2007 MLB Thread

IMO, Tony Gwynn is doing an outstanding job a broadcaster on TBS for the division and NLCS. He was a bit slow coming out of the gate, but lately has been doing an exceptional job.

Too bad TBS does not have the world series - I can't stand Joe Buck and Co.(unless FOX went to Thom Brennaman).

Yeah, I agree. Tony Gwynn has turned into a great analyst. And Joe Buck is just too negative. He just ruins the whole viewing experience.
 
Personally, I like Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, and Gary Cohen but I've enjoyed listening to Tony Gwynn. I think he's really insightful. Some players are great as analysts. Others are not and just plain boring.
 
I agree, Gwynn has been very good. Cal is doing pretty good in the studio as well.

Personally, I can't stand any of the FOX guys (Joe and Thom especially), so that's going to be a bummer.
 
Rockies - 18 out of the last 19 - Wow. Exciting team to watch!

They are just a team possessed. With momentum on their side who knows how far they will go. After barely making the playoffs!
 

member987

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Fox and TBS need to start the games earlier. Eight p.m. is too late to start the games that are running 3.5 - 4 hours each game, not including extra innings. I realize that in LCS every pitch counts and the networks want to schedule the games in prime time. Games lasting until midnight or like last nights Rockies/D-Back game until 2:45 a.m. is not going to keep any "casual" fans interested and tuned into the series.

The Tribe and Sox are now going to the 10th inning at 12:45 a.m. all tied up. The game is already 4 plus hours long...
 
Fox and TBS need to start the games earlier. Eight p.m. is too late to start the games that are running 3.5 - 4 hours each game, not including extra innings. I realize that in LCS every pitch counts and the networks want to schedule the games in prime time. Games lasting until midnight or like last nights Rockies/D-Back game until 2:45 a.m. is not going to keep any "casual" fans interested and tuned into the series.

The Tribe and Sox are now going to the 10th inning at 12:45 a.m. all tied up. The game is already 4 plus hours long...

They could also go back to how games used to be played where they didn't try to shove a commercial break in every place possible, and they could have it where the batter and pitcher have a time limit to get set up and throw.
 
They could also go back to how games used to be played where they didn't try to shove a commercial break in every place possible, and they could have it where the batter and pitcher have a time limit to get set up and throw.

There is a rule for the pitcher to throw the ball within a certain amount of time, I've seen it enforced once on Steve Trachsel when he played for the Mets last year:

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When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time the pitcher delays the game by violating this rule, the umpire shall call “Ball.” The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the ball and the batter is in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing stops when the pitcher releases the ball. The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the rubber promptly. Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire.

Not trying to prove you wrong, just thought you might like to know. I definitely agree that something has to be done about these long games. You just want to make sure you don't ruin the fabric of the game with any new rules. I like how MLB is starting ALCS games closer to 7PM EST at least they end earlier. I know theyre just doing this so people can watch both the ALCS and NLCS. It seems they're scheduling the NLCS to coincide with prime time in PST. I guess they figure only people in the west are interested? I remember when the games used to be 4PM and 7PM EST so you could see both. Remember day games? :1orglaugh
 
There is a rule for the pitcher to throw the ball within a certain amount of time, I've seen it enforced once on Steve Trachsel when he played for the Mets last year:

I know, but it hasn't been enforced for any time I have ever been watching baseball. I would also like to see batters quit screwing around after every swing. It seems if you watched people a long time ago they didn't do things like adjusting everything they were after each pitch. Games also used to be a lot shorter then they are now, and I feel part of the reason is that along with the television commercials. The lengthy games we have now are not the historical norm.

Also, if I could, I would make it so that for each new batter the pitcher only get one or two attempted pick of throws to a person already on base and after that it would count as a ball if he didn't get him out. I don't like it when the pitcher throws over to first four times to delay pitching the ball.
 
I know, but it hasn't been enforced for any time I have ever been watching baseball. I would also like to see batters quit screwing around after every swing. It seems if you watched people a long time ago they didn't do things like adjusting everything they were after each pitch. Games also used to be a lot shorter then they are now, and I feel part of the reason is that along with the television commercials. The lengthy games we have now are not the historical norm.
Definitely. It pisses me off every time we set a record for "longest 9-inning game" or some such, since I know it's no fair comparing time periods. I agree with you about the batters screwing around. Also, how about you can step out of the box briefly after each pitch, but once you get in the batters box after that, you can't step back out. And if the pitcher is taking too long (which is usually why they step out), then he will be called in violation of the above rule. Something like that would be helpful, I think.
Also, if I could, I would make it so that for each new batter the pitcher only get one or two attempted pick of throws to a person already on base and after that it would count as a ball if he didn't get him out. I don't like it when the pitcher throws over to first four times to delay pitching the ball.
I thought of this situation, but I see a problem. What if the count is 3 balls on the hitter with a runner on first, and he's already thrown over twice? Then the runner can take off on first movement of the pitcher, knowing that otherwise the pitcher will be assessed a ball, thus walking the hitter. And what if the runner just takes off from first? Would the pitcher be allowed to step off and throw to second? Still, I think there has got to be a way to make this type of rule work.
 

member987

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All valid points (batters/pitchers taking more time) but, it is the LCS, I don't blame them. In the regular season rules should be enforced to keep the game flowing. Pitchers do not take as much time during the regular season, they like to get in a grove and stay there. Batters, on the other hand are taking more time - some of them act like they should be allowed to change uniforms after each pitch - that is getting way out of hand, and drags into the playoffs.

