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boise state instead of ohio state
F*ck Boise State. Who the f*ck do they play every year? Nevada? Hawai'i? San Jose State? Yeah, REAL TOUGH schedule, there. When a team can bring anything less than its "A" game to as many as 10 games a season AND STILL HAVE A REASONABLE CHANCE OF WINNING THEM, then that proves that in the conference it plays in that team has no real competition. Boise State is going to get EXACTLY what it deserves - a "non-BCS" bowl for teams that don't play more than 1 or 2 decent teams every year, the way Boise State does.
 
F*ck Boise State. Who the f*ck do they play every year? Nevada? Hawai'i? San Jose State? Yeah, REAL TOUGH schedule, there. When a team can bring anything less than its "A" game to as many as 10 games a season AND STILL HAVE A REASONABLE CHANCE OF WINNING THEM, then that proves that in the conference it plays in that team has no real competition. Boise State is going to get EXACTLY what it deserves - a "non-BCS" bowl for teams that don't play more than 1 or 2 decent teams every year, the way Boise State does.

well, they did beat okla...when everyone thought okla was going to whoop them, right? i would give boise state the go ahead instead of ohio state
 
In fairness, I think the Buckeyes might have fared better against the Trojans earlier this year had Terrell Pryor had more experience going into that game, though I'm not sure even that would have been enough to get the Buckeyes a victory that night. But the final score might have been at least a little closer. I think USC's gonna pound Penn State in the Rose Bowl just as they have pounded all the other Big 11 teams they've played since Pete Carroll became their coach but I agree that Sanchez has his weaknesses and that might help keep the 2009 Rose Bowl closer than it really should be. Oklahoma scoring 60 or more points in an NCAA record 5 straight games IS impressive, but I think that Florida has the better all-around team and that's why I think that the Florida Gators will become national football champions for the second time since Urban Meyer became their coach. Not bad for a guy who was coaching Bowling Green less than a decade ago, wouldn't you say?

USC might be in the NC title game if the Pac10 were decent. I can't ever recall the Pac10 Conference being so weak all in all. The Pac10 took some lumps this year. Ohio State will have their oppty for revenge next season against SC. Pryor won't have Maulaluga chasing him down.

I don't know what to think about Penn State. They are solid in Defense. They can run the ball. But can they pass it? I don't know about the Rose. Something tells me it will be a close game this time.
 
No kidding! But I think the Florida Gators will win the BCS title game next month more comfortably than that.

should be a great game...everyone should be ok...havin for the gators...and number 7 for the sooners...and if bradford wins the heisman...we'll have...this year's heisman winner vs last year's hesiman winner...and the storyline of okla losing the last 4 bcs games...should be a good title game

USC might be in the NC title game if the Pac10 were decent. I can't ever recall the Pac10 Conference being so weak all in all. The Pac10 took some lumps this year. Ohio State will have their oppty for revenge next season against SC. Pryor won't have Maulaluga chasing him down.

I don't know what to think about Penn State. They are solid in Defense. They can run the ball. But can they pass it? I don't know about the Rose. Something tells me it will be a close game this time.

that year penn state took on florida state...the kickers were missing 30-40 yard fields...and great defenses...it could end up to be one of those games
 
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If Tebow stays it's a pretty dumb decision business wise. I'm sure in the off chance he gets permanently hurt playing football in college Florida isn't going to reimburse him the millions upon millions in potential missed income he would have made had he come out for the pros.

I have nothing personal against Tebow, and he is a good college quarterback, (Even if I don't think he will make it in the pros, and I hope the Bears don't draft him.) but he seems to get more hype and unfounded praise put on him than pretty much any collegiate athlete I can remember off the top of my head. Sometimes it's like they're talking about Chuck Norris out there leading the team.
 
