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The shape of things to come. Hopefully lynchings won't happen again.

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The shape of things to come. Hopefully lynchings won't happen again.

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Hopefully they will.
We have a candidate who won the democratic nomination by massive election fraud.
Same careerr criminal also took BILLIONS of dollars in bribes while she was secretary of state.
She used a private email to cover this up which put all contact to her in the hands of anybody in the world.
This is serious treason against the american people.
I'll stop just at that.
Not only her corruption but the entire US GOV corruption at this point is about as bad as it's ever been in anyplace or time in history.
Plus it's war and aggression policy is going to eventually get us all ******. How long can it continue before the entire world has had enough and does something about it. Of course if they do israel will probably blow up the world so we're screwed either way.

The only way she will become PREZ is by massive election fraud.
If this happens there will be 2 ways our country can go:
Accept the fact that we live in a fascist dictatorship and police state or ********, lots of ********.
Followed by lots of hunger and thirst followed by more ********.

It's serious stuff here at this point. I don't think most people understand just how serious.
Every generation of Americans have tried to leave the next generation in a better place.
Well that ain't happening anymore. Assuming we the world doesn't get nuked into a lifeless rock what do you think it will be like in 10, 20, 50 years if we continue to let these psychopaths (and I'm not just talking about political leaders) run things the way they have been?
 
It's serious stuff here at this point. I don't think most people understand just how serious.

As usual MP, I swim with your overall tide, while staying out of any particular current. I stuck with that one line because you didn't finish it.

It's serious stuff here at this point. I don't think most people understand just how serious. And all we have to do is not nominate Trump. Or Cruz.

You see how that third step ties right in with the first two? Recognize that there is a problem, address the problem, don't make the problem worse. It's a time-tested formula.
 
Well 1st I know I sound very dramatic, but it really is serious stuff (as you know).
One reason it's serious is that the Clinton crimes are provable. Almost any lawyer if given the opportunity could nail them dead to rights on so many of the ******* and unethical things they've done.
But this Clinton foundation play for pay thing is the one that should finish them off once and for all.
Taking bribes as an official of the US GOV is high treason.
Polticians have done years in jail, even recently, for taking only a few thousand bucks, Here we are talking one of the highest and most important offices in the GOV taking not millions but billions in flat out bribes.
What it really is is selling everyone of us, our families and ******** down the river to anyone who has the money.
Mostly foreign interests but entirely to people, countries, businesses that our best interest is on the bottom of their lists.
Lets not forget these people are supposed to be working for us.

I know you know all this Mayhem, I'm just saying it anyway.
And the fact that the entire system- politicians, *************** at the highest level, the msm, and everybody else not only does nothing to stop these creatures but covers for them and even promotes them to be possibly the next PREZ shows just how corrupt our GOV has become.
It needs to be wiped clean. Every incumbent in Senate and Congress needs to be voted out.
Then term limits need to be put in place. Because it's turned into a mafia that's got there hand in everything and always at The Peoples expense.
Everyone knows we're spiraling downwards and this is the reason why. It's the crux of the problems.
There was never meant to be a thing called a career politician. It was supposed to be private citizens holding temporary office then returning to their private lives and business. That was mainly to avoid the corruption we have today.

Ok enough soapboxing.
Not nominating Trump or Cruz or any other existing republican politician would be a start.
But here is the thing. Cruz or anybody else in the party would be the same. They would just continue the same criminal enterprise crap.
So it would have to be a private citizen . And how many of them are there that could actually go anywhere the way the system is set up?
Trump is a rarity because he's well known, he's willing to be PREZ and he's very very rich.
Those are the 3 things you need I suppose to be an outsider with a chance of becoming PREZ.
DT is the only one I know of.

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant, not sure.
But what other options are there?

Just to be clear I don't pay much attention to Trump. I hear what he says and all but the main reason to want him in, at least to me is only to get someone in there who is not part of the club and just maybe they might do what's best for us for a change.
Trump may or not be the person to do it. He might not be able to do it. But at this point...........**** a volleyball named Wilson would be better than we've had in a long time.
 
The shape of things to come. Hopefully lynchings won't happen again.

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Hopefully they will.


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My friend, postings like these indicate youare moving onto dangerous grounds. If you actually sympathize with armed revolting, you head into a future of people like Clive Bundy and others.

Not only is that counterproductive, it hurts your cause and it may bring you to court or worse.

Stay safe.
 
Well 1st I know I sound very dramatic, but it really is serious stuff (as you know).
One reason it's serious is that the Clinton crimes are provable. Almost any lawyer if given the opportunity could nail them dead to rights on so many of the ******* and unethical things they've done.
But this Clinton foundation play for pay thing is the one that should finish them off once and for all.
Taking bribes as an official of the US GOV is high treason.

Politicians have done years in jail, even recently, for taking only a few thousand bucks, Here we are talking one of the highest and most important offices in the GOV taking not millions but billions in flat out bribes.
What it really is is selling everyone of us, our families and ******** down the river to anyone who has the money.
Mostly foreign interests but entirely to people, countries, businesses that our best interest is on the bottom of their lists.
Lets not forget these people are supposed to be working for us.

I know you know all this Mayhem, I'm just saying it anyway.
And the fact that the entire system- politicians, *************** at the highest level, the msm, and everybody else not only does nothing to stop these creatures but covers for them and even promotes them to be possibly the next PREZ shows just how corrupt our GOV has become.
It needs to be wiped clean. Every incumbent in Senate and Congress needs to be voted out.
Then term limits need to be put in place. Because it's turned into a mafia that's got there hand in everything and always at The Peoples expense.
Everyone knows we're spiraling downwards and this is the reason why. It's the crux of the problems.
There was never meant to be a thing called a career politician. It was supposed to be private citizens holding temporary office then returning to their private lives and business. That was mainly to avoid the corruption we have today.

Ok enough soapboxing.
Not nominating Trump or Cruz or any other existing republican politician would be a start.
But here is the thing. Cruz or anybody else in the party would be the same. They would just continue the same criminal enterprise crap.
So it would have to be a private citizen . And how many of them are there that could actually go anywhere the way the system is set up?
Trump is a rarity because he's well known, he's willing to be PREZ and he's very very rich.
Those are the 3 things you need I suppose to be an outsider with a chance of becoming PREZ.
DT is the only one I know of.

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant, not sure.
But what other options are there?

Just to be clear I don't pay much attention to Trump. I hear what he says and all but the main reason to want him in, at least to me is only to get someone in there who is not part of the club and just maybe they might do what's best for us for a change.
Trump may or not be the person to do it. He might not be able to do it. But at this point...........**** a volleyball named Wilson would be better than we've had in a long time.

I'm not convinced about the "pay-to-play" assertion. And if it is a thing, the other side has done a **** poor job of proving it. And no, it's not in the "billions" even if it's true.
And the fact that the entire system- politicians, *************** at the highest level, the msm, and everybody else not only does nothing to stop these creatures but covers for them and even promotes them to be possibly the next PREZ shows just how corrupt our GOV has become.
Hell, I said the same thing when General Petraeus got off scot-free and took no end of **** for it. To be clear, we are in absolute agreement.

There was never meant to be a thing called a career politician. It was supposed to be private citizens holding temporary office then returning to their private lives and business. That was mainly to avoid the corruption we have today.

What you are describing causes a great deal of the corruption. I am a doctor of some sort. I have 4 to 8 years then I have to go back to my practice. That's 4 to 8 years of wheelin'-n'-dealin' with the pharmaceutical industry that my constituents just bought me. The same thing happens all over the place, including military officers sucking up to the defense contractors in advance for job/career opportunities. "Term Limits" are a sugar pill for a migraine. I'm not trying to change your mind, but I don't think you should be as big a fan as you are.

Those are the 3 things you need I suppose to be an outsider with a chance of becoming PREZ.
Of all the things Trump is, an outsider isn't one of them. He's a slightly different insider. I interpret a lot of what you're saying as: "Hey, I'm tired of the Crips holding office, I'm voting for the Bloods this time." Different colors, same fucked up mentality.


Just to be clear I don't pay much attention to Trump.
I do pay attention to him. And so should you. And everything you've posted in the last couple months is the reason you should. What you are asking for is impossible with your nominee. You're trying to put out a fire with rolled up newspaper. And you're so pissed off about the fire, you're not noticing that all you're using is a rolled up newspaper.
 
Maybe in Germany it would. Hoping for something to happen is not the same as calling for it.

Just so you know:

Hoping to happen is in general not punishable in Germany, too.

I was more refering to the path his posts are going in the last weeks, and where they may well lead him. And THERE is a possibility he crosses over to ******* steps. You know, a great part of the guys who lateron went on to grabbing weapons instead of words started out on social media, like him, and others around here.
 
