For All You People Who Just Love George W. Bush

[efeezy]

And continually want to criticize Obama, when he's not even the president yet.

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT OBAMA CAN MAKE THINGS WORSE THAN BUSH HAS ALREADY DONE?

I'm dead serious here. I voted for Bush twice, but I now realize how much of a mistake that was. Do you have any valid rational whatsoever for your argument that Bush was a good president and didn't completely lead us into the current state of the country?

 

[Friday on my mind]

As Harry Truman said "the buck stops here".Presidents are to one degree or another the beneficiaries or victims of circumstances but we still can determine whether they were good or bad presidents I think in spite of that.And GWB IMO is easily the worst in at least the last 50 years if not longer.I heard him the other day talking about his accomplishments and was like you must be kidding George.You are leaving us with an ecnomy which is in real trouble,damaged our image and prestige around the world with your invading Iraq and dissing so many other countries which used to be very close to us and just generally being a no class "cowboy" who should be shoveling **** someplace instead of having any position of authority anywhere.Time for the sophisticated intelligent types like Obama to run things for a while and try to repair all the damage done.

And yes its time to move on,the election is over.OBAMA won,republicans are discredited.Maybe that will change but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[om3ga]

And continually want to criticize Obama, when he's not even the president yet.

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT OBAMA CAN MAKE THINGS WORSE THAN BUSH HAS ALREADY DONE?

I'm dead serious here. I voted for Bush twice, but I now realize how much of a mistake that was. Do you have any valid rational whatsoever for your argument that Bush was a good president and didn't completely lead us into the current state of the country?

Thank you.......:glugglug:


First of all, folks and folkesses:
Obama is not Mr. Perfect; he will make mistakes. He might even make a serious blunder domestically and/or globally.
But howabout waiting for the man to actually cock-up as Prez, before heaping criticism on him??? Just a thought....
For that matter, I hope people will be big enough to give him credit, if he makes a good Prez (but somehow, I doubt it).

Secondly:
If I was an Afro-American, I'd be seriously pi$$ed of at some of the threads posted. 40-odd years after MLK's death, a non-caucasian has become President of the USA, and instead of a critical analysis of the guy's potential and flaws, we get stuff like...."Obongo"

Finally:
One of the comments I hear from the fans of Dubya is that "History will be kinder to GWB". If Iraq does become a stable democracy, then Dubya will be looked at more kindly. Also, he did spend billions on AIDS treatment in Africa.
But the man made mistakes...and I fear we'll remember his mistakes more than his successes.

Sorry for the :2 cents:

 

[calpoon]

"History will be kinder to GWB".

"History is written by those who've hanged heroes."

 

[GiannaIsMyGod]

Agree. Obama will make mistake. He's human after all, but I am confident his decisions will be well thought out and all options will be looked into, both from the left and the right. Unlike the Bush's administrations which was "our way or the highway".

 

[anomaly]

Every president can make a major fuck up. We just hope it's not intentional:****::ak47:

 

[BlueBalls]

He's already been elected so who gives a fuck what other people think. Let people carry on bitching and moaning about how he's not an American or that he's a Socialist (ooooooo did I just say the S word...).

Its like a ***** stomping their feet at the end of an event because they didnt win, so by getting involved you being the ****** that spoilt that ***** to begin with. So if I can suggest something, leave them be. Let them carry on, the Obongo thread is a perfect example of just how ridiculous the "stomping of the feet" can get.

 

[ChefChiTown]

And continually want to criticize Obama, when he's not even the president yet.

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT OBAMA CAN MAKE THINGS WORSE THAN BUSH HAS ALREADY DONE?

I'm dead serious here. I voted for Bush twice, but I now realize how much of a mistake that was. Do you have any valid rational whatsoever for your argument that Bush was a good president and didn't completely lead us into the current state of the country?

I think the funniest part is how everybody who has voiced their opinion on how much they **** Bush and how much they can't wait for him to leave office, are the same exact people who are all pissed off that Obama is going to be our next President.

People just love to bitch about stuff.

 

[young_guns]

Yes we can!!!

 

[georges]

As Harry Truman said "the buck stops here".Presidents are to one degree or another the beneficiaries or victims of circumstances but we still can determine whether they were good or bad presidents I think in spite of that.And GWB IMO is easily the worst in at least the last 50 years if not longer.I heard him the other day talking about his accomplishments and was like you must be kidding George.You are leaving us with an ecnomy which is in real trouble,damaged our image and prestige around the world with your invading Iraq and dissing so many other countries which used to be very close to us and just generally being a no class "cowboy" who should be shoveling **** someplace instead of having any position of authority anywhere.Time for the sophisticated intelligent types like Obama to run things for a while and try to repair all the damage done.

