ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Wait...RAGE is back together?!?!?! :wtf:
Marlo Manson
Hello Sexy girl how your Toes doing?
RATM would be my choice to protest against the ELEPHANTS!! the right wing arrogant assholes that spews so much 
its shameful!!
Somebody has too **** up these rich brainwashed herd of humans that think bush and his administration did a good job for the past 7 3/4 years
THE REPUBLICAN FUCKTARDS are so naive they actually want 4 more years of the same pathetic the elephants have constantly been serving us.
To add insult to the undeniable FAILURE OF EPIC proportions this ADMINISTRATION has been and turned out to be!! they didn't even accomplish the only reason bush started our ******* wars which was to **** or imprison OBL for 9/11!!
Of course we all know he LIED TO THE U.N TO INVOKE our right to defend ourselves (THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) against WMD's that turned out to be total and complete fabrication and he ***** Saddam in the name of his own agenda!!
its shameful!! Somebody has too **** up these rich brainwashed herd of humans that think bush and his administration did a good job for the past 7 3/4 years
THE REPUBLICAN FUCKTARDS are so naive they actually want 4 more years of the same pathetic
the elephants have constantly been serving us. To add insult to the undeniable FAILURE OF EPIC proportions this ADMINISTRATION has been and turned out to be!! they didn't even accomplish the only reason bush started our ******* wars which was to **** or imprison OBL for 9/11!!
Of course we all know he LIED TO THE U.N TO INVOKE our right to defend ourselves (THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) against WMD's that turned out to be total and complete fabrication and he ***** Saddam in the name of his own agenda!!
Last year they reunited I think
Marlo Manson
Hello Sexy girl how your Toes doing?
Ya know...
Some of those that burn crosses, are the same that hold office.
RaTM. Blessed are their souls. In any religion.
ZDLR quotes the words of Noam Chomsky who said quote
"if the same laws were applied to U.S. presidents as were applied to the Nazis after World War II [...] every single one of them, every last rich white one of them from Truman on, would have been hung to death and shot—and this current administration is no exception. They should be hung, and tried, and shot. As any war criminal should be." end quote
They speak the truth and I live by RATM's Ideology concerning our corrupt government!!
I've seen them live atleast 6 times that I have ticket stubs for, but I am pretty sure I have seen them 8 or 9 times live!! :bowdown: :hatsoff:
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protests are pointless, the people in power don't care what you think. If they did, then they wouldn't be doing the things that you are protesting about in the first place.
the only way to effect any change would be to not only muster the numbers (which they seem to be able to achieve, but only for ineffectual and useless effort), but to be willing to exert action at minimum equal to that that is being put forth against you. This puts activity at a stand-still, which is favorable to your cause. You may not achieve what you want, but that's OK because you weren't anyway, but you have also caused your opposition to not achieve what they want either, which is a reversal for them.
vocal protests are inefficient because they can never match the communication ability of the power structure which is favored by modern media technology. World-wide vocal protests against the Iraq war were the largest gathering of people toward a single cause in history, but it wasn't on TV, so most people didn't see it and so it had virtually no effect at influencing anyone else outside of the people that were already involved.
Strikes and boycotts can be effective at equalizing or even surpassing opposing action because industry and workers are in a reverse ratio compared to the action of media technology.
The power structure understands this situation, after all they wouldn't be able to maintain without effective action. They always try to equalize or escalate their efforts against opposition and that is why they are successful. To break up a protesters they send in the cops or the national guard to start using violent ***** against them. These protesters are ignorant, they are idealists that think their ideals can substitute for practical reality with no effort. It's not a matter of ******** being morally right or wrong, it's a matter of effective action in gaining results.
using ******** is simply a matter of practicality. In some cases people can use ******** effectively, and in some not. Ultimately ******** will not be useful against the power structure of the US because they posses more individuals that are willing to use effective action in the form of ******** and they posses weaponry that is at least equal or superior to what the civilian population could muster.
what it really boils down to is that group action can only be successful under narrow conditions. But individual action is almost always equal in ratio. Individual action is more flexible than group action, so it can be more effective.
I'm not going to give any specific circumstances, and I'm not saying that I justify the use of ******** or breaking the law. I'm just trying to demonstrate from a strategic viewpoint how mass vocal protest is a waste of time.
the only way to effect any change would be to not only muster the numbers (which they seem to be able to achieve, but only for ineffectual and useless effort), but to be willing to exert action at minimum equal to that that is being put forth against you. This puts activity at a stand-still, which is favorable to your cause. You may not achieve what you want, but that's OK because you weren't anyway, but you have also caused your opposition to not achieve what they want either, which is a reversal for them.
vocal protests are inefficient because they can never match the communication ability of the power structure which is favored by modern media technology. World-wide vocal protests against the Iraq war were the largest gathering of people toward a single cause in history, but it wasn't on TV, so most people didn't see it and so it had virtually no effect at influencing anyone else outside of the people that were already involved.
Strikes and boycotts can be effective at equalizing or even surpassing opposing action because industry and workers are in a reverse ratio compared to the action of media technology.
The power structure understands this situation, after all they wouldn't be able to maintain without effective action. They always try to equalize or escalate their efforts against opposition and that is why they are successful. To break up a protesters they send in the cops or the national guard to start using violent ***** against them. These protesters are ignorant, they are idealists that think their ideals can substitute for practical reality with no effort. It's not a matter of ******** being morally right or wrong, it's a matter of effective action in gaining results.
using ******** is simply a matter of practicality. In some cases people can use ******** effectively, and in some not. Ultimately ******** will not be useful against the power structure of the US because they posses more individuals that are willing to use effective action in the form of ******** and they posses weaponry that is at least equal or superior to what the civilian population could muster.
what it really boils down to is that group action can only be successful under narrow conditions. But individual action is almost always equal in ratio. Individual action is more flexible than group action, so it can be more effective.
I'm not going to give any specific circumstances, and I'm not saying that I justify the use of ******** or breaking the law. I'm just trying to demonstrate from a strategic viewpoint how mass vocal protest is a waste of time.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
:yesyes:
Plus, protesting something usually just ends up making your "cause" (and whoever chooses to support it) look stupid. That's just the reality of it.
"**** Bush before November to make a point? There's no better time than now, there's no better place than here.. here is something you cant understand, how I could JUST - - **** A BUSH! LIGHTS OUT! KILLBUSHY RADIO! turn that **** UP! bush has destroyed american dreams, bush has destroyed american dreams, bush has deSTROYED AMERICAN DREAMS!"
I think I have the majority of their concert tracks quoted, there.
so you're telling me that Obama or McCain has all the answers to this country's problems? or did you mean to wait another 4 years and then vote?
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Anarchy really so fearful a prospect, face?
I'm sure a great many, many people would adore the chance to truly start from a clean slate.
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umm . . . yeah ! Let's first attempt to get the nation solvent again (however, I'm sorta pessimistic that either mc"cane" or the "o - man" could help us), then maybe we could afford the luxury of mass infrastructural destruction . . and broken limb . . . :tongue:
"Clean Slate" as in the abolition of all laws and work from the Constitution of the United States of America ?
I could do that ! :yesyes: :glugglug:
No offense.. but for fucks' sake will you spell it McCAIN!?!?
::composure check::
::clears throat::
Yes, a complete return to nature. As in.. all electronic devices are scrambled, all buildings rendered useless, all laws gone, all government destroyed. A feudal society with plenty of opportunity to advance beyond what you put on an application.
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