well, they did beat okla...when everyone thought okla was going to whoop them, right? i would give boise state the go ahead instead of ohio state
Yeah, they did. But as I've posted before, if you remember that game Boise State pretty much dominated it for three quarters. Then Oklahoma woke up and COMPLETE ERASED their substantial deficit in less than one quarter. Boise State ended up winning that game in overtime, that is true, but by the end of the game it took some trick plays for them to beat the Sooners. Props to Boise State for winning that game, but I'll forever maintain that had the Sooners taken the Boise State Broncos seriously in that game from the beginning instead of waiting until the fourth quarter, I don't think think that Boise State would have stood much of a chance. Same thing with Boise State's win over the Oregon Ducks in Autzen this season. They got a BIG lead and then watched it mostly evaporate once the Oregon Ducks got serious. The Ducks (and this coming from someone who is NOT an Oregon Duck fan) damn near won that game - they only ran out of time at the end after digging themselves too big a hole at the beginning. Boise State is dominant in the freakin' WAC - no matter what anybody posts, I'll NEVER believe that they could be that dominant playing in a REAL football conference and having to play strong opposition EVERY WEEK and I'll remind you that Boise State lost to the Washington Huskies last year, a team that started 2 - 0 and then finished the season 4 - 9 and in LAST PLACE in the Pac-10.

that year penn state took on florida state...the kickers were missing 30-40 yard fields...and great defenses...it could end up to be one of those games
Maybe, but I doubt it. It takes a pretty special team (like the 2005 Longhorns with "Superman" Young) to "hang" with the USC Trojans in bowl games these days. Penn State is pretty good, but it's not quite that good. Penn State might "hang around" for a while against the Trojans, but in the end I think the Trojans will beat them down just as they've beaten down all of their other bowl opponents the last 6 years except for that extra-special Texas team.
 
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Yeah, they did. But as I've posted before, if you remember that game Boise State pretty much dominated it for three quarters. Then Oklahoma woke up and COMPLETE ERASED their substantial deficit in less than one quarter. Boise State ended up winning that game in overtime, that is true, but by the end of the game it took some trick plays for them to beat the Sooners. Props to Boise State for winning that game, but I'll forever maintain that had the Sooners taken the Boise State Broncos seriously in that game from the beginning instead of waiting until the fourth quarter, I don't think think that Boise State would have stood much of a chance. Same thing with Boise State's win over the Oregon Ducks in Autzen this season. They got a BIG lead and then watched it mostly evaporate once the Oregon Ducks got serious. The Ducks (and this coming from someone who is NOT an Oregon Duck fan) damn near won that game - they only ran out of time at the end after digging themselves too big a hole at the beginning. Boise State is dominant in the freakin' WAC - no matter what anybody posts, I'll NEVER believe that they could be that dominant playing in a REAL football conference and having to play strong opposition EVERY WEEK and I'll remind you that Boise State lost to the Washington Huskies last year, a team that started 2 - 0 and then finished the season 4 - 9 and in LAST PLACE in the Pac-10.

they are 12-0...they should get consideration into a bcs...it's hard to go unbeaten in your own conference...schedule does have a huge part to do with it...and it's not boise state's fault okla and the ducks didnt take them seriously...but they should get the nod over ohio state

Maybe, but I doubt it. It takes a pretty special team (like the 2005 Longhorns with "Superman" Young) to "hang" with the USC Trojans in bowl games these days. Penn State is pretty good, but it's not quite that good. Penn State might "hang around" for a while against the Trojans, but in the end I think the Trojans will beat them down just as they've beaten down all of their other bowl opponents the last 6 years except for that extra-special Texas team.

im just not expecting great things from the sc qb...he just has a great defense playing around him...if they were down like 10 or 14 in the 4th...could he lead them back? i highly doubt it
 
