Age Racism

[Harley Spencer]

Something to consider is that while many of the older folks have more experiences, their experiences are limited to only what they've experienced, which were many years ago. Younger generations have experienced different things, new things, things the older generations have not.

For example, I've done porn and currently do adult solo work. How many older folks have done that? Not many. So they are absolutely not more knowledgable about sexual relations than I am. In that case, you should take my opinion about sex over someone who is simply older than me.

Another example is drugs. If someone younger is more experienced with drugs, has either done them, does them now, used to be addicted to them, used to be forced to take them, used to deal them, etc. and an older person has not, who is more knowledgable about it? Obviously the younger person. I'm not saying that older folks haven't done drugs, because many of them certainly have, but if you're looking at a situation of a younger person who has and an older person who has not, you should value the younger person's views more highly.

There's also the opposite end of the spectrum. Maybe... an old war veteran vs a young fellow who has not experienced that. Who is more knowledgable about war? Obviously the older person.

What about racism? Back in the day, folks were still holding onto discrimination about blacks for different reasons, and many of them still hold onto those beliefs today, whereas now, times have changed and most young people are not racist, at least not in the way their grandparents are. So whose opinion should be valued more? In this case, neither really, because they are two completely different opinions on the same subject, different due to growing up in different times, different ways of society.

You absolutely can not judge a person's intellectual judgement, intelligence, or opinions based on their age. That's being stupid.

 

[assari]

If age was the same thing as wisdom, why do so many older people make stupid decisions? Why would Jyrki Katainen give money to Pekka Himamen without inviting other bids? Why was Ilkka Kanerva convicted of corruption? Surely these are examples of their wisdom that I'm just not meant to understand because I'm young?

You better listen to me, baby face.

Those guys are hardline conservatives who knows what is right and what is wrong, but the power has blinded them and they make now mistakes which they will later regret.

So that's not the best example.

Never use the Bible to justify anything. EVER.

My son, as Will said those quotes are without context so they do not meaning anything.

You absolutely can not judge a person's intellectual judgement, intelligence, or opinions based on their age. That's being stupid.

Dear sister, I do not want to belittle your experience, but you are very young and you are just starting your career and you do not know what all is yet to come.

So it is maybe better that we retur to this issue in ten years.

Then you will know a lot more.

 

[Elwood70]

Congratulations...you got three pages worth of replies (and counting), just by putting "racism" in the thread title.

 

[assari]

Congratulations...you got three pages worth of replies (and counting), just by putting "racism" in the thread title.

"Thanks, I think that it is due to the fact that the negative things interest people more than positive "

(assari)

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

My son, as Will said those quotes are without context so they do not meaning anything.

You're more right than you think. Nothing quoted from the Bible ever means anything.

Although by your use of "my son" I assume this means you are God. In which case, we all learned something today, and I'm definitely going to Hell.

:Flame::Flame::Flame::Flame::Flame::Flame:

 

[Jagger69]

....by your use of "my son" I assume this means you are God.

No. It means he is a self-righteous and condescending bigot.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

Well, it was one of the two. Or thinking 38 made him old enough to have sired a 30 year old son. Now that would be a miracle.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

You absolutely can not judge a person's intellectual judgement, intelligence, or opinions based on their age. That's being stupid.

Exactly this. Plenty of people just get older and never bother to learn or grow as human beings. Life experience doesn't accumulate if you never take the opportunity to experience life. I alluded to as much here...

Not always. Not all experiences are equal. I know some people younger than myself who have more fundamental life experience, and many people much older who have fundamentally less.

By the way, assari...

My son, as Will said those quotes are without context so they do not meaning anything.

.... agreeing with Will is a great way to prove both your stupidity and naivety.

Dear sister, I do not want to belittle your experience...

Yes you do, because obvious troll is obvious.

So it is maybe better that we retur to this issue in ten years.

Then you will know a lot more.

She already knows a lot more than you. Sadly in ten years you'll still be an idiot.

 

[ApolloBalboa]

You better listen to me, baby face.

Those guys are hardline conservatives who knows what is right and what is wrong, but the power has blinded them and they make now mistakes which they will later regret.

So that's not the best example.

No, they're a perfect example. You made the case that with age comes wisdom, so therefore older people are smarter than younger people. I listed two people of your age group or older that obviously knew what they were doing was wrong but didn't care. Part of having wisdom is knowing how and when to use it, and neither of these two displayed any. Don't blame the power, blame the person wielding it.

Dear sister, I do not want to belittle your experience, but you are very young and you are just starting your career and you do not know what all is yet to come.

So it is maybe better that we retur to this issue in ten years.

Then you will know a lot more.

You're belittling her just as much as you were me, and that happens to be a lot. Saying that she doesn't know a lot now, even though she might in fact know as much or even more than you, just because she happens to be younger is age discrimination. If age was the same thing as wisdom, based on your thoughts and opinions, I'd put your age around 5.

 

[Harley Spencer]

Yes you do, because obvious troll is obvious.



She already knows a lot more than you. Sadly in ten years you'll still be an idiot.

:thumbsup:

In 10 years, assari will still be exactly the same as he is today- judgmental, discriminating, and... well, what Happy said

 

[bobjustbob]

Dear sister, I do not want to belittle your experience, but you are very young and you are just starting your career and you do not know what all is yet to come.

So it is maybe better that we retur to this issue in ten years.

Then you will know a lot more.

Now there you go showing how an older person (you) lose credibility on this subject. The younger person (Harley) has many life experiences that she has discussed in detail on these boards that qualifies her to give well thought out opinions. At 22 she has gone through lots of what life can hand out and has had to make decisions before her age should be presented with. All you see is the makeup and costumes assari and thus you form your opinion that she needs 10 years to be on your level. She has the drive, determination, and savvy of many seasoned business people. She also uses it to plan for her personal life. Try giving some thought to what you are going to say before saying it.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Now there you go showing how an older person (you) lose credibility on this subject. The younger person (Harley) has many life experiences that she has discussed in detail on these boards that qualifies her to give well thought out opinions. At 22 she has gone through lots of what life can hand out and has had to make decisions before her age should be presented with. All you see is the makeup and costumes assari and thus you form your opinion that she needs 10 years to be on your level. She has the drive, determination, and savvy of many seasoned business people. She also uses it to plan for her personal life. Try giving some thought to what you are going to say before saying it.

Indeed. Harley has been through a lot, and has a lot to offer, and has proved this on many occasions with interesting, well thought out, thought provoking contributions to the board.

Meanwhile assari is... assari. Unfortunately. And had offered... spam? Trolling? Inconsistently broken English?

 

[assari]

Try giving some thought to what you are going to say before saying it.

I thought before I wrote that and I do not change my opinion.

But if Harley wants only flattering feedback then it is a different story.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

I thought before I wrote that and I do not change my opinion.

If a thought entered your head it would commit suicide over the incredible loneliness it would obviously feel. :suicide:

But if Harley wants only flattering feedback then it is a different story.

Ain't flattery if it's true. She's proved herself. So have you, but not in so flattering a way...

 

[D-rock]

Never use the Bible to justify anything. EVER.

The Bible says we aren't allowed to shave.
(Leviticus 19:27)
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."

The Bible says slavery is ok.
(Leviticus 25:44-45)
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property."

... and selling your daughter is fine.
(Exodus 21:7)
"If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do."

The Bible says you can't talk to girls on their period.
(Leviticus 15:19-24)
"And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean."



So.... yeah. Fuck the Bible.

I don't usually side will Will, but..

To be fair to Christianity your completely taking all those out of context and reading them in a vacuum. It's as bad as the religious people that use select quotations to justify idiotic things. The non-slavery stuff you mentioned might seem somewhat silly on it's surface, but they were ceremonial things the ancient Israelites were required to do differentiate themselves from groups around them, who where quite despicable people, and used a lot of those banned things as a part of evil cult practices. It wasn't just capricious things spouted about. In any case as far as I know most Christian groups believe them to be no longer mandatory with the new covenant after Christ.

The whole "slavery" thing that people always bring up is even worse. At best it was only slavery in the very technical sense. When people think of the word they usually think of something like chattel slavery practiced in the US before it's Civil War. In reality the slaves back then were more willing bondservants who intentionally linked themselves to somebody else so they could be taken care of. Most of the time it gets left out that they way ancient societies were structured back then if they didn't do that those people that were slaves would have probably starved, been homeless, and died in another situation. Granted it's not the ideal people should be striving for, even back then, but until societies could evolve and change it was what worked best within the systems people had or were willing to do, and for it's time was benevolent. It was a means of taking care of people, and they had a better life doing it. It also gets left out that the "slaves" had a lot of rights, were often treated as part of the family and loved, often took control and inherited the properties of their masters, often ran their masters households, were required to be well taken care of, were required to be protected, were not allowed to be sold to foreigners who wouldn't take care of them, and if they felt they were wronged there were certain places the slaves could go to lodge complaints and escape their masters. That’s a far cry from what most modern people think of slavery.

Yes, theoretically if one believes in a higher power they could always believe he could snap his fingers and fix all those problems instantly and make everybody good, but that doesn't happen. So at least from the perspective of those that believe in one it seems that higher power doesn't do that, and he works within human society to get them to change and want to be willing themselves to do good themselves, like becoming a society structured where there is no slavery at all and there doesn't need to be.

 

[Will E Worm]

My son, as Will said those quotes are without context so they do not meaning anything.

No. It means he is a self-righteous and condescending bigot.

Typical liberal response. If he replies, or another liberal on his behave responds to this it will be typical as well.

.... agreeing with Will is a great way to prove both your stupidity and naivety.

:troll:

Wrong as usual.

D-rock is correct.

I don't usually side will Will, but..

You should.

To be fair to Christianity your completely taking all those out of context and reading them in a vacuum.
The non-slavery stuff you mentioned might seem somewhat silly on it's surface, but they were ceremonial things the ancient Israelites were required to do differentiate themselves from groups around them, who where quite despicable people, and used a lot of those banned things as a part of evil cult practices. It wasn't just capricious things spouted about. In any case as far as I know most Christian groups believe them to be no longer mandatory with the new covenant after Christ.

It's because a lot of those laws were in the Old Testament and they were laws given to the Israelites and not to Gentiles.

 

[assari]

Typical liberal response.

I have learned hear that the Liberals do not want to hear dissentig opinions.

If i agree with them then it is ok, if I disagree with them then I'm a troll and an idiot.

So from now on I ask permisson if I can say what I really think.

 

[Will E Worm]

I have learned hear that the Liberals do not want to hear dissentig opinions.

If i agree with them then it is ok, if I disagree with them then I'm a troll and an idiot.

So from now on I ask permisson if I can say what I really think.

They are more intolerant than they claim others to be.

 

[Jagger69]

Typical liberal response.

I have learned hear that the Liberals do not want to hear dissentig opinions.

If i agree with them then it is ok, if I disagree with them then I'm a troll and an idiot.

So from now on I ask permisson if I can say what I really think.

They are more intolerant than they claim others to be.

:1orglaugh Pretty comical stuff.

Let me get this straight.....assari starts a post accusing young people of engaging in "age racism" and then proceeds to make prejudicial, stereotypical and bigoted statements about them, others (myself included) disagree with him so he and his buddy Will call them "intolerant".

Typical twisted cupcake logic with a weak Finnish.

 

[Harley Spencer]

I thought before I wrote that and I do not change my opinion.

But if Harley wants only flattering feedback then it is a different story.

I am not after flattery, I am after what's right and what's fair, and this topic isn't about flattery in any sense. My post was a contribution to this subject offering a new perspective, which is evidently something someone your age isn't capable of comprehending.