And yes its time to move on,the election is over.OBAMA won,republicans are discredited.Maybe that will change but I wouldn't count on it.

Wait a minute, all this economical crisis came as result from actions that were done before the Bush administration under the Clinton administration who authorized banks to give loans to people with smaller revenues even if they were not solvent. I mean how can one be so fucking stupid to authorize banks to do this?:scream: Also, it is the fault of your own bank institution, if they weren't enough severe in controlling people who were stealing other people's money and pensions on the stock market which gave as result people that have nothing left, so stop accusing Bush of all your bad lucks, the state is not ****** theresa and it owes you not a damn cent.
Clinton has been kissing the UN's ass during his whole presidency and you would consider that as prestige? What can we expect of Obama? More or less the same and perhaps kneeing in front of Iran and Syria as well if we are not too optimistic.
"Dissing" other countries have I fucking heard? I mean when you fight terrorism there is no in between, you are either with terrorists or against them. Concerning Iraq, please don't tell me that Iraqis had it better under Saddam because I will call you a liar. Concerning Europe, we already know that a bunch of its countries are lead by leftist ***** hearts who don't really see what happens and who only like America when a liberal gets elected.
Let see how intelligent Obama will be by ghettoizing America and turning it into a socialist country.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Wait a minute, all this economical crisis came as result from actions that were done before the Bush administration under the Clinton administration who authorized banks to give loans to people with smaller revenues even if they were not solvent. I mean how can one be so fucking stupid to authorize banks to do this?:scream: Also, it is the fault of your own bank institution, if they weren't enough severe in controlling people who were stealing other people's money and pensions on the stock market which gave as result people that have nothing left, so stop accusing Bush of all your bad lucks, the state is not ****** theresa and it owes you not a damn cent.
Clinton has been kissing the UN's ass during his whole presidency and you would consider that as prestige? What can we expect of Obama? More or less the same and perhaps kneeing in front of Iran and Syria as well if we are not too optimistic.
"Dissing" other countries have I fucking heard? I mean when you fight terrorism there is no in between, you are either with terrorists or against them. Concerning Iraq, please don't tell me that Iraqis had it better under Saddam because I will call you a liar. Concerning Europe, we already know that a bunch of its countries are lead by leftist ***** hearts who don't really see what happens and who only like America when a liberal gets elected.
Let see how intelligent Obama will be by ghettoizing America and turning it into a socialist country.

You may see it that way but the majority of americans who vote don't,thats why Obama won and the democrates in general won also.Americans see republicans and Bush as having nothing to offer they want for the most part.This nonsense of trying to go back more than 8 years to Clinton and blame him for current conditions won't fly.
And yes I say Iraq was not benefitted by our invasion and neitheir were we and most americans think that also and that invading was a mistake.Call me a liar all you want I am an older actual american as compared to someone who is not and is an extremist on the right and has everything wrong.:1orglaugh We had a redneck idiot for president and we see how good and smart they are dont we?

 

[titsrock]

I don't think any of our usual conservative suspects will post in this thread. Georges has responded for them with a de facto "Blame everything on Clinton" response.

 

[Will E Worm]

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT OBAMA CAN MAKE THINGS WORSE THAN BUSH HAS ALREADY DONE?

I don't like any of the Bush ******.

Yes, Obama can do much worse as can any President after him.

They are imperfect men.
Also, they are puppets.

America needs to cut ties with the UN and get rid of the Federal Reserve.

 

[meesterperfect]

And continually want to criticize Obama, when he's not even the president yet.

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT OBAMA CAN MAKE THINGS WORSE THAN BUSH HAS ALREADY DONE?

I'm dead serious here. I voted for Bush twice, but I now realize how much of a mistake that was. Do you have any valid rational whatsoever for your argument that Bush was a good president and didn't completely lead us into the current state of the country?

Aside from the war in Iraq, which wasn't only his decision, I don't think he did a bad job.

I think people use him as a scapegoat and blame him for far more than he deserves.
the media ignited that sentiment because they are democrat and wanted to see to it that the next PREZ was democrat also.
It worked.

And yes, it can get much much worse.

 

[Torre82]

Argh! Just when you thought a frenchman named Georges was gone!

 

[The Paulinator]

I don't think Bush was a good president at all, but I am sick as all fuck of hearing bullshit about Obama nearly along the lines of which read "....and on the third day after His inauguration, he was ascended into heaven"

Sure it would be tough to do worse....but the man is human also. Some people who are painting him as the be-all-end-all to ALL of America's problems are setting themselves up to be disappointed to some degree.