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Rush Limbaugh: Yeah, well I guess the difference is—well not the difference, I guess the thing is, this is gonna enrage you. You know, I could choose a path here to try to mollify you, but I never took him seriously on this [deportating the illegals]!
Rick: 10 million people did.
Rush: Yeah, and they still don’t care. My point is they still don’t care. They’re gonna stick with him no matter what.
Rick: But this is why Trump is going to get annihilated. Because nobody called him out early on about his absurd policies.
Rush: Yes they did! For ****** out loud, 15 candidates called him out. Everybody was calling him out. Everybody was calling him an idiot and a charlatan and a phoney-boloney plastic banana—everybody was.
Rick: Except unfortunately the number one place where Republican primary voters get their news.
Rush: Oh no, it’s on me and we’re out of time––
Rick: Which is Fox.

News-flash trump voters : you've been Trumped, you've been liede to, by people who knew Trump wouldn't stick to his stance on illegals. You've been lied to by people who thought they could liure you and then when (or if) you would come ot learn you've been lied to, it wopuld be too late and you would stick to a candidate who's not gonna do what he said he would, what made you support him.
The ban on muslim immigrants ? It's no longer a thing.. He already redifined it (or expanded it, as he says). It's no longer about religion, it's now abount territory.
Syrian refugee ? **** off, terrorist !
Qatari business man ? Welcome my friend, you and you're 12 burqa wearing wives are our guests. Make yourself at home in the Trump Tower royal suite. You're secretely funding ISIS ? Who cares, we're here for business, not politics.

And what about Yazidis, for example ? They are from Syria and Iraq but they are christians...
 
^ "Compared to what?" - Thomas Sowell.

And Yazidis are not Christian for the most part. They have their own distinct religion apart from Christianity and Islam. Which is one reason ISIS ********** them.
 
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"Donald Trump has made his outlandish policy of ******* Mexico to pay for his giant wall the centerpiece of his campaign. But at the first opportunity to make good on his offensive campaign promises, Trump ******," Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said in a statement.

"What we saw today from a man who claims to be the ultimate 'deal maker' is that he doesn't have the courage to advocate for his campaign promises when he's not in front of a friendly crowd," Podesta said, before accusing Trump of wanting to build a costly wall at American taxpayers' expense.

Podesta later added: "It turns out Trump didn't just *****, he got beat in the room and lied about it."
 
That list of defined campaign propositions is a good step. Still contains some points that either do not work (Like that wall, which is not buildable) or unethical ("Ideological Vetting" is against the us constitution, as I believe, and "America First", meaning only accepting refugees that are needed, is against international and I believe US ethical standards, too)

Yet, again:

Finally, we get a list of what exactly Trump proposes.

It is clear that there has to be done a lot regarding your immigration system, and regarding ******* aliens. But you have to be aware that those plans of deporting millions and getting rid of the mass of ******* aliens would propably massively impact the farming sector, because they would lose their cheap labor *****
 
Yesterday was the single best day of the Trump campaign

How so?
He got called out by Mexican president Nieto regarding payment for his wall.
He stated we have record levels of immigration (false)
He stated we may have as few as 3 million (false) or as many as 30 million (false) illegals here.
He stated we have open borders (false)
He stated Clinton supports open borders (false)
He stated that refugees are unvetted (false)
 
Yesterday was the single best day of the Trump campaign

Yes it was.


I'm not sure it was a compliment. If that counts as a best day then you're running a pretty weak campaign.

But I agree. It was his "best"day. Now we slip back into the "average" Trump day. And we've seen how those go.

Come to think of it, a day like yesterday pretty much winds up being the catalyst for 3-4 days of projectile spewing from He-Who-Pivots-Then-Pivots-Back. So pack your umbrellas.
 
How so?
He got called out by Mexican president Nieto regarding payment for his wall.
He stated we have record levels of immigration (false)
He stated we may have as few as 3 million (false) or as many as 30 million (false) illegals here.
He stated we have open borders (false)
He stated Clinton supports open borders (false)
He stated that refugees are unvetted (false)
How in the fuck do you know what numbers are false? You're the only person in the country that seems to know. How many?

The refugees have gone through a process of attempted vetting but there is no way they can be vetted so they are not.

El presidente said he won't pay for the wall, but it wasn't negotiated. Trump never claimed to discuss it with him. He will definitely pay for it and we have the means to collect assets to insure they do. So how exactly is his word against Trump's calling him out?

We have one open border. The Northern one is secure.

I have some immigration numbers, but they don't mesh because only you seem to have access to the real numbers.

I look forward to you clearing this up and we can compare notes.
 
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