they contributed to society recently besides rampant intolerance, murder, and the celebration of death.


Btw, the Ancient Greeks made many contributions to humankind long before any muslim.


Muslims need to come to grips with the crimes against non muslims committed by their own in the name of their allah.

One way or another they will as they don't have a choice.
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
You would think so, but there muslims pouring into these countries like you wouldn't believe. France has been practically overrun by them, and England isn't far behind. I haven't heard about Germany, so I won't say about how it's going there. India may be considered a "Hindu" country, but there are plenty of muslims there as well.

Yes, that's right, we Europeans have been overrun by Moslems.
I was forced to blow my local Immam just yesterday. I didn't like it, but they say infidels must serve.
No really, Islam is pro-homo.
You have no idea what you're talking about claiming that European countries are overrun by Islam; in fact Moslems suffer in these countries, hence why we get extremists.
Have you ever even been to France? How can you say it's overrun by them? Perhaps some evidence other than FUX news? Yes France has a large Islamic population... And I must concede, that yes, the Moslems do run France through that most famous of Moslems Sarkozi (that's a traditional Islamic name btw).
*rolls eyes* Learn before you state.
 
Keyword: "maybe"
Would 5, 10 or 25% be OK?

Why is our government attracted to accepting immigrants from the 'backwards' 3rd world anyway? . . . Oh, never mind, they have vested political interests in filling America with individuals who would most likely tend to become dependent on the welfare state and least likely to assimilate and least likely to learn the english language and and and . . .:facepalm:


Divide . . -> . . CONQUER! :sleep:

"Maybe" as in one possible, reasonable rebuttal to your supposition.

Most who come and have come to the US have done so out of a desire to embrace the opportunities the US offers. Those who are happy with their culture, differences and homeland usually stay where they're at.
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
Yeah centuries ago. What have they contributed to society recently besides rampant intolerance, murder, and the celebration of death.


Btw, the Ancient Greeks made many contributions to humankind long before any muslim.


Muslims need to come to grips with the crimes against non muslims committed by their own in the name of their allah.

One way or another they will as they don't have a choice.

I have absolutely no idea why you feel the need to mention the Greeks here. Do you perhaps feel I'm somehow unaware of their achievements? You do realise I speak Greek right? So please, feel free to lecture me further.
Moslems know that they have some crazies who commit crimes against non-moslems. Your mistake is to take all Moslems as a homogenous whole and assume that they're all Al-quaeda types.
If that was true don't you suppose that when the Turks were marauding near Vienna they would have simply taken Europe? (That reminds me, kudos to whoever it was invaded the poles after they sent their armies to defend christendom; you get bastard points)
How do you account for the progressive Caliphs that fostered debate between Jewish, Christian and Moslem scholars in their courts?

I think you need to look past religion. It's entirely possible if things continue in the current trend that those who achieve best will be those who abandon all alleigancies (religion, nation, race, sex) in order to further themselves. I think you attach too much importance to religion; just like the Jihadis.
 
I have absolutely no idea why you feel the need to mention the Greeks here. Do you perhaps feel I'm somehow unaware of their achievements? You do realise I speak Greek right? So please, feel free to lecture me further.
Moslems know that they have some crazies who commit crimes against non-moslems. Your mistake is to take all Moslems as a homogenous whole and assume that they're all Al-quaeda types.
If that was true don't you suppose that when the Turks were marauding near Vienna they would have simply taken Europe? (That reminds me, kudos to whoever it was invaded the poles after they sent their armies to defend christendom; you get bastard points)
How do you account for the progressive Caliphs that fostered debate between Jewish, Christian and Moslem scholars in their courts?

I think you need to look past religion. It's entirely possible if things continue in the current trend that those who achieve best will be those who abandon all alleigancies (religion, nation, race, sex) in order to further themselves. I think you attach too much importance to religion; just like the Jihadis.

I agree - or we need to look past arbitrarily grouping people altogether. Individuals are responsible for their own actions - why should people who do not support this variety of evil, immoral, criminality be tarred with the same brush as these sickos?

A lot of the Americans on this board are at least nominally fans of Ron Paul. Well, they might do well to ponder the following words, and consider if the same could be said of any large identity group, and not only race:

"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. "

And on a related note, piggybacking on the achievements of other people is one of the stupidest things human beings have ever conceived of. And just as illogical as dumping the baggage of other people on those not responsible for it. If you're not Aristotle or Plato, you have no right to swell up with pride. If you're not a heartless, daughter-murdering asshole, you have no reason to cringe with shame.
 
I have absolutely no idea why you feel the need to mention the Greeks here. Do you perhaps feel I'm somehow unaware of their achievements? You do realise I speak Greek right? So please, feel free to lecture me further.
Moslems know that they have some crazies who commit crimes against non-moslems. Your mistake is to take all Moslems as a homogenous whole and assume that they're all Al-quaeda types.
If that was true don't you suppose that when the Turks were marauding near Vienna they would have simply taken Europe? (That reminds me, kudos to whoever it was invaded the poles after they sent their armies to defend christendom; you get bastard points)
How do you account for the progressive Caliphs that fostered debate between Jewish, Christian and Moslem scholars in their courts?

I think you need to look past religion. It's entirely possible if things continue in the current trend that those who achieve best will be those who abandon all alleigancies (religion, nation, race, sex) in order to further themselves. I think you attach too much importance to religion; just like the Jihadis.




Ask me if I give a rats ass if you speak Greek.:facepalm:

"Some crazies". Well let's say 1% of 1 billion are loony toons. That's 10 million. Now say there's .01% of 10 million willing to actually go out and murder non muslims. That's 10,000 CooCoos.

On 9/11 it took 19 to create havoc and murder nearly 3,000 innocent people.
 
Ask me if I give a rats ass if you speak Greek.:facepalm:

"Some crazies". Well let's say 1% of 1 billion are loony toons. That's 10 million. Now say there's .01% of 10 million willing to actually go out and murder non muslims. That's 10,000 CooCoos.

On 9/11 it took 19 to create havoc and murder nearly 3,000 innocent people.

:cool:Who cares what the cause-de jour is??? By your math and leap...It only took 1 Timothy McVeigh willing to go out and murder hundreds of innocent people at one time....so let's multiply the prospects of 19 McVeighs.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

And this "CooCoo" was not only within our borders but once in our military.
 
:cool:Who cares what the cause-de jour is??? By your math and leap...It only took 1 Timothy McVeigh willing to go out and murder hundreds of innocent people at one time....so let's multiply the prospects of 19 McVeighs.:rolleyes::rolleyes:




........and one McVeigh attack vs. how many dozens of attacks carried out by jihadists killing for their allah? Come on not even close Mega.

That 10,000 is most likely a paltry number compared to the actual number of zanies willing to murder non muslims before and after 9/11.
 
........and one McVeigh attack vs. how many dozens of attacks carried out by jihadists killing for their allah? Come on not even close Mega.

That 10,000 is most likely a paltry number compared to the actual number of zanies willing to murder non muslims before and after 9/11.

By comparison we don't know how many "zanies willing" to carry out similar attacks to that carried out by McVeigh there were/are....what we do know is there were ALLOT of sympathizers to his cause. In a 1 to 1 comparison when you talk about 9/11 to OK City...thankfully many of the usurpers and malcontents of McVeigh's ilk have been interdicted before they could attack.

But here's one reasonably close to your cause...how many Buford Furrows did it take to try and slaughter a preschool full of kids??

Again, these bastards are home grown extremists who pose a far greater danger to the average American the 100K foreign Muslims.
 
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