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Yeah, they did. But as I've posted before, if you remember that game Boise State pretty much dominated it for three quarters. Then Oklahoma woke up and COMPLETE ERASED their substantial deficit in less than one quarter. Boise State ended up winning that game in overtime, that is true, but by the end of the game it took some trick plays for them to beat the Sooners. Props to Boise State for winning that game, but I'll forever maintain that had the Sooners taken the Boise State Broncos seriously in that game from the beginning instead of waiting until the fourth quarter, I don't think think that Boise State would have stood much of a chance. Same thing with Boise State's win over the Oregon Ducks in Autzen this season. They got a BIG lead and then watched it mostly evaporate once the Oregon Ducks got serious. The Ducks (and this coming from someone who is NOT an Oregon Duck fan) damn near won that game - they only ran out of time at the end after digging themselves too big a hole at the beginning. Boise State is dominant in the freakin' WAC - no matter what anybody posts, I'll NEVER believe that they could be that dominant playing in a REAL football conference and having to play strong opposition EVERY WEEK and I'll remind you that Boise State lost to the Washington Huskies last year, a team that started 2 - 0 and then finished the season 4 - 9 and in LAST PLACE in the Pac-10.

I have a hard time believing any team with a coaching staff with more than one person with half a brain wouldn't take their opponent seriously in a situation like that or even any opponent in almost any game. I don't buy that excuse. At the very most I could only see something like that happening for maybe one drive before everybody woke up. Despite what most people believe situations like that happen for the same reason most others do in sports, and that's because of each teams relative skill level and some random chance. Maybe if they played a bunch of games the other team might have come out on top more often, but we will never know. It's a rare event indeed where one team just doesn’t try, especially in a game that important.
 
they are 12-0...they should get consideration into a bcs...it's hard to go unbeaten in your own conference...schedule does have a huge part to do with it...and it's not boise state's fault okla and the ducks didnt take them seriously...but they should get the nod over ohio state
I couldn't disagree with you more. Going unbeaten DOESN'T necessarily mean that a team will be able to beat any other team it faces (just ask Alabama). What it DOES mean is that a given team beat all of its foes that year, and THAT IS ALL. Where are all these people who suck Boise State's cock coming from? Jesus - they beat one, maybe two decent (not even very good or great, just decent) teams a year and there are these people who think they are invincible just because they beat a bunch of OTHER teams that are BARELY above "FCS" level. I just don't get it. Give the Broncos their due for winning all their games, but admit them to a BCS bowl just because they've feasted mostly upon a bunch of pansy teams all season? You people are nuts!!
 
I have a hard time believing any team with a coaching staff with more than one person with half a brain wouldn't take their opponent seriously in a situation like that or even any opponent in almost any game. I don't buy that excuse. At the very most I could only see something like that happening for maybe one drive before everybody woke up. Despite what most people believe situations like that happen for the same reason most others do in sports, and that's because of each teams relative skill level and some random chance. Maybe if they played a bunch of games the other team might have come out on top more often, but we will never know. It's a rare event indeed where one team just doesn’t try, especially in a game that important.

i agree...and when a team over looks another team...it goes on the coaches shoulders...cuz he should get them focused and all fired up esp, in a bcs bowl game...no excuses

I couldn't disagree with you more. Going unbeaten DOESN'T necessarily mean that a team will be able to beat any other team it faces (just ask Alabama). What it DOES mean is that a given team beat all of its foes that year, and THAT IS ALL. Where are all these people who suck Boise State's cock coming from? Jesus - they beat one, maybe two decent (not even very good or great, just decent) teams a year and there are these people who think they are invincible just because they beat a bunch of OTHER teams that are BARELY above "FCS" level. I just don't get it. Give the Broncos their due for winning all their games, but admit them to a BCS bowl just because they've feasted mostly upon a bunch of pansy teams all season? You people are nuts!!

give credit where credit is due...dont go disclaim boise state...they proved themselves...but that isnt going to happen ohio state is going to play texas...the end
 
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I have a hard time believing any team with a coaching staff with more than one person with half a brain wouldn't take their opponent seriously in a situation like that or even any opponent in almost any game. I don't buy that excuse. At the very most I could only see something like that happening for maybe one drive before everybody woke up. Despite what most people believe situations like that happen for the same reason most others do in sports, and that's because of each teams relative skill level and some random chance. Maybe if they played a bunch of games the other team might have come out on top more often, but we will never know. It's a rare event indeed where one team just doesn’t try, especially in a game that important.
Hey, it happens. No matter how hard you try you aren't going to be able to get a team "up" for a game every time it's scheduled to play one. You watch that Fiesta Bowl from a couple of years ago again and you tell me that Oklahoma was playing at 100% intensity that whole game. You won't honestly be able to because they weren't. I'm no Oklahoma Sooner fan, either, so don't try to say that I'm typing this stuff only because I live and breathe all things Sooner, 'cause I don't. If you don't want to believe that SOMETIMES teams come to games not fully prepared, mentally, then that's your choice. I KNOW it happens 'cause I've seen it, whether you or anybody else wants to believe that or not.
 
Hey, it happens. No matter how hard you try you aren't going to be able to get a team "up" for a game every time it's scheduled to play one. You watch that Fiesta Bowl from a couple of years ago again and you tell me that Oklahoma was playing at 100% intensity that whole game. You won't honestly be able to because they weren't. I'm no Oklahoma Sooner fan, either, so don't try to say that I'm typing this stuff only because I live and breathe all things Sooner, 'cause I don't. If you don't want to believe that SOMETIMES teams come to games not fully prepared, mentally, then that's your choice. I KNOW it happens 'cause I've seen it, whether you or anybody else wants to believe that or not.

you know, who it falls back on? the coaches...cuz he's the one that prepares those guys to go out there and perform...and no excuses...it wasnt just another game...it was a bcs game
 
i agree...and when a team over looks another team...it goes on the coaches shoulders...cuz he should get them focused and all fired up esp, in a bcs bowl game...no excuses
Bullshit. I've seen PLENTY of games coached by SOME OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL'S LEGENDS where their team simply wasn't ready to play that day. Pure and simple. It can happen to ANY team, ANY time - it's called "human nature." You're NEVER going to be able to get a team "up" to play EACH AND EVERY time it's scheduled to. You just aren't, whether you or anybody else wants to believe that or not.
 
Bullshit. I've seen PLENTY of games coached by SOME OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL'S LEGENDS where their team simply wasn't ready to play that day. Pure and simple. It can happen to ANY team, ANY time - it's called "human nature." You're NEVER going to be able to get a team "up" to play EACH AND EVERY time it's scheduled to. You just aren't, whether you or anybody else wants to believe that or not.

and again, it falls on the coaches shoulders...

Bullshit. I've seen PLENTY of games coached by SOME OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL'S LEGENDS where their team simply wasn't ready to play that day. Pure and simple. It can happen to ANY team, ANY time - it's called "human nature." You're NEVER going to be able to get a team "up" to play EACH AND EVERY time it's scheduled to. You just aren't, whether you or anybody else wants to believe that or not.

and plain and simple...if there not ready for that game...they didnt deserve to win and they weren't the better team that day...
 
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give credit where credit is due...dont go disclaim boise state...they proved themselves...but that isnt going to happen ohio state is going to play texas...the end
Whatever you say, Boise State Bronco dicklicker. I don't lick dicks, so...I wouldn't know what it's like for someone like you.

and again, it falls on the coaches shoulders...
And sometimes it doesn't work out. You're a fool if you think that a head coach is ALWAYS going to be able to get his team "up" for a game. That's all there is to it whether you want to believe that or not.

i agree...and when a team over looks another team...it goes on the coaches shoulders...cuz he should get them focused and all fired up esp, in a bcs bowl game...no excuses
STFU. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
 
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and again, it falls on the coaches shoulders...
Okay, so by that line of reasoning, ALL coaches are at least partial failures as far as you're concerned because I've seen games from teams coached by guys like Jim Tressel, Pete Carroll, Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, Mack Brown, Bob Stoops, and MANY OTHERS, where their team simply wasn't ready to play. Those are some of the head football coaches that are thought of as being the BEST in college football right now, and you're prepared to say that because they don't get their teams ready to play EACH and EVERY time their team is scheduled to that they're not really very good coaches? Is that what you're trying to say? 'Cause if you are then I'd say that you're coming off looking like a colossal fool, considering the overall amount of success all of those coaches have had over their storied careers. But, suit yourself.
 
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