I think the pitchers/batters should be given some slack in the playoffs, but the networks should allow for this time consumption when scheduling the games. 8 fucking 30 is too fucking late, imo. (Especially when you have to listen to Joe fucking Buck for 4 hours.)

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I thought of this situation, but I see a problem. What if the count is 3 balls on the hitter with a runner on first, and he's already thrown over twice? Then the runner can take off on first movement of the pitcher, knowing that otherwise the pitcher will be assessed a ball, thus walking the hitter. And what if the runner just takes off from first? Would the pitcher be allowed to step off and throw to second? Still, I think there has got to be a way to make this type of rule work.

In my scenario it's only a ball if the pitcher doesn't throw him out not just if he throws over to another base besides home plate. If he gets to the point where he's thrown over to the other three bases twice and he doesn't think he can get the runner with the next one and it gives the runner an advantage then he shouldn't have missed picking him off the first two times or he should not have thrown three balls already. The runner still has to be worried about a pick off but he probably does have more of an advantage where he can run. Then again you could argue the runner also has an advantage in a full count situation that happens now. In 99% of situations where they throw over more than twice they don't get the runner anyway and it's usually just a method of stalling than actually trying to throw out the runner. Having the pitcher know he can't keep flinging them over again and again in the same at bat without consequences would keep them from doing it unless they really sense they can get the guy out.
 
Also, if I could, I would make it so that for each new batter the pitcher only get one or two attempted pick of throws to a person already on base and after that it would count as a ball if he didn't get him out. I don't like it when the pitcher throws over to first four times to delay pitching the ball.

If you did that then after the alotted 2 pickoff attempts the baserunner would be able to take his lead of say 45 feet and then steal second base with impunity. Think about it. The pitcher can't throw over what's to stop the runner then?
 
If you did that then after the alotted 2 pickoff attempts the baserunner would be able to take his lead of say 45 feet and then steal second base with impunity. Think about it. The pitcher can't throw over what's to stop the runner then?

No, remember it would only be a ball if the pick off attempt fails, not if he merely attempts one after the first two tries. So if the runner did something like that it would be easy to pick him off and would have to be somewhat cautious still.
 
Do you think iamforever is just sitting at home right now, and just itching to gloat on here with his team on the verge of the world series? I bet he is. :) I wonder if his ban goes longer than the world series? Poor guy.
 
Do you think iamforever is just sitting at home right now, and just itching to gloat on here with his team on the verge of the world series? I bet he is. :) I wonder if his ban goes longer than the world series? Poor guy.

If Cleveland does win the World Series will he be forced to get himself banned each time they make the playoffs as a form of good luck from now on? :1orglaugh
 
Do you think iamforever is just sitting at home right now, and just itching to gloat on here with his team on the verge of the world series? I bet he is. :) I wonder if his ban goes longer than the world series? Poor guy.

If Cleveland does win the World Series will he be forced to get himself banned each time they make the playoffs as a form of good luck from now on? :1orglaugh

You guys are funny. I've been thinking alot about that first point as I've been watching the games the past week or so. Of course the sox won last night, but the Indians still are on the verge. I'm sure he is at home, itching to gloat, and he should be. Playing the yanks and the red sox, the indians probably have the toughest road to the series of any team, and if they get there, they'll have to face a team that is on one of the greatest rolls in recent memory. If they win the world series, he can gloat all he wants. :1orglaugh:D
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
Do you think iamforever is just sitting at home right now, and just itching to gloat on here with his team on the verge of the world series? I bet he is. :) I wonder if his ban goes longer than the world series? Poor guy.

He'll be back in november

If Cleveland does win the World Series will he be forced to get himself banned each time they make the playoffs as a form of good luck from now on? :1orglaugh

Good idea

You guys are funny. I've been thinking alot about that first point as I've been watching the games the past week or so. Of course the sox won last night, but the Indians still are on the verge. I'm sure he is at home, itching to gloat, and he should be. Playing the yanks and the red sox, the indians probably have the toughest road to the series of any team, and if they get there, they'll have to face a team that is on one of the greatest rolls in recent memory. If they win the world series, he can gloat all he wants. :1orglaugh:D

He'll defiantly be gloating!:D
 
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