Can he do a worse job? Get ready for all the "Yes We Can" jokes if he does. Only it won't be funny.

Edit: Got one already!

 

[stampede2873]

I don't like any of the Bush ******.

Yes, Obama can do much worse as can any President after him.

They are imperfect men.
Also, they are puppets.

America needs to cut ties with the UN and get rid of the Federal Reserve.

I don't think it needs to be said in any cleaner way.

Almost everyone on this thread that is gushing for obama or standing up for bush is a blind moron. The problems stem from MUCH, MUCH more than one man or political party - we think we have a 2 party system...

No we don't.

All we have are "Oppo-sames" Parties that act differently yet inherently are EXACTLY the same.

Stop thinking that Obama is a Savior and Bush is the Devil. Try instead to see the true problems of this world and our(USA) problems and stop and think of ways to truely effect a change that is worthwhile.


* Remember, not everyone is going to like you, thats the nature of humanity.*

 

[Nester6]

I think the funniest part is how everybody who has voiced their opinion on how much they **** Bush and how much they can't wait for him to leave office, are the same exact people who are all pissed off that Obama is going to be our next President.

People just love to bitch about stuff.

True! Can't please em all chef!

 

[georges]

You may see it that way but the majority of americans who vote don't,thats why Obama won and the democrates in general won also.Americans see republicans and Bush as having nothing to offer they want for the most part.This nonsense of trying to go back more than 8 years to Clinton and blame him for current conditions won't fly.
And yes I say Iraq was not benefitted by our invasion and neitheir were we and most americans think that also and that invading was a mistake.Call me a liar all you want I am an older actual american as compared to someone who is not and is an extremist on the right and has everything wrong.:1orglaugh We had a redneck idiot for president and we see how good and smart they are dont we?

People who voted for Obama as well as people from other countries who were backing and fanboying him up, anyone who is educated and well informed knows exactly who they really are. Perhaps should we name them even if it is too cold hearted? Let me do it for you: students, ghetto people, some disillusioned white middle class and upper class people, hippies, teachers, human rights association members, greens, anti *** and anti war people.
Oh yeah, these people are so great for USA and the change will be so great:scream: Do you believe in every promise that your beloved President dear Obama has made? If it is yes, you are beyond naive and totally clueless as are most leftists on this earth. You know very well that he won't be able to do all what he promised even the 1/4th of it, so stop promoting Obama as America's godsaver. You always have the same excuse coming from your mouth, extremist on the right. I don't think you know what extremist means.
Extremist is someone like Pat Robertson or Ahmadinejhad or Meychal.
I am a conservative and I have a lot of respect and tolerance for people who work and bust their asses off to earn their salary, as well as people who are patriots and know that in some cases wars are unfortunately necessary and that peace through cease fires and talks is not always working as it should.
But I am disliking the attitude of some people thinking that the state should help them financially and socially when they are not willing to work or integrate themselves as well as people who think that being laxist is a solution to all problems. You called Bush a redneck idiot, let see what Obama, your so intelligent ghetto crowd fanboyed wizzard will do for the betterment of the USA. You claim that you are American, right. I don't think so, you have not much patriotism and you have typical socialist views which are far to be American.
p.s: Note to others, I am responding to FOMM so don't jump on me because I was expressing my very honest opinion.

 

[Dawn]

p.s: Note to others, I am responding to FOMM so don't jump on me because I was expressing my very honest opinion.

I won't argue, georges, because, as you know, i always respect what you are asking us...

...but your last post in very hard to not comment. While there is very solid points that i acknowledge, there is some others i found to be very questionnable and even somewhat disrespectful.

May i just say that from a Conservative vs Liberal viewpoint, it's not all liberals that are how you (usually) portray them as much as not all the conservatives are radicals, fascists or bigots (as too often portrayed by leftish people).

There is intelligent people on both side of the fence, and idiots on both sides as well.

Note that i'm myself a teacher (so part of your list of pro-Obama) and my viewpoint is not the one you think i should have as a teacher.

I don't really mind who is now in charge in USA. The good news, for me, is not the election of Obama but the end of the Bush era. If i'm going to celebrate something, it's not the arrival of Obama but the departure of GWB.

I don't know what Obama will do. I'm on the wait and see before judging him. But i'm damn glad that the Bush era is over.

We have a conservative governement in Canada at the very moment, a governement that is doing well, that i respect and appreciate for the most parts. Yet, i'm still a moderate liberal at heart but that doesnt mean i always support the moderate liberal standpoint on all questions.

I hope my comments will be welcomed, georges. I'm not jumping on you at all: just discussing respectfully :thumbsup: