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One of my favorite quotes from this: "I’ve been in this job eight years, and I’m wracking my brain to think of one thing our party has done that’s been something positive, that’s been something other than stopping something else from happening." - Representative Tom Rooney of Florida...

Pro-tip: Anyone saying "Obama Notrauma" can be immediately identified not only as a fool, but as a full-out fucking moron. Like, the kind of fucking moron that isn't just born slightly dumb, but has spent a life time splooging his willful ignorance all over himself and bathing in it on a daily...

Winning World War II. And we've been coasting on that (with the notable exception of our Cold War-fueled space achievements) ever since. What's with the quotation mark spacing? If you take Merriam-Webster(.com)'s first three definitions of 'great', the answer is yes. This being 'great' as in...

I haven't looked into it fully yet, but much of what I read describes it as essentially Obamacare Lite - with most of the same problems and lack of solutions to the underlying problems. So, about what I expected. Considering the Affordable Care Act is more popular than Obamacare, the Republicans...

You had me worried! I think we're all on the same page here, but with the Pelosi deflection taking up so much of this thread, I think it's worth getting back to the point, which Supafly summarized:

One of the alt-right nuts is a mod. There are alt-right nuts in the White House. The system is seriously close to hosed. And let's do away with the white washing terms - these people are the far right, overlapping if not fully grouping in with white supremacists and neo-Nazis. "It's raining...

...please tell me you're not just learning this now? My main bone to pick with you folks abroad is that you keep engaging these guys. Don't; you know it's a waste of time (I realize I've just done that this thread, but I'm not keeping up with all the name changes). They're already so far down...

What he said was "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated." Which was a stupid thing to say. I suppose it's a good thing I've never given Pelosi that pass, then. So: Trump deserves ridicule for his comment. And something a Democrat says is irrelevant to that.

Just a fair warning, insults coming from you mean literally nothing to me. But I encourage you to keep at it if it makes you feel superior. What is your point?

I often wonder if partisans are intellectually capable of "defending" their side without playground deflection.

I suggest you learn how astericks work. They're a pretty useful tool with the written word. Better to be pompous than an idiot. ...and on that note, I don't generally waste my time on those, so I wish you all the best and goodbye. This is what I've been telling folks around me - if the...

Yep. The more I watched him in the debates, the less I think that's true. Sam Ronan and Sally Boynton Brown were the only ones that weren't entirely full of ****. I think it's a nice sentiment - I don't think it's a winning one. They are squarely center-right. They only appear otherwise...

In other news, DNC has collective amnesia, forgets 2016 happened and vows to continue doing the same ****. :facepalm:

Easy: I didn't. All I did was bring evidence against a statement (48% ≠ 'vast majority').

There's a very simple reason the free market has no business in healthcare: Patients don't get to choose. You don't get to choose which ambulence scoops you up, which hospital is closest, what heart surgery you need, etc. You know, just like the free market has no business in the police and...

Indeed. Mmm, tasty talking points. What you're talking about is ownership of speech, of which the internet is possibly the greatest conduit thereof. Much like the corporate-owned media doesn't report on things that are inconvenient to their owner's bottom lines, a corporate-owned internet is...

Uh...what?

One very important direction to watch is Trump's FCC pick, who has a raging hard-on for making the internet as much a corporate dissemination platform as corporate news outlets. Once that cat's out of the bag, we're good and truly fucked.

I loved some of the comments around his appointment (for lack of a better term) as the highest ranking Democrat: "He raises a lot of money!". Talk about lesson not learned. I don't know how much stopping power the Democrats really have at the moment, but it sure seems like they aren't putting...

Democracy Now! had an interesting interview with Glenn Greenwald on this today. https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2017/2/16

You know it's bad when Arnie looks better with every interaction...

I do wonder who is genuinely surprised. The phrase you're looking for is "useful idiot". A devotee who consumes a narrative uncritically and attempts to propagate it. There's good reason I've got those two on ignore. I tried the reason and debate route and it was clear very quickly it wasn't...

:rofl2::rofl: This unbelievable irony and dearth of self-reflection is why I view your posts once in a blue moon just to check that my choice to ignore you was the right one, though in this particular case, you're so oblivious to your own horseshit it's actually hilarious. I laughed. In real...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/06/equating-bad-polls-with-fake-news-trump-further-inflates-his-surreality-bubble/?utm_term=.a1620256ac26 The worldview of the man and his core supporters, summed up succinctly. Anything negative is fake. ...we really, really, really need...

I kindly recommend you read both uses of "non sequitur": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(literary_device) We're not being treated like ****. We're being called out on our ****. The more you're invested in jingoism, the hazier...

...yet we wouldn't be a country without his, so... I'll bet all Europeans would absolutely love to do just that - as soon as America practices what you preach.

...something the current administration is totally down for repeating, and no doubt his supporters are either fully in favor or will perform the mental gymnastics to allow themselves to be in favor of. But your point is well taken; the "Greatest Generation" is to great much like the US is the...

I would've said this, but I haven't picked apart some of the presidents after FDR enough to say it with conviction. It's compelling, though - under FDR the United States became the most powerful country on the planet. Yes, there were mighty big circumstances around that (namely half the rest of...

"They" have been ****** at the wheel since Reagan, at least. I give the Democrats until 2020. They'll either learn from 2016 or they'll fail miserably and be finished. The DNC head nominations do not look promising. It's one of the two items left on this list that are left to check off; and the...

I mean, this is how it happens; this isn't unusual nor unexpected. And more than a few of these occurred well before Trump's time - he just seems hellbent on getting the missing items checked off as soon as possible and exacerbating the ones already checked.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't all seen this by now (or if it's in that very large thread), but it's eerie how true the mantra "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it" is. From the Holocaust Museum: Just a couple more to go guys, we can do it! :partysml:

The answer to this question coincides with "When will Democrats grow spines?" ...so I'm expecting 8+ years and a full slide into 1984-esque fascism. And the Democrats will say "B-b-but we voted no a couple of times...!"

Reasonable, considering it's morally bankrupt. Also reasonable, considering it's intellectually bankrupt. You need to parse out "liberal" from "Democrat". The Democratic party is a center-right-authoritarian party. They're only considered 'left' to myopic Americans who only have the far...

This irony will be lost on the useful idiots beyond their dying day. It's aggravating, though, because it's my country too they're trying to destroy. With ignorant glee. Still dumb as dirt, I see. Why can't I put you on my ignore list yet...?

Emphasis added. Definitely your character.

That you don't already speaks to your character, not the event's organizers.

I remember hearing about a poll years ago that asked Americans something to the effect of: Would you prefer to have the economy of Japan (or somewhere, I don't remember) grow 50% while the American economy grows 10% or have the economy of Japan shrink 50% while the American economy shrinks 10% -...

Watching Conway try to polish **** that (I hope only) a few on the right consume with appropriately ****-eating grins is funny, but also depressing. If there is a significant audience for her bullshit, we really are a fucking stupid country. And I don't mean stupid as uninformed or uneducated -...

Some of this is media driven. Nobody in the corporate media had even heard about people protesting DAPL until a movie star was arrested among the protesters. Unfortuantely, we probably still have a generation to go before said media becomes entirely irrelevant (now whether movie stars' egos...

The reason for this distrust is pretty simple: Comcast, Newscorp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner, and CBS do not own the vast majority of media companies to inform. They own them to profit. And there is no profit to informing people to what's going on - quite the opposite, in fact.

I can't encourage this enough. :thumbsup: I'll be voting for Stein or Johnson depending on whoever is closest to an important threshold, but in my state it won't matter at all anyway. I have fortunately had the pleasure of convincing friends in Ohio to do the same and in turn their friends, though.

All of these are good reasons not to vote for Clinton. None of them are good enough reasons to vote for Trump. The media borderline created Trump: $2 Billion Worth of Free Media for Donald Trump. So you can go ahead and take them out of that list. The two parties? Sure. Big business? Because a...

I'm going to level with you guys: this has gone up. 1%. I'm starting to see a very strange and quixotic path where Donald Trump, while potentially disastrous in the short-term, would actually be the best option longterm between him and Hillary Clinton. Hillary: The Conservative Hope (behind the...

The revolution he references is ironically directly opposite your fears; it's about more consent of the governed. It's about getting people to actually vote. I can't find the direct quote, but he said something along the lines of "If voter turnout were 70-80%, this would be a very different...

0%. And so the corruption continues. :thumbsup: You still can't vote in the US, right? It will be a dark day indeed when you can. This is a waste, guys. Find someone who you can support and vote for them. If they aren't in the two parties, all the better. A third party candidate isn't...

Yet I doubt your narrative has budged an inch. :dunno: One of the more surprising things I learned from Robert Pape's Dying to Win is that the group with the most suicide ****** attacks wasn't in the Middle East - or even religious. Secular, in fact. One of the conclusions of the book is that...

The statement in contention was not: "There are more slaves in Islamic countries than Christian ones." But rather that which you and I have both highlighted, repeated, and now re-worded: Which, by your own evidence, is still false.

Translation (it isn't with English you're having the problem, it's with Bullshit): "...not in Christian countries, discounting all those Christian countries that directly contradict my worldview." My examples included Christian-majority and Christian-state countries. Soooo... Credit where...

It'd help if you didn't make (by your own evidence) clearly false statements. Third time's the charm?

Ooof, I sense a chickenshit copout. Please don't pull a chickenshit copout. That's BC's territory. You said (emphasis added): You then provided this link, which shows your own statement is false: Process that and I'll get to your question.