Americans should not be allowed to own guns.

[Boothbabe]

The highest murder rate is in South Africa and Central America with Colombia having the honor of the highest murder rate. North America is relatively low on the list. Take a look.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate

I stand corrected, I thought the US has the highest murder rate. However, it doesn't diminish the connection between the number of guns in legal circulation and the number of murders commited in either the US or those other countries.

Is it possible to legally purchase a gun in the other countries you mentioned?

 

[Boothbabe]

People who say Guns increase crime are so wrong

Yet the number of murders commited every year in the US and other countries tells a different story.

 

[chrisuncleahmad]

If someone or something tries to attack you, the last thing you want to be is defenseless.

 

[Afficial_Nastee]

Yet the number of murders commited every year in the US and other countries tells a different story.

Maybe many of those murders wouldn't have been commited if the victim had a gun to retaliate....

Face it , you CAN'T take guns away , we need guns....

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

There will always be criminals and there will always be victims. Why would anyone voluntarily become a victim is beyond me.
Know your surroundings.
Secure your belongings.
Never go into a dark parking lot or garage alone. Most security personnel will gladly escort someone to their vehicle upon request.
If you have a can of pepper spray or a taser, know how to use it. Most police agencies will offer instruction on the proper use.
If you own a handgun and a CCW practice drawing and firing at your local range. Almost every range has a Safety Officer or instructor on staff and for a minimal fee will offer instruction.

Most people who perpetrate violent crimes are inherently cowards and someone who shows a willingness to defend themselves will almost always cause them to rethink their plans.

Owning and using a pistol responsibly does keep the general populace much safer than many people realize. It is an effective deterrence and ownership should be encouraged. (Wow I'm closing in on 2000 posts)

 

[georges]

The funny thing is that Canada also has a long tradition of hunting and owning guns with iirc 6-7 million guns in circulation yet the crime rate in Canada is only a fraction of that in the US. That should tell everyone something about American society.

That is a blatant lie and please check your facts before saying anything wrong like that.
Here are the proofs:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/24/150547.shtml
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/03/04/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-canada-murder-rate/
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/23/detroit-north/

 

[georges]

Yet the number of murders commited every year in the US and other countries tells a different story.

According to sources sharing the same views than michael moore and/or to leftists socialist and anti firearms countries, yes. But the reality is completely different.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

I think someone may need to visit this thread after Georges' great vengeance and furious anger came out. http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=310879&highlight=butthurt Well played, sir. Well played.

 

[Boobinator]

I agree that having a gun could be soothing at times, when walking home in the dark or when some random dick tries to start a fight.

But liberal gun laws also mean that the other guy, the one who is messing with me, can acquire a gun as well. And if the choice is between both of us having guns (me being the one not wanting to shoot in the first place) and neither, the latter is what I prefer. Thus far, I haven't come across a single moment in my life where I would've felt safer knowing there were guns around.

When it all boils down to it, there are probably a lot of people interested in weapons out there, and they present any argument they can to defend liberal gun laws. Most evidence though points to a correlation between number of weapons circulating (legal or illegal) and an escalation in violence and gun-related accidents.

 

[Boothbabe]

That is a blatant lie and please check your facts before saying anything wrong like that.

It wasn't my intention to lie and I'm really suprised about the crime rate in Canada. Canada is always depicted as a nation with a low crime rate where you can even leave your front door open when your away. It's sad in a way because it would be nice if it were true.

According to sources sharing the same views than michael moore and/or to leftists socialist and anti firearms countries, yes. But the reality is completely different.

The reality isn't that different. When there are many guns in circulation be it legal or illegal criminals have more opportunities to get a hold of a gun.

The bottomline is that you as a person on the right side of the fence think that everything can be resolved by using force (and from what I've read you want to resolve everything by using force). I'm on the left side of the fence and think that using force isn't the answer because it doesn't deal with the underlying causes. We will never agree because you think I'm a bleeding heart and I think you're a fear mongorer.

 

[Hot Mega]

Can someone please explain to me why Americans feel it is a God-given right for them to own a lethal weapon? Because it makes no sense to me. Permitting any old Tom, Dick and Harry to own a device that could easily inflict deadly bodily harm on another person is not logical. And don't compare gun ownership to knife ownership. Guns are a lot more dangerous. Plus they are designed specifically to serve as weapons.

Pssst...we don't feel "it's a God-given right". It's a constitutional one.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Wait a minute, Boothbabe. I don't know about Denmark but don't a few countries in Europe require homeowners to own handguns?

Switzerland passes out machine guns to help defend their country. And about %14 of their population owns handguns as well.http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-switzerland.htm


And here's a nice essay stating why gun ownership is not the reason for America's murder rate.http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-gunownership.htm


The first thing a dictator does when consolidating power is to disarm the populace. And too many Americans will not stand for their rights to be swept away like that.

 

[BlueBalls]

Oh god, you opened a "Can O' Worms" here didnt ya!

:crash:

All the Europeans and other countries who citizens are unable to purchase guns always complain and bitch about us Americans having guns, cuz I think you are envious and jealous? of us American who are allowed to purchase our guns.

Errm ..... no. :hatsoff: Keep your guns, I dont care, but do I want people in my country free reign over however many guns there are out there to purchase, no thanks. I like it how it is.

 

[mrtrebus]

The difference with other countries that allow gun ownership is simple. . .these other countries aren't America!
American's simply cannot be trusted with guns, the evidence is overwhelming.

The can of worms is now officially open! :thumbsup:

 

[Hot Mega]

The difference with other countries that allow gun ownership is simple. . .these other countries aren't America!
American's simply cannot be trusted with guns, the evidence is overwhelming.

The can of worms is now officially open! :thumbsup:

Why can't Americans be "trusted with guns"?? Because we have criminals??

In that case, the problem is criminals and crime, not the "gun". Everyplace has criminals and crime.

 

[Boobinator]

Why can't Americans be "trusted with guns"?? Because we have criminals??

In that case, the problem is criminals and crime, not the "gun". Everyplace has criminals and crime.

Not China

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Yeah they don't have anything like the Triad or the Golden Triangle over there. Use your head!

 

[Hot Mega]

Not China

The country which ranks second to the US in total prison population is China.:2 cents:

Last I checked, prisons housed criminals for committing crimes.:dunno:

 

[busenbust]

It's our God-given right!!!

 

[Boobinator]

The country which ranks second to the US in total prison population is China.:2 cents:

Last I checked, prisons housed criminals for committing crimes.:dunno:

My sarcasm seems to have failed :crying: